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> SECOND AMENDMENT
> LA man who defended home from armed intruders faces uphill battle to
> get gun permit back
> California law enforcement agencies have broad discretion to revoke
> gun-carry licenses
> By Michael Lee Fox News
> Published November 24, 2023 4:00am EST
>
> Los Angeles homeowner gets into frightening front door shootout with
> would-be intruders
> A Los Angeles homeowner was ambushed by two armed suspects who were
> allegedly trying to break into his home, the man told Fox News
> Digital. (Credit: Vince Ricci)
>
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> A Los Angeles homeowner who had his concealed carry weapon (CCW)
> license revoked after using a gun to fend off armed attackers at his
> home may have little recourse to get his permit back.
>
> "In their terms and conditions agreement, LASD (Los Angeles County
> Sheriff's Department) grants itself virtually limitless and unchecked
> discretion to revoke a constitutional right over just about anything
> at any time," Amy Swearer, a senior legal fellow at the Heritage
> Foundation, told Fox News Digital.
>
> At issue is the case of L.A. resident and married father of one Vince
> Ricci, who earlier this month was forced into a gunfight when two
> armed men jumped the fence of his gated community and attempted to
> force their way into his front door. Ricci – concerned for the
> safety of his wife, 5-month-old daughter and the family’s nanny –
> fought back, first with a hot cup of tea he was holding in his hand
> when the attack began, then by pulling out his gun and getting into a
> firefight with the intruders in his driveway.
>
> Surveillance footage captured the dramatic scene unfolding, showing
> the intruders retreating from Ricci's gunfire, with one hopping back
> over the fence and another running around a car in the driveway.
>
> ARMED HOMEOWNER WHO DEFENDED FAMILY IN DRIVEWAY SHOOT-OUT SAYS HE'S
> BEEN STRIPPED OF GUN PERMIT
>
> Vince Ricci in Yankees cap holding gun
> Vince Ricci at the shooting range, pointing a handgun. (NRA )
>
> But Ricci told Fox News Digital last week that the response to the
> harrowing incident has been for authorities to target him, calling him
> to inform him that his concealed carry license had been "revoked" as a
> result of him "yelling" at Los Angeles police officers while they
> attempted to investigate the incident three days later.
>
> "After successfully defending my home and my family and my 5-month-old
> child, California has now decided to suspend my Second Amendment
> [rights]," Ricci said in an NRA video that was shared with Fox News
> Digital.
>
> Reached for comment by Fox News Digital, an LASD spokesperson said the
> agency recognizes the ordeal was "extremely traumatic and startling
> for the Ricci family" and that they hoped "the individuals responsible
> for this crime are arrested and held accountable."
>
> The LASD added that the "Department of Justice (DOJ) establishes
> guidelines for CCW permits and the Sheriff’s Department must follow
> the DOJ parameters in accordance with the law" when it came to
> revoking the homeowner's permit, adding that it can be "immediately
> reinstated as long as the permit holder has also followed all required
> CCW policies."
>
> Vince Ricci with wife, left, and child
> Vince Ricci with his family outside their home. (NRA )
>
> ARMED HOMEOWNER WHO DEFENDED HOME IN SHOOT-OUT UNLOADS ON LIBERAL
> POLITICIANS: 'NOT GONNA CARE'
>
> "The DOJ has been notified and there are avenues for Mr. Ricci to
> re-apply for his permit. We have been in contact with the Ricci family
> and have been providing information to them about CCW protocols and
> guidelines in an effort to ensure their Second Amendment rights are
> protected," the spokesperson said. "The Sheriff's Department respects
> the rights of individuals to exercise their Second Amendment rights
> and continually processes over thousands of CCW permit applications
> and renewals every year. The Sheriff’s Department CCW Unit works
> diligently to track, process, and manage individuals who possess or
> seek CCW permits in Los Angeles County."
>
> LA homeowner opening fire on suspect
> L.A. homeowner fires his weapon at two suspects shooting at him on his
> property. (LAPD)
>
> But Swearer argued it is "completely unclear" what DOJ guidelines LASD
> could be referring to, questioning whether the department "would have
> any role in the decision to revoke Ricci’s permit."
