On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:07:15 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:27:54 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:21:57 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:04:35 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:38:10 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Zwolan, everybody.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll leave it to the reader to draw from these words their own "mischaracterizations" of Mr. Zwolan...
> > > > > ===
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > Please do, here is official data:
> > > > Iraq War 2003
> > > > Monthly civilian deaths:
> > > > March.... 3977
> > > > April....... 3438
> > > and this is supposed to prove ... that I "misrepresentated" your views by ... quoting your words, namely:
> > > "Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > > My falsfiable argument on what your own words say about you - the same as before the deletion by you:
> > > Piotr's profile photo
> > > Piotr
> > > 12:08 PM (8 hours ago)
> > > to
> > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:27:17 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 4:42:51 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 5:41:48 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Uzytecznych idiotow Rosji nie sieja:
> > > > > > > - "moja sugestia ze wojska Rosji akceptuja wysokie straty wlasne bo chca redukowac ilosc zabitych cywilow "
> > > > > > > Zwolan
> > > > >
> > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen - meet "the useful idiot of Putin:
> > > > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > >
> > >
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > > "In response to "Piotr Trela"s mischaracterizations in both the Polish and English languages {he wrote about ...something else] "
> > >
> > > me: How exactly QUOTING somebody may be a "mischaracterization" of the AUTHOR of this QUOTE?
> > > All anybody needs to know about Edward Zwolan are the ... Edward Zwolan's WORDS on the Putin's army attitude toward the Ukrainian civilians:
> > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > >
> > > Everybody who watched the handiwork of that noble Russian Army in Bucha, Irpien , Kramatorsk, Mariupol - now knows something about what kind of person Edward Zwolan is. You are what you write.
> > > As for the reasons why he is what he is - I have offered my falsifiable argument. Mr Zwolan. just in case, deleted it . But what Zwolan cut out, I can paste back, so everybody could decide who if us too is right. In case of doubt - use the Occams razor:
> > > Edward Zwolan:
> > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > >
> > > me: " guess that's why they painted on the rocket aimed at the Kramatorsk train station with 1000s of civilians trying to flee the war : "Za detey" - "For the Children". And why they tortured and executed civilians in Bucha, Irpien, "filtration camps" in Mariupol, and many other towns and villages of Ukraine they have INVADED.
> > >
> > > Orwell is turning in his grave - the ministry of War calling itself the ministry of Peace, the invading army, calling themselves peacemakers,
> > > kills the very same women and children it came to ...save ("For the Children:) , and inept army good only in killing the civilians,
> > > claiming ... a noble sacrifice of its own soldiers just to save the civilians in the invaded country.
> > >
> > > That the people WITHIN the Big Brother's country are brainwashed into believing that - is to be expected. What is less obvious is: why would
> > > some OUTSIDE of Russia play along, those whom Lenin called "useful idiots". There are two types there:
> > >
> > > - ideological - those who are ideologically inclined to side with Russia - the right wing parties in Europe like National Front in France,
> > > AfD in Germany, Victor Orban in Hungary, Brexiters - as well as the extreme left who blames the West for everything (it is the West
> > > who forced Russia invade Ukraine).
> > >
> > > - psychological cases - the conspiracy theorists those who need it to validate their ego - they like to think
> > > of themselves as "fiercely independent minds": if everybody else got fooled by the Western propaganda
> > > but not them, then they are smarter than everybody else and then perhaps .... their lives are not as pathetic as they seem.
> > > Meet Eddie Zwolan, everyone."
> > >
> > > Edward Zwolan: calls the above "mischaracterizations" and ... deletes without showing a single example of the said mischaracterizations.
> > >
> > > And if somebody questioned whether this discussion alone is ENOUGH to argue that Mr Zwolan is here to validate his ego
> > > ('if everybody else got fooled by the Western propaganda but not him, he is smarter than everybody else and then perhaps .... his life are not as pathetic as it seems') this is far from the only case. Here is another example (from a rather long list):
> > >
> > > Edward Zwolan speaking up on "1,200 women were reportedly sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany, in most cases by men of non-European origin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany):
> > >
> > > - The prevailing view: sexual assault of women by gangs of men - bad.
> > > - Edward Zwolan's take:
> > > a) calling the sexually assaulted women: "depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises" ,
> > > "depraved German [women]",
> > >
> > > b) admiring the presumed sizes of the molesters penises and portraying them as "victims of depraved German whores":
> > > - "Virile randy Semites"
> > > - "victims of the depraved German whores "
> > > - "I am afraid that the Semites with long .... [ "colored phalluses" ] objectively are in the right!"
> > > - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia [Ed Zwolan's feminine
> > > Internet handle] says: "Hola!""
> > >
> > > Edward Zwolan, everybody.
> > In response to "Piotr Trela"s continued
> > mischaracterizations and insults, in both
> > the Polish and English languages, I am
> > providing some background information
> > about this individual (a future translated
> > version is upcoming), and a link to a recent
> > Polish article that may be of interest to his
> > readers.
> If QUOTING Edward Zwolan amounts to "mischaracterizations and insults"
> what does it say about the author of the quoted words?
> > 1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem
> > ideologicznych komunistow Jaskotow.
> By their own words you shall know them, not by the delusionary claims iof their opponents
> - for delusions: see for instance Edward Zwolan accusing me of working for the scerte police
> by using the (not-installed yet) antenna for satellite SST (Sea Surface Temperature) data
> to ... listen up on the .... stationary telephone calls by the Polish anti-Communist opposition.
>
> And this is Edward Zwolan IN HIS OWN words:
>
> - Edward Zwolan, after Bucha, Irpien, Kramators and Mariupol:
> "Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> - Edward Zwolan on "1,200 women reportedly sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany, in most cases by men of non-European origin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany):migrant men
>
> - "depraved German bitches",
> - "whores",
> - "German whores in search of colored penises" ,
> - "depraved German [women]",
> Edward Zwolan
>
> and admiring the presumed sizes of the molesters penises, and portraying the molesters
> as "victims of depraved German whores":
> - "Virile randy Semites"
> - "victims of the depraved German whores "
> - "I am afraid that the Semites with long .... [ "colored phalluses" ] objectively are in the right!"
> - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia [Ed Zwolan's feminine
> Internet handle] says: "Hola!""
> Edward Zwolan
> Edward Zwolan - every one.
>
> ===
> Piotr

