novaBBS - comp.lang.python - Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?

Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?

<4751fe7c-bb8e-4062-b5c7-c7c3ac1cedc6n@googlegroups.com>

https://www.novabbs.com/devel/article-flat.php?id=17742&group=comp.lang.python#17742

copy link Newsgroups: comp.lang.python

X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:21a3:b0:441:35fd:920e with SMTP id t3-20020a05621421a300b0044135fd920emr11577854qvc.41.1649337990794;
Thu, 07 Apr 2022 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:ac8:46d6:0:b0:2eb:dc8c:eaa6 with SMTP id
h22-20020ac846d6000000b002ebdc8ceaa6mr594049qto.286.1649337990558; Thu, 07
Apr 2022 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:1210:689b:7a00:1919:645f:3b51:31c9;
posting-account=ung4FAoAAAC46zhHJ0Nsnuox7M5gDvs_
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:1210:689b:7a00:1919:645f:3b51:31c9
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <4751fe7c-bb8e-4062-b5c7-c7c3ac1cedc6n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?
From: wxjmfa...@gmail.com (moi)
Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 13:26:30 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lines: 26

by: moi - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:26 UTC

Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?

In unicode, latin1 does not exist. In fact, unicode is free
of any 8-bit coding schemes.
The latin1 case is very particular:

*** ONE CAN NOT WRITE TEXT IN FRENCH WITH LATIN1 (ISO-8859-1) ***

This is the reason why Windows-1252, mac-roman and IS0-8859-15 (too late?)
were created. (Sometime, even IS0-8859-15 is replaced by IS0-8859-16 !).

This has two amusing consequences :
- People, understand "coding of characters illiterate" (no offense), who
are implementing unicode via utf-8/16/32 are automagically producing
something correct.
- Those who are attempting to "optimize latin1" are not only wasting their
time to optimize something which is unusable, they are also risking to
produce buggy code. (I ensure you, this happens).

This problematic, French/latin1, exists since decades.
I’m no more counting the number of strupidities one can find
in miscellanous documentations or on the web.

Voilà.

Re: Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?

<b4de9c39-f1bb-416c-88b4-bc4918d01a56n@googlegroups.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/devel/article-flat.php?id=17744&group=comp.lang.python#17744

copy link Newsgroups: comp.lang.python

X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:41:b0:2e1:df22:358 with SMTP id y1-20020a05622a004100b002e1df220358mr11993444qtw.186.1649341874524;
Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:2586:b0:680:f846:4708 with SMTP id
x6-20020a05620a258600b00680f8464708mr9478241qko.654.1649341874258; Thu, 07
Apr 2022 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <4751fe7c-bb8e-4062-b5c7-c7c3ac1cedc6n@googlegroups.com>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:1210:689b:7a00:1919:645f:3b51:31c9;
posting-account=ung4FAoAAAC46zhHJ0Nsnuox7M5gDvs_
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:1210:689b:7a00:1919:645f:3b51:31c9
References: <4751fe7c-bb8e-4062-b5c7-c7c3ac1cedc6n@googlegroups.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <b4de9c39-f1bb-416c-88b4-bc4918d01a56n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?
From: wxjmfa...@gmail.com (moi)
Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 14:31:14 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lines: 32

by: moi - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 14:31 UTC

Le jeudi 7 avril 2022 à 15:26:42 UTC+2, moi a écrit :
> Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?
>
> In unicode, latin1 does not exist. In fact, unicode is free
> of any 8-bit coding schemes.
> The latin1 case is very particular:
>
> *** ONE CAN NOT WRITE TEXT IN FRENCH WITH LATIN1 (ISO-8859-1) ***
>
>
> This is the reason why Windows-1252, mac-roman and IS0-8859-15 (too late?)
> were created. (Sometime, even IS0-8859-15 is replaced by IS0-8859-16 !).
>
>
> This has two amusing consequences :
> - People, understand "coding of characters illiterate" (no offense), who
> are implementing unicode via utf-8/16/32 are automagically producing
> something correct.
> - Those who are attempting to "optimize latin1" are not only wasting their
> time to optimize something which is unusable, they are also risking to
> produce buggy code. (I ensure you, this happens).
>
> This problematic, French/latin1, exists since decades.
> I’m no more counting the number of strupidities one can find
> in miscellanous documentations or on the web.
>
> Voilà.

Typo ISO-8859-xx, not IS0-8859-xx

"Ahead warp factor 1" -- Captain Kirk

devel / comp.lang.python / Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?

Subject	Author
Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?	moi
Re: Do you know why, there is no latin1 in unicode?	moi