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by: 황병희 - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 05:02 UTC

hellow i'm new to c lang.
give me advice or book recomendation.

i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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by: Philipp Klaus Krause - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 08:25 UTC

Am 22.10.21 um 07:02 schrieb 황병희:
> hellow i'm new to c lang.
> give me advice or book recomendation.
>
> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>

Robert Seacords "Effective C" is IMO a good introduction. Building on
that, I would recommend Jens Gustedt's "Modern C" as a more advanced
follow-up.

Philipp

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by: 황병희 - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:08 UTC

Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> writes:

> Am 22.10.21 um 07:02 schrieb 황병희:
>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>
>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>
>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>
>
> Robert Seacords "Effective C" is IMO a good introduction. Building on
> that, I would recommend Jens Gustedt's "Modern C" as a more advanced
> follow-up.

Thanks, Philipp!

My mind is going to Effective c because he is member of linux
foundation. Thanks again! Philipp you are nice guy!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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by: Branimir Maksimovic - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:23 UTC

On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
> hellow i'm new to c lang.
> give me advice or book recomendation.
>
> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/~jypan/Teaching/ParaComp/books/The%20C%20Programming%20Language%202nd.pdf
PEACE&L|OvE brother :P

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by: Keith Thompson - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:32 UTC

Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
> On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>
>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>
>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
> http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/[DELETED/.pdf

That is a pirated copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd edition, by
Kernighan and Ritchie. You can get a legitimate copy (paper or
electronic) from any bookseller.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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by: Chris M. Thomasson - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:07 UTC

On 10/22/2021 11:32 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>> On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>
>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>
>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>> http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/[DELETED/.pdf
>
> That is a pirated copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd edition, by
> Kernighan and Ritchie. You can get a legitimate copy (paper or
> electronic) from any bookseller.
>

I never even look at these pirated works. The pdf might even have a
virus in it. ;^o

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by: Bart - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:30 UTC

On 22/10/2021 20:07, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/22/2021 11:32 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>>> On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
>>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>>
>>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>> http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/[DELETED/.pdf
>>
>> That is a pirated copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd edition, by
>> Kernighan and Ritchie. You can get a legitimate copy (paper or
>> electronic) from any bookseller.
>>
>
> I never even look at these pirated works. The pdf might even have a
> virus in it. ;^o

Took late; I had a quick look. It looked rather washed out me.

Also there are bits missing (eg. the Introduction and Index), and the
pages are not aligned with the paper edition because there are more
lines per page and they start at 1 rather than i..xii then 1.

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by: Branimir Maksimovic - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:40 UTC

On 2021-10-22, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>> On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>
>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>
>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>> http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/[DELETED/.pdf
>
> That is a pirated copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd edition, by
> Kernighan and Ritchie. You can get a legitimate copy (paper or
> electronic) from any bookseller.
>
That was first link I hit on search? i didn't know it is pirated,
sorry,,,

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by: Branimir Maksimovic - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:40 UTC

On 2021-10-22, Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/22/2021 11:32 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>>> On 2021-10-22, 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> wrote:
>>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>>
>>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>> http://math.ecnu.edu.cn/[DELETED/.pdf
>>
>> That is a pirated copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd edition, by
>> Kernighan and Ritchie. You can get a legitimate copy (paper or
>> electronic) from any bookseller.
>>
>
> I never even look at these pirated works. The pdf might even have a
> virus in it. ;^o

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by: luser droog - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:03 UTC

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
> hellow i'm new to c lang.
> give me advice or book recomendation.
>
> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee

You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
group like comp.unix.programmer.

You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
actually written a book about it.

But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
Hope that helps.

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On 2021-10-23, luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>
>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>
>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>
> You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
> group like comp.unix.programmer.
>
> You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
> input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
> method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
> And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
> X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
> There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
> xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
> actually written a book about it.
>
> But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
> Hope that helps.

iNobody programs directly with X11 any more. There is GTK
and books are plenty on that :P

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by: luser droog - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:52 UTC

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:17:03 PM UTC-5, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-10-23, luser droog <luser...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
> >> hellow i'm new to c lang.
> >> give me advice or book recomendation.
> >>
> >> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
> >>
> >> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
> >
> > You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
> > group like comp.unix.programmer.
> >
> > You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
> > input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
> > method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
> > And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
> > X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
> > There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
> > xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
> > actually written a book about it.
> >
> > But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
> > Hope that helps.
> iNobody programs directly with X11 any more. There is GTK
> and books are plenty on that :P

Ahh. Well, I'd rather be happy than right any day.

