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Re: Dziadek Biden idzie na wojne z Rosja?

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Subject: Re: Dziadek Biden idzie na wojne z Rosja?
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 by: a a - Mon, 2 May 2022 00:30 UTC

On Monday, 2 May 2022 at 01:34:22 UTC+2, Piotr wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:18:26 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:07:15 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:27:54 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:21:57 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:04:35 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:38:10 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Edward Zwolan, everybody.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll leave it to the reader to draw from these words their own "mischaracterizations" of Mr. Zwolan...
> > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > > Piotr
> > > > > > Please do, here is official data:
> > > > > > Iraq War 2003
> > > > > > Monthly civilian deaths:
> > > > > > March.... 3977
> > > > > > April....... 3438
> > > > > and this is supposed to prove ... that I "misrepresentated" your views by ... quoting your words, namely:
> > > > > "Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > > > Edward Zwolan
> > > > > My falsfiable argument on what your own words say about you - the same as before the deletion by you:
> > > > > Piotr's profile photo
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > > 12:08 PM (8 hours ago)
> > > > > to
> > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:27:17 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 4:42:51 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 5:41:48 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Uzytecznych idiotow Rosji nie sieja:
> > > > > > > > > - "moja sugestia ze wojska Rosji akceptuja wysokie straty wlasne bo chca redukowac ilosc zabitych cywilow "
> > > > > > > > > Zwolan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen - meet "the useful idiot of Putin:
> > > > > > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Zwolan
> > > > > "In response to "Piotr Trela"s mischaracterizations in both the Polish and English languages {he wrote about ...something else] "
> > > > >
> > > > > me: How exactly QUOTING somebody may be a "mischaracterization" of the AUTHOR of this QUOTE?
> > > > > All anybody needs to know about Edward Zwolan are the ... Edward Zwolan's WORDS on the Putin's army attitude toward the Ukrainian civilians:
> > > > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > > > Edward Zwolan
> > > > >
> > > > > Everybody who watched the handiwork of that noble Russian Army in Bucha, Irpien , Kramatorsk, Mariupol - now knows something about what kind of person Edward Zwolan is. You are what you write.
> > > > > As for the reasons why he is what he is - I have offered my falsifiable argument. Mr Zwolan. just in case, deleted it . But what Zwolan cut out, I can paste back, so everybody could decide who if us too is right. In case of doubt - use the Occams razor:
> > > > > Edward Zwolan:
> > > > > " Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > > >
> > > > > me: " guess that's why they painted on the rocket aimed at the Kramatorsk train station with 1000s of civilians trying to flee the war : "Za detey" - "For the Children". And why they tortured and executed civilians in Bucha, Irpien, "filtration camps" in Mariupol, and many other towns and villages of Ukraine they have INVADED.
> > > > >
> > > > > Orwell is turning in his grave - the ministry of War calling itself the ministry of Peace, the invading army, calling themselves peacemakers,
> > > > > kills the very same women and children it came to ...save ("For the Children:) , and inept army good only in killing the civilians,
> > > > > claiming ... a noble sacrifice of its own soldiers just to save the civilians in the invaded country.
> > > > >
> > > > > That the people WITHIN the Big Brother's country are brainwashed into believing that - is to be expected. What is less obvious is: why would
> > > > > some OUTSIDE of Russia play along, those whom Lenin called "useful idiots". There are two types there:
> > > > >
> > > > > - ideological - those who are ideologically inclined to side with Russia - the right wing parties in Europe like National Front in France,
> > > > > AfD in Germany, Victor Orban in Hungary, Brexiters - as well as the extreme left who blames the West for everything (it is the West
> > > > > who forced Russia invade Ukraine).
> > > > >
> > > > > - psychological cases - the conspiracy theorists those who need it to validate their ego - they like to think
> > > > > of themselves as "fiercely independent minds": if everybody else got fooled by the Western propaganda
> > > > > but not them, then they are smarter than everybody else and then perhaps .... their lives are not as pathetic as they seem.
> > > > > Meet Eddie Zwolan, everyone."
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Zwolan: calls the above "mischaracterizations" and ... deletes without showing a single example of the said mischaracterizations.
> > > > >
> > > > > And if somebody questioned whether this discussion alone is ENOUGH to argue that Mr Zwolan is here to validate his ego