To my knowledge, none of the suspects
of said 'sexual assaults' were charged
or convicted of any crimes by any German
courts (!), except for a few pick-pocketers
for petit thefts.

Why?

Because these actions were deemed
to be a result of at least partial contributory
provocative action by the women themselves,
if not completely staged and publicized
by the German anti-immigrant far-Right.

Mr. Piotr Trela, who is likely a former member
of the Polish Communist Secutrity
forces, SB (Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa),
possibly an active member of other
such agency, has been for years involved
in intensive 'oversight' of the Polish
newsgroup soc.culture.polish.

He has routinely engaged in various
textual manipulations and misquotations.
Citing words of various group members
completely out of their proper context
and propagating them in an effort to
of smear, discredit, and defame.

In response to "Piotr Trela"s continued
mischaracterizations and insults, in both
the Polish and English languages, I am
providing some background information
about this individual (a future translated
version is upcoming), and a link to a recent
Polish article that may be of interest to his
readers.

1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem
ideologicznych komunistow Jaskotow.

Piotr Trela:
“Pania Jaskot znalem jako 7-latek”

2. Kazimierz Jaskot, czlonek KC PZPR
byl rektorem Czerwonego Uniwersytetu
kompletnie spenetrowanego przez SB'ecje
gdzie donosicielstwo i szykany oraz wyrzucanie
ze studiow byly codziennoscia.

Koniec Szkoly Serwilizmu str.5
http://ksi.home.pl/archiwaprzelomu/obrazy/AP-24-1-3-1_46.pdf

Czasy Mocno Polityczne
https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ks-28-30.01.2011-2..jpg

3. Piotr byl prosperujacym pracownikiem tego
wlasnie SB'eckiego Uniwersytetu i znajdowal
zatrudnienie w Zakladzie Teledetekcji specjalizujacym
sie w przeroznych formach elektronicznego nasluchu.

Piotr Trela: Szczecin University, Zaklad Teledetekcji
http://www.ices.dk/sites/pub/Publication%20Reports/Marine%20Science%20Symposia/Phase%202/Rapport%20et%20Proces-Verbaux%20des%20Reunions%20-%20Volume%20188%20-%201989%20-%20Partie%2040%20de%2071.pdf

4. Gdy Piotr byl jeszcze studentem w Gdansku
jego wspol-lokatorzy w akademickim pokoju
wpadali w rece SB'ecji, pozniej skazywani byli
na wieloletnie wyroki wiezienia.