>
> "The only specific policies that LASD mentions in passing are
> regarding ‘proper notifications’ and the ‘use of [a] properly
> documented weapon,'" Swearer said. "But, to my knowledge, the only
> place where such policies are found with respect to the automatic
> revocation of a CCW license isn’t in DOJ guidelines or state law,
> but in the additional ‘terms and conditions’ agreement that LASD
> requires all CCW applicants to sign. Not only are these terms and
> conditions not required by the California DOJ or by state law, but
> LASD is one of only a few jurisdictions that impose them."
>
> Nevertheless, Swearer noted that California law enforcement agencies
> are responsible for issuing concealed carry permits and that they have
> "broad discretion over most aspects of issuing or revoking those
> licenses."
>
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> Given California's strict gun laws and the discretion given to the
> state's law enforcement agencies, Swearer questioned what recourse the
> homeowner has to regain his Second Amendment rights.
>
> "They’ve revoked his license because they want to and because they
> can. I don’t think this is an overly cynical view of how LASD,
> specifically, and California lawmakers, generally, approaches the
> right to keep and bear arms," she said.
>
> LA shooting
> A suspect first approaches an L.A. homeowner while pointing a firearm.
> (LAPD)
>
> While denying licenses has become harder for authorities to justify in
> light of recent Supreme Court rulings, Swearer argued that California
> still has the ability to restrict its citizens' ability to carry
> firearms.
>
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> "There’s no reason to pretend that Bruen dramatically altered this
> general anti-Second Amendment mindset," Swearer said of the 2022
> Supreme Court decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
> Inc. v. Bruen. "They’ve just had to get more creative with how they
> get in the way now. They can’t restrict public carry nearly as much
> on the front end, so they seem bent on doing everything in their power
> to suspend and revoke licenses at will on the back end."
>
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> UltraMagaPatriot942
> 8 hours ago
> Don't worry those same police are looking for the 2 perps that never
> applied for a CCW and if caught will probably be released on no cash
> bail and no gun charges brought against them. The perps are a
> protected class exempt from laws.
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> The_Chronicles_of_Corn_Pop_by_Robert_L._Peters
> 8 hours ago
> We’ve been armed since the beginning. We’ve had repeating arms
> since the 1860s. We’ve had semiautomatics since the 1890s. What
> has truly changed? Leftists wanted, promoted, advocated for, voted
> for, and got the sick, twisted, amoral society we have today.
>
> With the Executive Branch and the ...
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> 4 replies
> Leek455892
> 8 hours ago
>
> Let this serve as notice! If the government ever takes all our guns,
> you’ll never get them
>
> Back!
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> pocketmouse889
> 6 hours ago
>
> The 14th Amendment prevents states from infringing on "the privileges
> or immunities of citizens of the United States" without due process of
> law.
>
> Taking his permit would seem to be in violation of the constitutional
> rights we hold.
>
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> horusthe1
> 4 hours ago
>
> The permit itself is a violation, homie.
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> carmenghia
> 4 hours ago
>
> the problem is where do you find an attorney who can go up against the
> socialist government we have now?
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> rogertheindependent
> 9 hours ago
>
> The best way to prevent these constitutional violations issued by
> left-wing government officials is to amend the legal process such that
> the government officials have to pay the individuals a significant
> financial settlement when its ruled that they violated the persons 2nd
> amendment rights.
>
>
> trkyhntr
> 8 hours ago
>
> ---from their personal funds, please. Not from tax money.
>
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> don’thave
> 7 hours ago
>
> a person has the right to sue if any constitutional right was
> violated. Cops should have to have their own malpractice insurance
> though
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> steve977
> 8 hours ago
>
> Challenge the law. Courts have made it clear that there cannot be
> conditions put on our rights.
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Leftist Democrats have made their intentions clear - prevent honest
people from defending themselves from criminals, and punish those who
do.

What kind of stupid electorate keeps putting these kinds of people in
office?