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Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 15:22:22 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: andal - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:22 UTC

On Sun, 1 May 2022 16:34:21 -0700 (PDT), Piotr wrote:

> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:18:26 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:

wklejam wszysko co nozyce piotrowe wyciely:

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To my knowledge, none of the suspects of said 'sexual assaults' were
charged or convicted of any crimes by any German courts (!), except for a
few pick-pocketers for petit thefts.

Why?

Because these actions were deemed to be a result of at least partial
contributory provocative action by the women themselves,
if not completely staged and publicized by the German anti-immigrant
far-Right.

Mr. Piotr Trela, who is likely a former member of the Polish Communist
Secutrity forces, SB (Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa),
possibly an active member of other such agency, has been for years
involved in intensive 'oversight' of the Polish newsgroup
soc.culture.polish.

He has routinely engaged in various textual manipulations and
misquotations.
Citing words of various group members completely out of their proper
context and propagating them in an effort to of smear, discredit, and
defame.

In response to "Piotr Trela"s continued mischaracterizations and insults,
in both the Polish and English languages, I am providing some background
information about this individual (a future translated version is
upcoming), and a link to a recent Polish article that may be of interest
to his readers.

1. Piotr od malego dziecka byl wychowankiem ideologicznych komunistow
Jaskotow.

Piotr Trela:
“Pania Jaskot znalem jako 7-latek”

2. Kazimierz Jaskot, czlonek KC PZPR byl rektorem Czerwonego Uniwersytetu
kompletnie spenetrowanego przez SB'ecje gdzie donosicielstwo i szykany
oraz wyrzucanie ze studiow byly codziennoscia.

Koniec Szkoly Serwilizmu str.5
http://ksi.home.pl/archiwaprzelomu/obrazy/AP-24-1-3-1_46.pdf

Czasy Mocno Polityczne
https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/
ks-28-30.01.2011-2.jpg

3. Piotr byl prosperujacym pracownikiem tego wlasnie SB'eckiego
Uniwersytetu i znajdowal zatrudnienie w Zakladzie Teledetekcji
specjalizujacym sie w przeroznych formach elektronicznego nasluchu.

Piotr Trela: Szczecin University, Zaklad Teledetekcji
http://www.ices.dk/sites/pub/Publication%20Reports/
Marine%20Science%20Symposia/Phase%202/Rapport%20et%20Proces-
Verbaux%20des%20Reunions%20-%20Volume%20188%20-%201989%20-
%20Partie%2040%20de%2071.pdf

4. Gdy Piotr byl jeszcze studentem w Gdansku jego wspol-lokatorzy w
akademickim pokoju wpadali w rece SB'ecji, pozniej skazywani byli na
wieloletnie wyroki wiezienia.

Piotr Trela:
“…mojego kolegi z ktorym mieszkalem w jednym pokoju w akademiku i ktory
dostal 3 lata za przewozenie paru ulotek (i odsiedzial z tego 2 lata).

5. Piotr bral udzial w licznych protestach i zadymach przeciwko komunie,
min. w Gdansku,
ale w obliczu milicyjnych lapanek nie uciekal!
Gdzie inni ryzykowali zdrowiem a nawet zyciem by nie zostac pojmanym przez
ZOMO, Piotr pozostawal w miejscu.

Piotr Trela:

“…mielismy nadzieje, ze ZOMO nie zatrzyma pociagu by nas wygarnac...pociag
zatrzymal sie po ujechaniu 50 metrow. ZOMO wbieglo na peron i czekalo.
Zrobilo sie nieprzyjemnie.
Niektorzy z nas zawierzyli swoim nogom - otwierali awaryjne drzwi z
drugiej strony i pryskali na tory …postanowilem zostac w pociagu,”

6. Piotr klamie twierdzac ze nie widzial na oczy Jaskota, Rektora
uniwersytetu na ktorym byl pracownikiem naukowym (Uniwersytet Szczecinski
liczyl wtedy niewiele ponad 50 osob lokalnego grona pedagogicznego,
wiekszosc wykladowcow byla wowczas wizytujaca aby).

https://historiaus.usz.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PTDC0003.jpg

7. Piotr Trela nawet dzisiaj grozi swoim oponentom donosicielstwem (patrz
cytat grozba donosu oraz pobicia, "skucia mordy," w wypadku powrotu do
Polski!)