Piotr Trela:
“…mojego kolegi z ktorym mieszkalem w jednym pokoju w
akademiku i ktory dostal 3 lata za przewozenie paru ulotek (i odsiedzial z
tego 2 lata).

5. Piotr bral udzial w licznych protestach
i zadymach przeciwko komunie, min. w Gdansku,
ale w obliczu milicyjnych lapanek nie uciekal!
Gdzie inni ryzykowali zdrowiem a nawet zyciem
by nie zostac pojmanym przez ZOMO, Piotr
pozostawal w miejscu.

Piotr Trela:

“…mielismy nadzieje, ze ZOMO nie zatrzyma
pociagu by nas wygarnac...pociag zatrzymal sie po ujechaniu
50 metrow. ZOMO wbieglo na peron i czekalo. Zrobilo sie nieprzyjemnie.
Niektorzy z nas zawierzyli swoim nogom - otwierali awaryjne drzwi z
drugiej strony i pryskali na tory …postanowilem zostac w pociagu,”

6. Piotr klamie twierdzac ze nie widzial na oczy
Jaskota, Rektora uniwersytetu na ktorym
byl pracownikiem naukowym (Uniwersytet Szczecinski
liczyl wtedy niewiele ponad 50 osob lokalnego grona
pedagogicznego, wiekszosc wykladowcow byla
wowczas wizytujaca aby).

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PTDC0003.jpg

7. Piotr Trela nawet dzisiaj grozi swoim oponentom
donosicielstwem (patrz cytat grozba donosu
oraz pobicia, "skucia mordy," w wypadku powrotu
do Polski!)

Piotr Trela:
“I jesli...przyjada kiedys do Polski to niech uwazaja - …ten ze zdjecia…dowie sie co o nim wypisujecie, to wam morde skuje.”

8. Piotr nie chce udzielic odpowiedzi na proste
pytania z ktorymi nikt na emigranckiej grupie
spolecznosciowej nie ma najmniejszego problemu,
w tym kto rekomendowal Go na studia zagraniczne,
- przywoluje prawo przestepcow do nie-samo-inkryminacji.

9. Piotr w pierwszym swoim tekscie opublikowanym na
Zachodzie zawarl donos. Poinformowal kanadyjska
publike ze Komunisci w Polsce nie sa prawdziwymi
Marksistami-Leninistami.

Piotr Trela:
"I wanted to see a believing Marxist-Lenninist with
my own eyes. Spending 29 years in a Marxist Lenninist
country I hadn't met any... . I was anxious to see my
first live Marxist-Leninist.

Strona nr. 7
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10222/52077/dalhousiegazette_volume122_issue4_september_28_1989.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

10. Piotr w przeciagu 27 lat dzialalnosci na grupie
dyskusyjnej soc.culture.polish napisal tysiace
reply'ow ale samemu nie otworzyl wiecej nizeli
kilkudziesieciu wlasnych watkow. Wiekszosc
dopiero wtedy gdy zostalo to zauwazone w
2016 roku, i zostala mu zwrocona uwaga.
Donosiciel, jego przelozeni, nie sa zainteresowani
przekazywaniem wlasnych opinii a gromadzeniem
cudzych.

11. Piotr od lat ulatwia prace donosicielom
ograniczajac swobode wypowiedzi w internecie;
pietnujac anonimowosc oraz domagajac sie by
wszyscy Internauci podpisywali sie swoimi
prawdziwymi imionami i nazwiskami.

12. Gdy Trybunał Praw Człowieka w Strasburgu
orzekł że Grzegorz Braun mial prawo nazwac
profesora Miodka SB'ekiem, Piotr Trela usilowal
ograniczyc swobode wypowiedzi Brauna argumentujac
ze uczciwy system to taki w ktorym "lepiej by
winny uszedl karze niz zeby niewinnego skrzywdzic."

Piotr zaczal bronic systemu prawnego ktory nie
wymierzyl sprawiedliwosci ani jednemu z SB’eckich
oprawcow zapominajac ze Braun nie domagal sie
kary dla SB'eka tylko swobody wypowiedzi dla siebie.

13. Piotr w swoim nowym miejscu zamieszkania
szybko dal sie poznac jako proponent internetowej
cenzury, nazywajac idiotami Nowofundlandczykow
uskarzajacych sie na cenzure w netcie.