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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>On 2021-10-23, luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>
>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>
>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>
>> You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
>> group like comp.unix.programmer.
>>
>> You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
>> input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
>> method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
>> And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
>> X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
>> There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
>> xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
>> actually written a book about it.
>>
>> But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
>> Hope that helps.
>
>iNobody programs directly with X11 any more.

Demonstrably untrue blanket statement noted.

> There is GTK
>and books are plenty on that.

Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".

Not to mention the handful of simple GUI utilities we use
internally at PPOE.

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On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>>On 2021-10-23, luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
>>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>>
>>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>>
>>> You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
>>> group like comp.unix.programmer.
>>>
>>> You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
>>> input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
>>> method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
>>> And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
>>> X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
>>> There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
>>> xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
>>> actually written a book about it.
>>>
>>> But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>iNobody programs directly with X11 any more.
>
> Demonstrably untrue blanket statement noted.
>

Same as with Microsoft COM. Last book went out of print before 2000 :P

>> There is GTK
>>and books are plenty on that.
>
> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
>
> Not to mention the handful of simple GUI utilities we use
> internally at PPOE.
Qt is not built on top of X11...

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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>>>On 2021-10-23, luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-5, 황병희 wrote:
>>>>> hellow i'm new to c lang.
>>>>> give me advice or book recomendation.
>>>>>
>>>>> i have to make some program input method for korean in Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>>>>
>>>> You might want to also ask in a Linux or Unix programming
>>>> group like comp.unix.programmer.
>>>>
>>>> You will need to learn a little more than just C to program a new
>>>> input method for Linux. I could be wrong, but I believe a new input
>>>> method will hook into the window system via the window manager.
>>>> And the Linux world is perpetually on the verge of jumping ship from
>>>> X11 or xcb. But, last I heard, you'll still need to do it through X11 or xcb.
>>>> There are lots of books on X11 but none of them great that I know of.
>>>> xcb has good online documentation but as far as I know nobody has
>>>> actually written a book about it.
>>>>
>>>> But maybe this much will at least give you some search terms.
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>iNobody programs directly with X11 any more.
>>
>> Demonstrably untrue blanket statement noted.
>>
>
>Same as with Microsoft COM. Last book went out of print before 2000 :P
>
>>> There is GTK
>>>and books are plenty on that.
>>
>> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
>> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
>>
>> Not to mention the handful of simple GUI utilities we use
>> internally at PPOE.
>Qt is not built on top of X11...

I beg to differ.

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On 10/23/21 11:56 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
....
>> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
>> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
....
> Qt is not built on top of X11...

Can you explain what you mean by that comment, taking into consideration
the contents of the following web page?
https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/linux.html

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On 2021-10-25, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> On 10/23/21 11:56 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>> On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> ...
>>> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
>>> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
> ...
>> Qt is not built on top of X11...
>
> Can you explain what you mean by that comment, taking into consideration
> the contents of the following web page?
> https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/linux.html
Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...

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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> writes:
>On 2021-10-25, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> On 10/23/21 11:56 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
>>>> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
>> ...
>>> Qt is not built on top of X11...
>>
>> Can you explain what you mean by that comment, taking into consideration
>> the contents of the following web page?
>> https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/linux.html
>Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...

That doesn't mean it isn't built on top of X11. And QT (Trolltech)
originally targeted Unix systems.

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by: Malcolm McLean - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:59 UTC

On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 14:34:56 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
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> >Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...
> That doesn't mean it isn't built on top of X11. And QT (Trolltech)
> originally targeted Unix systems.
>
It's cross platform. I'd be surprised if it still uses X11 for the Unix build,
XCB has taken over (basically XCB gives you surfaces on which the client
renders using its own code, X11 gives you a graphics context which provides
its own draw routines and fonts).
The Windows build will use the Windows API.

