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* Re: Python and Ubuntu versionsChris Angelico
`* Re: Python and Ubuntu versionsMike Easter
 `* Re: Python and Ubuntu versionsTerry Reedy
  `* Re: Python and Ubuntu versionsMike Easter
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 by: Chris Angelico - Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:51 UTC

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 7:48 PM Cameron Simpson <cs@cskk.id.au> wrote:
> Do the build and install as yourself. I usually do the install step by
> making the install directory as root, then chowning it to me. Then you
> can do the install as you - this has the advantage the you're
> unprivileged and can't accidentally damage the OS install.

That's interesting, in that it leaves you vulnerable to accidentally
damaging your alternate installation, but you're putting it into a
directory that normally would look privileged. I'd be inclined to
leave /usr as a privileged directory, and do this sort of installation
entirely within ~/bin or something equivalent. But hey, this is the
flexibility of Unix file system permissions!

ChrisA

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 by: Mike Easter - Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:11 UTC

For those who are following this thread on a conventional news server,
there are missing parts which came from the python-list mailing list
instead.

For those who prefer an nntp access to the mailing list, the
corresponding group on news.gmane.io is gmane.comp.python.general.

Posting there is unconventional.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Terry Reedy - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:22 UTC

On 7/23/2021 5:11 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> For those who are following this thread on a conventional news server,
> there are missing parts which came from the python-list mailing list
> instead.
>
> For those who prefer an nntp access to the mailing list, the
> corresponding group on news.gmane.io is gmane.comp.python.general.
>
> Posting there is unconventional.

Huh? If you read this, posting from gmane works fine!

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Terry Jan Reedy

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 by: Mike Easter - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:57 UTC

Terry Reedy wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> For those who are following this thread on a conventional news server,
>> there are missing parts which came from the python-list mailing list
>> instead.
>>
>> For those who prefer an nntp access to the mailing list, the
>> corresponding group on news.gmane.io is gmane.comp.python.general.
>>
>> Posting there is unconventional.
>
> Huh?  If you read this, posting from gmane works fine!
>
In the past, old gmane required posting w/ a good email because the
gmane server required you to receive an email and self-approve your posting.

So, are you saying that gmane didn't require you to approve/authorize
your msg?

I was able to read your msg on both gmane's and my conventional nntp. I
replied on my conventional NIN because my typical config (and my config
on the experimental gmane acct) was w/ a bogus/invalid email, and
previously an accidental attempt to post on gmane that way failed.

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Mike Easter

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 by: Mike Easter - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:04 UTC

Mike Easter wrote:
> Terry Reedy wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> For those who are following this thread on a conventional news
>>> server, there are missing parts which came from the python-list
>>> mailing list instead.
>>>
>>> For those who prefer an nntp access to the mailing list, the
>>> corresponding group on news.gmane.io is gmane.comp.python.general.
>>>
>>> Posting there is unconventional.
>>
>> Huh?  If you read this, posting from gmane works fine!
>>
> In the past, old gmane required posting w/ a good email because the
> gmane server required you to receive an email and self-approve your
> posting.
>
> So, are you saying that gmane didn't require you to approve/authorize
> your msg?
>
> I was able to read your msg on both gmane's and my conventional nntp.  I
> replied on my conventional NIN because my typical config (and my config
> on the experimental gmane acct) was w/ a bogus/invalid email, and
> previously an accidental attempt to post on gmane that way failed.
>
I'm reading a msg that suggests that if you a sub/ed to the py-list,
that takes care of the gmane 'unconventional' problem.

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Mike Easter

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 by: Mike Easter - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:53 UTC

Mike Easter wrote:
> In the past, old gmane required posting w/ a good email because the
> gmane server required you to receive an email and self-approve your
> posting.

The old gmane also obfuscated the email of someone posting that way.
So, you needed to configure your agent to use a good email, but gmane
used a strategy to mitigate exposing your email to spam.

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Mike Easter

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 by: אורי - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 01:56 UTC

Thank you.
אורי
uri@speedy.net

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 2:20 PM Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

> Mike Easter wrote:
> > In the past, old gmane required posting w/ a good email because the
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> The old gmane also obfuscated the email of someone posting that way.
> So, you needed to configure your agent to use a good email, but gmane
> used a strategy to mitigate exposing your email to spam.
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