> > > > > ('if everybody else got fooled by the Western propaganda but not him, he is smarter than everybody else and then perhaps .... his life are not as pathetic as it seems') this is far from the only case. Here is another example (from a rather long list):
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Zwolan speaking up on "1,200 women were reportedly sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany, in most cases by men of non-European origin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany):
> > > > >
> > > > > - The prevailing view: sexual assault of women by gangs of men - bad.
> > > > > - Edward Zwolan's take:
> > > > > a) calling the sexually assaulted women: "depraved German bitches", "whores", "German whores in search of colored penises" ,
> > > > > "depraved German [women]",
> > > > >
> > > > > b) admiring the presumed sizes of the molesters penises and portraying them as "victims of depraved German whores":
> > > > > - "Virile randy Semites"
> > > > > - "victims of the depraved German whores "
> > > > > - "I am afraid that the Semites with long .... [ "colored phalluses" ] objectively are in the right!"
> > > > > - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia [Ed Zwolan's feminine
> > > > > Internet handle] says: "Hola!""
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Zwolan, everybody.
> > > > In response to "Piotr Trela"s continued
> > > > mischaracterizations and insults, in both
> > > > the Polish and English languages, I am
> > > > providing some background information
> > > > about this individual (a future translated
> > > > version is upcoming), and a link to a recent
> > > > Polish article that may be of interest to his
> > > > readers.
> > > If QUOTING Edward Zwolan amounts to "mischaracterizations and insults"
> > > what does it say about the author of the quoted words?
> > > > 1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem
> > > > ideologicznych komunistow Jaskotow.
> > > By their own words you shall know them, not by the delusionary claims iof their opponents
> > > - for delusions: see for instance Edward Zwolan accusing me of working for the scerte police
> > > by using the (not-installed yet) antenna for satellite SST (Sea Surface Temperature) data
> > > to ... listen up on the .... stationary telephone calls by the Polish anti-Communist opposition.
> > >
> > > And this is Edward Zwolan IN HIS OWN words:
> > >
> > > - Edward Zwolan, after Bucha, Irpien, Kramators and Mariupol:
> > > "Russian Army is willing to accept very high own loses just to spare the lives of [Ukrainian] civilians"
> > > - Edward Zwolan on "1,200 women reportedly sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany, in most cases by men of non-European origin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany):migrant men
> > >
> > > - "depraved German bitches",
> > > - "whores",
> > > - "German whores in search of colored penises" ,
> > > - "depraved German [women]",
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > >
> > > and admiring the presumed sizes of the molesters penises, and portraying the molesters
> > > as "victims of depraved German whores":
> > > - "Virile randy Semites"
> > > - "victims of the depraved German whores "
> > > - "I am afraid that the Semites with long .... [ "colored phalluses" ] objectively are in the right!"
> > > - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them. But Basia [Ed Zwolan's feminine
> > > Internet handle] says: "Hola!""
> > > Edward Zwolan
> > > Edward Zwolan - every one.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Piotr
> > To my knowledge, none of the suspects
> > of said 'sexual assaults' were charged
> > or convicted of any crimes by any German
> > courts (!)
> From the link in the post YOUR ARE COMMENTING
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany):
>
> " By April 2016, statistics recorded by authorities indicated that out of the identified 153 suspects in Cologne who were convicted of sexual offenses and other crimes during New Year's Eve 2015–16"
> And that's from ONLY one city (Cologne).
>
> Edward Zwolan: "to my knowledge, none of the suspects of said 'sexual assaults' were charged or convicted of any crimes by any German courts (!)"
>
> And based on WHAT SOURCES have you, Mr. Zwolan, established that the ("1,200 women reportedly sexually assaulted during the 2015–16 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany") were:
> - "depraved German bitches",
> - "whores",
> - "German whores in search of colored penises" ,
> - "depraved German [women]",
> Edward Zwolan
> On WHAT SOURCES have you based your above claims, Mr. Zwolan ?
>
> And HOW HAVE YOU KNOWN that those accused of sexually assaulting them, were, to QUOTE your own words:
> "virile randy Semites" and "victims of depraved German whores " ?
>
> And on WHAT SOURCES have you established their ... virilty and the length of their penises????
> You know:
> - "virile randy Semites"
> Edward Zwolan
>
> - " the Semites with long .... [ "colored phalluses" ] objectively are in the right!"
> Edward Zwolan
> - "nothing but negativity toward these virile Semites, the public prejudiced against them.
> But Basia [Ed Zwolan's feminine Internet handle] says: "Hola!""
> Edward Zwolan. scp.
>
> By their own words you shall know them. Edward Zwolan - everybody.
> ===
> Piotr
@Pacanów stosuje od 100 lat agendę Debaty Oxfordzkiej na usenecie
poniżając sztukę retoryki
gdyż udoskonalił debatę oxfordzką o 2 elementy:

