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* Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?Marcel Hendrix
+- Re: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?minf...@arcor.de
+- Re: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?dxforth
+- Re: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?S Jack
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 `- Re: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?dxforth

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Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?

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Subject: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?
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 by: Marcel Hendrix - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:24 UTC

Is (or was) there a trick that makes / made
it unnecessary to have words that print a
number left aligned?

E.g. something like 99. -8 D.R -- I need it far too much.
It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
in front of positive numbers.

-marcel

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Marcel Hendrix schrieb am Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2021 um 17:24:07 UTC+1:
> Is (or was) there a trick that makes / made
> it unnecessary to have words that print a
> number left aligned?
>
> E.g. something like 99. -8 D.R -- I need it far too much.
> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
> in front of positive numbers.
>

I guess it originates back from the times of fixed space dot matrix printers where
each EMIT incremented an OUT variable. With OUT it was easy to advance to the
desired print start position through SPACES.

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Subject: Re: Why do we have .R and D.R but not .L and D.L?
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 by: dxforth - Thu, 30 Dec 2021 01:08 UTC

On 30/12/2021 03:24, Marcel Hendrix wrote:
> Is (or was) there a trick that makes / made
> it unnecessary to have words that print a
> number left aligned?
>
> E.g. something like 99. -8 D.R -- I need it far too much.

Given the parameter means 'field width' what does that even do?

> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
> in front of positive numbers.

Handy for applications that you write? Well, that's the job
of an engineer isn't it - to create what he needs from the
materials he's got.

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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:24:07 AM UTC-6, Marcel Hendrix wrote:
> Is (or was) there a trick that makes / made
> it unnecessary to have words that print a
> number left aligned?
>
> E.g. something like 99. -8 D.R -- I need it far too much.
> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
> in front of positive numbers.
>
> -marcel

[#] nbrfmt.f -- Output number formats
[s] Double-number extensions
[r] DX. ( d -- )
[r] DN. ( d dpl -- )
[r] DN.R ( d dpl fld -- )
[r] UD.R ( ud fld -- )
[r] UD. ( ud -- )
[r] UDX. ( ud -- )
[r] UDN. ( ud dpl -- )
[r] UDN.R ( ud dpl fld -- )
[s] Single-number extensions
[r] U.R ( u fld -- )
[r] X. ( n -- )
[r] N. ( n dpl -- )
[r] N.R ( n dpl fld -- )
[r] UX. ( u -- )
[r] UN. ( u dpl -- )
[r] UN.R ( u dpl fld -- )
[s]
[r] -FREE
[s] Relative/absolute memory conversion
[r] RMEM ( nabs -- nrel )
[r] AMEM ( nrel -- nabs )
[r] .RMEM ( abs -- )
[r] .AMEM ( nabs -- )
[r] .RAMEM ( nabs -- )
[r] defer (.MEM) ( nabs -- )
[r] .MEM ( nabs -- )
[r] -RMEM
[r] -AMEM
[r] -RAMEM
[s] Print memory address
[r] .VAL ( x -- )
[r] .ADDR ( a -- )
[r] .ADDRVAL ( a -- )
[r] .ADDRDVAL ( a -- )
[r] .ADDRUDVAL ( a -- )
[#] //
--
me

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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:24:07 AM UTC-6, Marcel Hendrix wrote:
> Is (or was) there a trick that makes / made
> it unnecessary to have words that print a
> number left aligned?
>
> E.g. something like 99. -8 D.R -- I need it far too much.
> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
> in front of positive numbers.
>
> -marcel
The left align is free; the field starts with the number.

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 by: S Jack - Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:08 UTC

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:24:07 AM UTC-6, Marcel Hendrix wrote:
> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
> in front of positive numbers.

In olden days had mode switch; when enabled would print positive numbers with '+'.
Went away long back for whatever reason. At present I'm using '+' to indicate a
relative address . Have mode switches to display numbers relative, absolute or both
and also to include commas or not.
--
me

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 by: dxforth - Fri, 31 Dec 2021 02:12 UTC

On 31/12/2021 07:08, S Jack wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:24:07 AM UTC-6, Marcel Hendrix wrote:
>> It is also handy to have a .R that emits a '+' or space
>> in front of positive numbers.
>
> In olden days had mode switch; when enabled would print positive numbers with '+'.
> Went away long back for whatever reason. At present I'm using '+' to indicate a
> relative address . Have mode switches to display numbers relative, absolute or both
> and also to include commas or not.

'There are no positive numbers really. Matter of fact they're all positive.'

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