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* Google and AIMole Cool
`* Google and AIet99
 `* Google and AIRich
  `* Google and AIChristian Werner
   `- Google and AIMole Cool

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Google and AI

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Subject: Google and AI
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 by: Mole Cool - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 20:03 UTC

I really wonder, that with ai, it is not possible to get rid of this spam. Even with a simple Tcl script you may detect this 😎

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 by: et99 - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:46 UTC

On 11/3/2023 1:03 PM, Mole Cool wrote:
> I really wonder, that with ai, it is not possible to get rid of this spam. Even with a simple Tcl script you may detect this 😎

I only see the spam with google groups. On my desktop, using firefox, with this url I don't see the (recent) spam.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/comp.lang.tcl/-interwin%20and%20-slot

When I use thunderbird for reading and replying, I also don't see the spam.

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 by: Rich - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 02:26 UTC

aldo.w....@gmail.com <aldo.w.buratti@gmail.com> wrote:
> Il giorno sabato 4 novembre 2023 alle 23:46:18 UTC+1 et99 ha scritto:
>> On 11/3/2023 1:03 PM, Mole Cool wrote:
>> > I really wonder, that with ai, it is not possible to get rid of
>> > this spam. Even with a simple Tcl script you may detect this 😎
>
>> I only see the spam with google groups. On my desktop, using
>> firefox, with this url I don't see the (recent) spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/comp.lang.tcl/-interwin%20and%20-slot
>>
>> When I use thunderbird for reading and replying, I also don't see the spam.
>
> Great ! It works !
> Anyway, I marked those messages as spam, hoping Google will remove them.

If you marked them in the google groups interface, then absolutely
nothing will happen. No one at google pays any attention to those
messages that are marked as spam, nor do they do anything to stop the
flood.

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 by: Christian Werner - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 22:21 UTC

Indeed, were it not so sad, it's fascinating how things can disintegrate in almost zero time. Now try to think in global dimensions or interplanetary, even.

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 by: Mole Cool - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 22:10 UTC

Christian Werner schrieb am Sonntag, 5. November 2023 um 23:21:59 UTC+1:
> Indeed, were it not so sad, it's fascinating how things can disintegrate in almost zero time. Now try to think in global dimensions or interplanetary, even.

For me this looks really like simple pattern, therefore I don’t get it. And I would not have hundreds of algorithms to validate this kind of spam. Yes it may at the end somewhat difficult, but by all of the hype regarding AI this small sites are a good place to check that. But either they don’t care or they can’t, and I tend to believe the last.

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