14. Piotr zapytany na soc.culture.polish o
dokladna date swojego wyjazdu z PRL’u do
Kanada- w okresie rzadow Rakowieckiego
i Kiszczaka czy tez pozniej gdy uzyskanie
paszportu nie bylo powiazane z probami
werbunku do wspolpracy ze Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa,
odpowiada milczeniem oraz natychmiastowym
i bezpowrotnym zerwaniem wieloletniego
kolezenstwa z pytajacym go p. Andrzejem Strakiem.

Czy Piotr byl SB'eckim donosicielem tego niewiem,
wiem tylko ze na Jaskotowym Uniwersytecie,
i nie tylko, byli tacy! Gdy zas komuna padala w 1989r
istniala czy tez mogla byc postrzegana grozba
ze donosiciele moga zostac zdemaskowani
i ukarani.

Z pewnoscia wladze uniwerku (SB'ecja, kapitan
Cholewa, pro-rektor Homa, Rektor Jaskot) czynili
kroki by zapewnic donosicielom nalezyte
bezpieczenstwo, odwrot, alibi, czy ewakuacje.

Piotr wlasnie w tym okresie czasu i jako pracownik
uniwerstytetu (!) z wiza studencka w PRL'owskim
paszporcie wyjezdza na szkolenia doktoranckie
do Kanada. Dzisiaj panikuje pytany o szczegoly
swojego wyjazdu.

Ubecka metodyka dyskusji Piotra do wgladu
w archiwach Google'a. Kazdy moze sobie wyrobic
opinie z kim/czym ma do czynienia."

A tutaj fotka:

https://i0.wp.com/gazette.mun.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/biology.jpg
From left are project team members Drs. "Piotr Trela", "Sally Goddard", "Margaret Caldwell" and "Jane Costello". (Absent: Dr. "Anna Rissanen")

Science in Poland PAP

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

New regulations on lustration at universities. "They may concern even several thousand people"

The new regulations on lustration at universities may be felt by even several thousand people who cooperated with the security services during the Polish People's Republic - Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller said in an interview with PAP. In his opinion, universities need decommunization.

The Law on Higher Education and Science (Constitution for Science, Law 2.0), in force since October 1, 2018, provides for changes to the provisions on vetting at universities. Pursuant to the Act, a person who "did not work from July 22, 1944 to July 31, 1990, may become a member of the university council, a member of the university senate, a member of the Science Evaluation Committee, the Scientific Excellence Council, the Polish Accreditation Committee, or a titular professor" and did not serve in state security agencies (...) and did not cooperate with these authorities ”.

"Decommunization" at universities

Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller in an interview with PAP called these provisions "decommunizing". When asked whether decommunization is still needed at universities, he replied: "Without a doubt." He assessed that the introduction of new regulations "may be a stage of a delayed, but still settlement of, issues related to the functioning of the People's Republic of Poland".

When asked how many people the new regulations will make their academic career difficult, Piotr Müller commented: “We do not have such data, because we do not have a way to collect it. But I think it could even affect several thousand people in the country. " - The latest research by the Institute of National Remembrance shows that the environments at universities were very infiltrated and there were many people there who were secret collaborators - said the deputy minister.

The provisions related to vetting are to prevent the performance of important functions in higher education not only by lustration liars, but in general all persons who collaborated with the SB or were functionaries of these services. Persons applying for the positions listed in the Act will have to submit a lustration declaration. - If someone in such a statement writes that he was a secret SB officer, he will not be able to perform these important functions - said the deputy minister. And he added that if someone makes a false statement, they will be breaking the law.

He recalled that so far only a small group of people who applied for managerial positions were obliged to submit lustration declarations at universities. - There was not even awareness of the content of this lustration declaration - he assessed. According to him, the new regulations will result in the fact that people who cooperated with the SB will not want to perform managerial functions at all.

Not too late?

When asked if it made sense to introduce such legislation only now, he said yes. He calculated: - Suppose that in 1989 someone was 30 years old, had already made a career at the university and was an informer. Today, such a person is 59 years old. He still has many years of work at the university ahead of him. And people of that age often play a significant role in higher education, 'he said.

The deputy minister pointed out that the new lustration provisions did not apply to members of the Polish Academy of Sciences or management positions at the academy, because the Act does not cover the Polish Academy of Sciences. - Here, unfortunately, these new regulations do not apply. I say it with sadness - the interlocutor commented.

The provisions on the vetting of candidates for professors will enter into force on April 30, 2019. And the provisions on the vetting of candidates for managerial positions and newly elected members of university governing bodies have been in force since October this year.

Source: Science in Poland PAP

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html