Piotr Trela:
“I jesli...przyjada kiedys do Polski to niech uwazaja - …ten ze
zdjecia…dowie sie co o nim wypisujecie, to wam morde skuje.”

8. Piotr nie chce udzielic odpowiedzi na proste pytania z ktorymi nikt na
emigranckiej grupie spolecznosciowej nie ma najmniejszego problemu,
w tym kto rekomendowal Go na studia zagraniczne,
- przywoluje prawo przestepcow do nie-samo-inkryminacji.

9. Piotr w pierwszym swoim tekscie opublikowanym na Zachodzie zawarl
donos. Poinformowal kanadyjska publike ze Komunisci w Polsce nie sa
prawdziwymi Marksistami-Leninistami.

Piotr Trela:
"I wanted to see a believing Marxist-Lenninist with my own eyes. Spending
29 years in a Marxist Lenninist country I hadn't met any... . I was
anxious to see my first live Marxist-Leninist.

Strona nr. 7
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10222/52077/
dalhousiegazette_volume122_issue4_september_28_1989.pdf?
sequence=1&isAllowed=y

10. Piotr w przeciagu 27 lat dzialalnosci na grupie dyskusyjnej
soc.culture.polish napisal tysiace reply'ow ale samemu nie otworzyl wiecej
nizeli kilkudziesieciu wlasnych watkow. Wiekszosc dopiero wtedy gdy
zostalo to zauwazone w 2016 roku, i zostala mu zwrocona uwaga.
Donosiciel, jego przelozeni, nie sa zainteresowani przekazywaniem wlasnych
opinii a gromadzeniem cudzych.

11. Piotr od lat ulatwia prace donosicielom ograniczajac swobode
wypowiedzi w internecie;
pietnujac anonimowosc oraz domagajac sie by wszyscy Internauci podpisywali
sie swoimi prawdziwymi imionami i nazwiskami.

12. Gdy Trybunał Praw Człowieka w Strasburgu orzekł że Grzegorz Braun mial
prawo nazwac profesora Miodka SB'ekiem, Piotr Trela usilowal ograniczyc
swobode wypowiedzi Brauna argumentujac ze uczciwy system to taki w ktorym
"lepiej by winny uszedl karze niz zeby niewinnego skrzywdzic."

Piotr zaczal bronic systemu prawnego ktory nie wymierzyl sprawiedliwosci
ani jednemu z SB’eckich oprawcow zapominajac ze Braun nie domagal sie kary
dla SB'eka tylko swobody wypowiedzi dla siebie.

13. Piotr w swoim nowym miejscu zamieszkania szybko dal sie poznac jako
proponent internetowej cenzury, nazywajac idiotami Nowofundlandczykow
uskarzajacych sie na cenzure w netcie.

14. Piotr zapytany na soc.culture.polish o dokladna date swojego wyjazdu z
PRL’u do Kanada- w okresie rzadow Rakowieckiego i Kiszczaka czy tez
pozniej gdy uzyskanie paszportu nie bylo powiazane z probami werbunku do
wspolpracy ze Sluzba Bezpieczenstwa,
odpowiada milczeniem oraz natychmiastowym i bezpowrotnym zerwaniem
wieloletniego kolezenstwa z pytajacym go p. Andrzejem Strakiem.

Czy Piotr byl SB'eckim donosicielem tego niewiem,
wiem tylko ze na Jaskotowym Uniwersytecie,
i nie tylko, byli tacy! Gdy zas komuna padala w 1989r istniala czy tez
mogla byc postrzegana grozba ze donosiciele moga zostac zdemaskowani i
ukarani.

