Now available at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/

are candidate files making up the RC3 pre-releases of Tcl and Tk 9.0b1.

The pre-release of Tcl 9.0b1 includes the package sqlite3.44.2 and pre-releases of packages Itcl 4.2.4, tdbc* 1.1.6, and Thread 3.0b1 .

The RC3 files should become the 9.0b1 releases in the next several days, with a release announcement. Please report any release-blocking troubles you discover.

These releases are intended for beta testing for the purpose of reporting and fixing bugs and discovering hurdles of migration to the new major versions. It is not recommended that they be deployed to any mission critical usage without careful testing and consideration.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:39:43 -0500, Don Porter wrote:

>Now available at
>
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>
**************************

Will someone please tell me how I can compile and installl Tcl 9 in a
way that will absolutely not interfere with my current 8.6 installation?
Ideally, the system should not even know it exists, and I can run my
scripts with

$ /home/tcl/sandbox/tcl9/tclsh /path/to/script.tcl

Would 'stow' perhaps be a good solution for that?

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>>

On 12/21/23 17:44, Luc wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:39:43 -0500, Don Porter wrote:
>
>> Now available at
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>>
> **************************
>
> Will someone please tell me how I can compile and installl Tcl 9 in a
> way that will absolutely not interfere with my current 8.6 installation?
> Ideally, the system should not even know it exists, and I can run my
> scripts with
>
> $ /home/tcl/sandbox/tcl9/tclsh /path/to/script.tcl
>
>
> Would 'stow' perhaps be a good solution for that?

Read up about symlinks.
Read up about the PATH variable.

In article <oRfhN.93875$Wp_8.89292@fx17.iad>,
Gerald Lester <Gerald.Lester@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 12/21/23 17:44, Luc wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:39:43 -0500, Don Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Now available at
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>>>
>> **************************
>>
>> Will someone please tell me how I can compile and installl Tcl 9 in a
>> way that will absolutely not interfere with my current 8.6 installation?
>> Ideally, the system should not even know it exists, and I can run my
>> scripts with
>>
>> $ /home/tcl/sandbox/tcl9/tclsh /path/to/script.tcl
>>
>>
>> Would 'stow' perhaps be a good solution for that?
>
>Read up about symlinks.
>Read up about the PATH variable.
>
>

When I'm compiling a "side" Tcl, I just do something like this in the
"unix" dir of the distribution:

do_config:
====
#!/bin/sh
../configure \
--prefix=/usr/local/cluster/tcl-core-8-6-11 \
--enable-64bit \
> config.out 2>&1

do_make:
====
#!/bin/sh
make > make.out 2>&1

do_install:
====
#!/bin/sh
make install > install.out 2>&1

And then

../do_config
(check output)

../do_make
(check output)

../do_install
(check_output)

Set your desired version in "do_config", of course.

Then just put /usr/local/cluster/tcl-core-8-6-11/bin in front of
your PATH when you want to play with that version.
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On 12/21/2023 3:44 PM, Luc wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:39:43 -0500, Don Porter wrote:
>
>> Now available at
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>>
> **************************
>
> Will someone please tell me how I can compile and installl Tcl 9 in a
> way that will absolutely not interfere with my current 8.6 installation?
> Ideally, the system should not even know it exists, and I can run my
> scripts with
>
> $ /home/tcl/sandbox/tcl9/tclsh /path/to/script.tcl
>
>
> Would 'stow' perhaps be a good solution for that?
>
>

Here's how I built an 8.6.13, It's been quite a while since I build on linux (windows build is easier imo), but here's the basic idea:

../configure --prefix=/path/to/place/build

make
make install

then for tk, you need to add the option --with-tcl so it can find the one you just built

../configure --prefix=/path/to/place/build --with-tcl=/path/to.../unix

pointing to where the unix directory is that you did the tcl build from

make
make install

And then when you run. I likely have these dir's a bit wrong, but wherever the lib and bin for these went. If you don't do this library path thing you end up mixing up your versions of stuff at runtime.

> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/place/build/lib /path/to/place/build/bin/wish8.6

Hope this helps.

On 12/22/2023 7:26 PM, et99 wrote:
> On 12/21/2023 3:44 PM, Luc wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:39:43 -0500, Don Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Now available at
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>>>
>> **************************
>>
>> Will someone please tell me how I can compile and installl Tcl 9 in a
>> way that will absolutely not interfere with my current 8.6 installation?
>> Ideally, the system should not even know it exists, and I can run my
>> scripts with
>>
>> $ /home/tcl/sandbox/tcl9/tclsh /path/to/script.tcl
>>
>>
>> Would 'stow' perhaps be a good solution for that?
>>
>>
>
> Here's how I built an 8.6.13, It's been quite a while since I build on linux (windows build is easier imo), but here's the basic idea:
>
>
> ./configure --prefix=/path/to/place/build
>
>
> make
> make install
>
> then for tk, you need to add the option --with-tcl so it can find the one you just built
>
> ./configure --prefix=/path/to/place/build  --with-tcl=/path/to.../unix
>
> pointing to where the unix directory is that you did the tcl build from
>
> make
> make install
>
> And then when you run. I likely have these dir's a bit wrong, but wherever the lib and bin for these went. If you don't do this library path thing you end up mixing up your versions of stuff at runtime.
>
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/place/build/lib /path/to/place/build/bin/wish8.6
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
http://www.tcl.tk/doc/howto/compile.html

official howto

Now available at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/

are the RC4 candidate source code distribution pre-releases of Tcl 9.0b1 and Tk 9.0b1 and bundled packages.