1. celowe obrażanie
bądź

2. celowe wyśmiewanie mówców strony przeciwnej.

za co uniwersytet oxfordzki powinien mu nadać tytuł twórcy
Debaty @TrollazPacanowa

Pełni funkcję nauczyciela akademickiego w [prowincjonalnej szkole, nie naukowca, nie badacza

A jedyny jego dorobek naukowy to obrona tezy, że

1.Klimat to nie pogoda

2. Pogoda to nie klimat

Czego się nauczy na usenecie, wdraża w szkole i męczy biednych studentów, nieprzygotowanych i nie zaprawionych w bojach z @TrollemzPacanowa
a i ci biedacy się skarżą, bo nie znają polskiego

Status nauczyciela akademicckiego jest jak status nauczyciela, czyli
ma uczyć, nauczać i nie pyskować
i co roku wal;czycc o przedłużenie kontraktu., bo młodzi ustawiają się w kolejce.

Czyli jego spory, wyśmiewanie się z innych to opis jego codziennych problemów z pracy,
gdzie ma duże problemy

Problemem @TrollazPacanowa jest niskie mniemanie o sobie, niska samoocena.
Zatem to nie jest paranoja, ale schizy.

@TrollzPacanowa nie tworzy wlasnych wątków, tematów, bo to jest intelektualnie kosztowne o wymaga przygotowania, oraaz wiedzy,
dlatego ogranicza się do zwalczania cudzych tematów, tez, atakując, bo to kosztuje niewiele.

Czyli on prowadzi Debaty @TrollazPacanowa

obrażając, wyśmiewając innych, których traktuje jak przeciwników, zagrażających jego pracy,
gdyż uznaje ich za lepszych siebie.

=====https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debata_oksfordzka#Przebieg_debaty

Debata oksfordzka
Przejdź do nawigacji
Przejdź do wyszukiwania
Debata oksfordzka w brytyjskim parlamencie
Głosowanie przez podniesienie ręki

Debata oksfordzka (debata uniwersytecka) – rodzaj debaty, w której zdecydowanie zabronione jest obrażanie bądź wyśmiewanie mówców strony przeciwnej. Zadaniem debaty jest dyskusja nad tezą[1]. Debatują przeciwnicy tezy oraz jej obrońcy[1][2].. Przewodniczy im marszałek, który ma do pomocy sekretarza czuwającego nad czasem i kolejnością wypowiedzi. Typ debaty pochodzi z Uniwersytetu Oksfordzkiego[3].
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