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 by: Chris Angelico - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:59 UTC

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 8:20 PM Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@vub.be> wrote:
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> Op 27/10/2021 om 10:49 schreef Chris Angelico:
> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 7:46 PM Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@vub.be> wrote:
> >>> So if you want this added, show a use-case that makes it look way
> >>> better than the alternatives (including a generator, a mid-loop break,
> >>> etc).
> >> Way better according to which criteria? IMO to realy make something like
> >> this you would need a one and a half loop. But although at some time there
> >> was a strong indication it would get included, the idea was eventually discarted.
> >>
> >> So I'll argue for incremental better if I see a possibility. A few incremental
> >> betters can eventually result in something that is way better than the original.
> > According to any criteria you like. Remember, the onus is not on the
> > status quo to justify itself; the onus is on someone who wants to make
> > a change.
>
> Then don't answer that I can justify it according to any criteria I like.
> It will have to be done according to criteria that are important to the
> people who like the status quo. That it will be justified according to
> criteria I like, will be totally unimportant.
>
> > Demonstrate that a change is needed by showing the benefits.
>
> Nothing is needed. But the walrus operator wasn't needed either. Asking to
> show something is needed is putting a burden on who wants to advocate for
> this, that isn't put on others.
>

You can argue the word "need" all you like, but the fact remains that
YOU want a change, so YOU have to convince people of the benefits.

ChrisA

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