On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 04:50, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/9/22 13:05, Marco Sulla wrote:
> > So my laziness pays. I use only LTS distros, and I update only when
> > there are security updates.
> > PS: any suggestions for a new LTS distro? My Lubuntu is reaching its
> > end-of-life. I prefer lightweight debian-like distros.
>
> Maybe Debian itself?

I tried Debian on a VM, but I found it too much basical. A little
example: it does not have the shortcut ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
that Ubuntu has. I'm quite sure it's simple to add, but I'm starting
to be old and lazy...

Marco Sulla <Marco.Sulla.Python@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 04:50, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/9/22 13:05, Marco Sulla wrote:
>> > So my laziness pays. I use only LTS distros, and I update only when
>> > there are security updates.
>> > PS: any suggestions for a new LTS distro? My Lubuntu is reaching its
>> > end-of-life. I prefer lightweight debian-like distros.
>>
>> Maybe Debian itself?
>
> I tried Debian on a VM, but I found it too much basical. A little
> example: it does not have the shortcut ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
> that Ubuntu has. I'm quite sure it's simple to add, but I'm starting
> to be old and lazy...

The shortcuts are properties of the desktop environment. You could just
install LXDE/LXQt on Debian if that's what you're used to from Lubuntu.
Of course, if you're too old and lazy to set up a shortcut, you might
also be too old and lazy to install a different desktop environment ;-)

Cheers,

Loris

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Marco Sulla wrote:

>>
>> Maybe Debian itself?
>
> I tried Debian on a VM, but I found it too much basical. A little
> example: it does not have the shortcut ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
> that Ubuntu has. I'm quite sure it's simple to add, but I'm starting
> to be old and lazy...
>

I use the current stable release of Debian 11.2 Bullseye
with the lxqt desktop environment ....

[Ctrl]-[Alt]-[T] will open a new qterminal window.

The following will display a list of lxqt packages
that are in the repository and available to install ....

apt-cache search lxqt | grep ^lxqt

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 09:51, Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Marco Sulla wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Maybe Debian itself?
> >
> > I tried Debian on a VM, but I found it too much basical. A little
> > example: it does not have the shortcut ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
> > that Ubuntu has. I'm quite sure it's simple to add, but I'm starting
> > to be old and lazy...
> >
>
> I use the current stable release of Debian 11.2 Bullseye
> with the lxqt desktop environment ....
>
> [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[T] will open a new qterminal window.
>
>
> The following will display a list of lxqt packages
> that are in the repository and available to install ....
>
> apt-cache search lxqt | grep ^lxqt
>
Much faster:

apt-cache pkgnames lxqt

(apt-cache search will look for "lxqt" in descriptions too, hence the
need to filter those out - apt-cache pkgnames is used by tab
completion)

ChrisA

Op 11/03/2022 om 3:50 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 09:51, Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The following will display a list of lxqt packages
> > that are in the repository and available to install ....
> >
> > apt-cache search lxqt | grep ^lxqt
> >
> Much faster:
>
> apt-cache pkgnames lxqt
>
> (apt-cache search will look for "lxqt" in descriptions too, hence the
> need to filter those out - apt-cache pkgnames is used by tab
> completion)
>
Cousing Stanley's suggestion has the advantage that it also prints the
short descriptions instead of just the package names. The packages names
are often a bit too cryptic, I think.

To search only in package names but still show the short description you
could also --names-only instead of grep:

    apt-cache search --names-only lxqt

or

    apt-cache search --names-only ^lxqt

Chris, when you say "Much faster", do you mean faster to type or faster
to execute? Your suggestion is certainly faster and easier to type. But
as for execution speed: on my systems apt-cache search is fast enough
that I don't really care about its execution time. When listing packages
that is; tab completion is a different matter, where every delay can be
quite annoying.

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 19:57, Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> wrote:
>
> Op 11/03/2022 om 3:50 schreef Chris Angelico:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 09:51, Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The following will display a list of lxqt packages
> > > that are in the repository and available to install ....
> > >
> > > apt-cache search lxqt | grep ^lxqt
> > >
> > Much faster:
> >
> > apt-cache pkgnames lxqt
> >
> > (apt-cache search will look for "lxqt" in descriptions too, hence the
> > need to filter those out - apt-cache pkgnames is used by tab
> > completion)
> >
> Cousing Stanley's suggestion has the advantage that it also prints the
> short descriptions instead of just the package names. The packages names
> are often a bit too cryptic, I think.
>
> To search only in package names but still show the short description you
> could also --names-only instead of grep:
>
> apt-cache search --names-only lxqt
>
> or
>
> apt-cache search --names-only ^lxqt
>
> Chris, when you say "Much faster", do you mean faster to type or faster
> to execute? Your suggestion is certainly faster and easier to type. But
> as for execution speed: on my systems apt-cache search is fast enough
> that I don't really care about its execution time. When listing packages
> that is; tab completion is a different matter, where every delay can be
> quite annoying.

Notably faster to execute on my system. Maybe the difference is
insignificant on yours, but it's highly unlikely to be *slower*. The
speed difference probably depends on how many package repositories you
have, whether you have source packages, etc, etc, etc. (And of course,
whether it's on a hard drive or SSD.)

And what I would *actually* type is "apt i<tab> lxqt<tab><tab>", so
it's quite a lot faster. (I actually had to look up the precise
command.)

ChrisA

Cousin Stanley wrote:

>> apt-cache search lxqt | grep ^lxqt

Chris Angelico wrote:

> Much faster:
>
> apt-cache pkgnames lxqt
>
> apt-cache search will look for "lxqt" in descriptions too,
> hence the need to filter those out
>
> apt-cache pkgnames is used by tab completion)
>

Thanks ....

I didn't know about using pkgnames with apt-cache.

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