The changes from RC3:
Tcl: Update the tzdata files to 2023d
Tk: Correct zipfs attached archives for Windows.
Update TK_RELEASE_SERIAL
Thread,TDBC*:
Support builds of Tcl 8 compatible installation against Tcl 9 headers

It is expected that these release artifacts will be renamed to become the Tcl/Tk 9.0b1 releases in the next several days.

Thank you for your contributions and assistance.
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| donald.porter@nist.gov Information Technology Laboratory |
| http://math.nist.gov/~DPorter/ NIST |
|______________________________________________________________________|

Don Porter wrote:

>
> Now available at
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>
> are the RC4 candidate source code distribution pre-releases of Tcl
> 9.0b1 and Tk 9.0b1 and bundled packages.
>
> The changes from RC3:
> Tcl: Update the tzdata files to 2023d
> Tk: Correct zipfs attached archives for Windows.
> Update TK_RELEASE_SERIAL
> Thread,TDBC*:
> Support builds of Tcl 8 compatible installation against
> Tcl 9 headers
>
> It is expected that these release artifacts will be renamed to become
> the Tcl/Tk 9.0b1 releases in the next several days.
>
> Thank you for your contributions and assistance.

Problem building Tk9.0 on linux (OpenSuse 15.5)

1. My source directory contains the following subdirectories (among
others)
tcl8.6.12
tk8.6.12
tcl9.0b1
tk9.0b1

2. tcl9.0 builds with no problems.

3. Attempt to run configure script in ~/source/tk9.0b1/unix fails.
output from ./config is
configure: loading site script /usr/share/site/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking for Tcl configuration...
found /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh
checking for existence
of /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh... loading
configure: error: tk 9.0 requires Tcl 8.7+
Found config for Tcl 8.6

4. If I rename subdirectory tcl8.6.12 to something harmless, configure
runs ok, and tk9.0b1 builds successfully.

5. So it looks like configure script looks for tclConfig.sh in the first
tclish subdirectory it finds, rather than searching for one with
matching version.
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On 12/29/2023 5:57 PM, Ian wrote:
> Don Porter wrote:
>
>>
>> Now available at
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/Tcl/9.0b1/
>>
>> are the RC4 candidate source code distribution pre-releases of Tcl
>> 9.0b1 and Tk 9.0b1 and bundled packages.
>>
>> The changes from RC3:
>> Tcl: Update the tzdata files to 2023d
>> Tk: Correct zipfs attached archives for Windows.
>> Update TK_RELEASE_SERIAL
>> Thread,TDBC*:
>> Support builds of Tcl 8 compatible installation against
>> Tcl 9 headers
>>
>> It is expected that these release artifacts will be renamed to become
>> the Tcl/Tk 9.0b1 releases in the next several days.
>>
>> Thank you for your contributions and assistance.
>
> Problem building Tk9.0 on linux (OpenSuse 15.5)
>
> 1. My source directory contains the following subdirectories (among
> others)
> tcl8.6.12
> tk8.6.12
> tcl9.0b1
> tk9.0b1
>
> 2. tcl9.0 builds with no problems.
>
> 3. Attempt to run configure script in ~/source/tk9.0b1/unix fails.
> output from ./config is
> configure: loading site script /usr/share/site/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> checking for Tcl configuration...
> found /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh
> checking for existence
> of /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh... loading
> configure: error: tk 9.0 requires Tcl 8.7+
> Found config for Tcl 8.6
>
> 4. If I rename subdirectory tcl8.6.12 to something harmless, configure
> runs ok, and tk9.0b1 builds successfully.
>
> 5. So it looks like configure script looks for tclConfig.sh in the first
> tclish subdirectory it finds, rather than searching for one with
> matching version.

I haven't tried building on linux yet, but on windows, there was something about a side by side build where I didn't have to do much of anything to build Tk after building Tcl, as long as the two were unzipped into the same directory. Perhaps that's what you are seeing.

On 12/29/23 20:57, Ian wrote:
> 3. Attempt to run configure script in ~/source/tk9.0b1/unix fails.
> output from ./config is
> configure: loading site script /usr/share/site/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> checking for Tcl configuration...
> found /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh
> checking for existence
> of /home/ian/source/tcl8.6.12/unix/tclConfig.sh... loading
> configure: error: tk 9.0 requires Tcl 8.7+
> Found config for Tcl 8.6
....
> 5. So it looks like configure script looks for tclConfig.sh in the first
> tclish subdirectory it finds, rather than searching for one with
> matching version.

Feel free to open a ticket offering improved search strategies, but
the --with-tcl= option is there for scenarios like the one you describe.

$ ./configure --with-tcl=../../tcl9.0b1/unix

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| donald.porter@nist.gov Information Technology Laboratory |
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