Z pewnoscia wladze uniwerku (SB'ecja, kapitan Cholewa, pro-rektor Homa,
Rektor Jaskot) czynili kroki by zapewnic donosicielom nalezyte
bezpieczenstwo, odwrot, alibi, czy ewakuacje.

Piotr wlasnie w tym okresie czasu i jako pracownik uniwerstytetu (!) z
wiza studencka w PRL'owskim paszporcie wyjezdza na szkolenia doktoranckie
do Kanada. Dzisiaj panikuje pytany o szczegoly swojego wyjazdu.

Ubecka metodyka dyskusji Piotra do wgladu w archiwach Google'a. Kazdy moze
sobie wyrobic opinie z kim/czym ma do czynienia."

A tutaj fotka:

https://i0.wp.com/gazette.mun.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/biology.jpg
From left are project team members Drs. "Piotr Trela", "Sally Goddard",
"Margaret Caldwell" and "Jane Costello". (Absent: Dr. "Anna Rissanen")

Science in Poland PAP

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-
uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

New regulations on lustration at universities. "They may concern even
several thousand people"

The new regulations on lustration at universities may be felt by even
several thousand people who cooperated with the security services during
the Polish People's Republic - Deputy Minister of Science and Higher
Education Piotr Müller said in an interview with PAP. In his opinion,
universities need decommunization.

The Law on Higher Education and Science (Constitution for Science, Law
2.0), in force since October 1, 2018, provides for changes to the
provisions on vetting at universities. Pursuant to the Act, a person who
"did not work from July 22, 1944 to July 31, 1990, may become a member of
the university council, a member of the university senate, a member of the
Science Evaluation Committee, the Scientific Excellence Council, the
Polish Accreditation Committee, or a titular professor" and did not serve
in state security agencies (...) and did not cooperate with these
authorities ”.

"Decommunization" at universities

Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller in an
interview with PAP called these provisions "decommunizing". When asked
whether decommunization is still needed at universities, he replied:
"Without a doubt." He assessed that the introduction of new regulations
"may be a stage of a delayed, but still settlement of, issues related to
the functioning of the People's Republic of Poland".

When asked how many people the new regulations will make their academic
career difficult, Piotr Müller commented: “We do not have such data,
because we do not have a way to collect it. But I think it could even
affect several thousand people in the country. " - The latest research by
the Institute of National Remembrance shows that the environments at
universities were very infiltrated and there were many people there who
were secret collaborators - said the deputy minister.

The provisions related to vetting are to prevent the performance of
important functions in higher education not only by lustration liars, but
in general all persons who collaborated with the SB or were functionaries
of these services. Persons applying for the positions listed in the Act
will have to submit a lustration declaration. - If someone in such a
statement writes that he was a secret SB officer, he will not be able to
perform these important functions - said the deputy minister. And he added
that if someone makes a false statement, they will be breaking the law.

He recalled that so far only a small group of people who applied for
managerial positions were obliged to submit lustration declarations at
universities. - There was not even awareness of the content of this
lustration declaration - he assessed. According to him, the new
regulations will result in the fact that people who cooperated with the SB
will not want to perform managerial functions at all.

Not too late?

When asked if it made sense to introduce such legislation only now, he
said yes. He calculated: - Suppose that in 1989 someone was 30 years old,
had already made a career at the university and was an informer. Today,
such a person is 59 years old. He still has many years of work at the
university ahead of him. And people of that age often play a significant
role in higher education, 'he said.

The deputy minister pointed out that the new lustration provisions did not
apply to members of the Polish Academy of Sciences or management positions
at the academy, because the Act does not cover the Polish Academy of
Sciences. - Here, unfortunately, these new regulations do not apply. I say
it with sadness - the interlocutor commented.

The provisions on the vetting of candidates for professors will enter into
force on April 30, 2019. And the provisions on the vetting of candidates
for managerial positions and newly elected members of university governing
bodies have been in force since October this year.

Source: Science in Poland PAP

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-
uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

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