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by: Lew Pitcher - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:02 UTC

On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 06:59:06 -0700, Malcolm McLean wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 14:34:56 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>> >Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...
>> That doesn't mean it isn't built on top of X11. And QT (Trolltech)
>> originally targeted Unix systems.
>>
> It's cross platform. I'd be surprised if it still uses X11 for the Unix build,
> XCB has taken over (basically XCB gives you surfaces on which the client
> renders using its own code, X11 gives you a graphics context which provides
> its own draw routines and fonts).

I'm afraid that you've confused X11 (a networked grapic UI protocol) with
Xlib (a low-level C library that implements an API to manipulate the X11
protocol).

Both XCB and XLib "require X11", in that they both implement APIs that
exclusively converse in the X11 protocol.

> The Windows build will use the Windows API.

--
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"In Skills, We Trust"

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by: Malcolm McLean - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:04 UTC

On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 22:19:44 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
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> >iNobody programs directly with X11 any more.
> Demonstrably untrue blanket statement noted.
>
I wrote Baby X as a lightweight toolkit for X11. I
Whilst I put in a mode which didn't grab the X11 message loop, so it was
possible to add your own X11-specific code alongside the Baby widgets,
I found that I never used it - all the code I wrote interfaced with Baby X,
and then with X11.
This made it possible to create a Windows version of Baby X and port
my Baby X programs.

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by: Malcolm McLean - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:05 UTC

On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 15:02:13 UTC+1, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 06:59:06 -0700, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 14:34:56 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >>
> >> >Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...
> >> That doesn't mean it isn't built on top of X11. And QT (Trolltech)
> >> originally targeted Unix systems.
> >>
> > It's cross platform. I'd be surprised if it still uses X11 for the Unix build,
> > XCB has taken over (basically XCB gives you surfaces on which the client
> > renders using its own code, X11 gives you a graphics context which provides
> > its own draw routines and fonts).
> I'm afraid that you've confused X11 (a networked grapic UI protocol) with
> Xlib (a low-level C library that implements an API to manipulate the X11
> protocol).
>
Oh you're right. xlib is linked via -lX11, which is an excuse.

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by: Lew Pitcher - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:15 UTC

On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:05:59 -0700, Malcolm McLean wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 15:02:13 UTC+1, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 06:59:06 -0700, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 14:34:56 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Qt works on any pplatform unlike GTK which requires X11...
>> >> That doesn't mean it isn't built on top of X11. And QT (Trolltech)
>> >> originally targeted Unix systems.
>> >>
>> > It's cross platform. I'd be surprised if it still uses X11 for the Unix build,
>> > XCB has taken over (basically XCB gives you surfaces on which the client
>> > renders using its own code, X11 gives you a graphics context which provides
>> > its own draw routines and fonts).
>> I'm afraid that you've confused X11 (a networked grapic UI protocol) with
>> Xlib (a low-level C library that implements an API to manipulate the X11
>> protocol).
>>
> Oh you're right. xlib is linked via -lX11, which is an excuse.

libX11 is the name of the library which implementes the Xlib API. Admittedly,
the authors named it poorly, but it /was/ the reference implementation for the
X11 protocol for quite a while.

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Lew Pitcher
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by: Kaz Kylheku - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 06:14 UTC

I find "Qt is not built on top of X11" a plausible statement, not
unlike, say, "your local TCP/IP stack not built upon the Intel
EtherExpress Pro 100 driver."

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by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:21 UTC

Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> writes:
>On 2021-10-25, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> On 10/23/21 11:56 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Of course, GTK and QT are both built _on top of_ X11, and thus
>>>> the GTK/QT team program "directly with X11".
>> ...
>>> Qt is not built on top of X11...
>>
>> Can you explain what you mean by that comment, taking into consideration
>> the contents of the following web page?
>> https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/linux.html
>
>I find "Qt is not built on top of X11" a plausible statement, not
>unlike, say, "your local TCP/IP stack not built upon the Intel
>EtherExpress Pro 100 driver."

Given that Qt development began in 1991, it's completly plausible
to say that "Qt is built on top of X11". Adding support for windows
a decade later doesn't obviate that.

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how learn c?	황병희
Re: how learn c?	Philipp Klaus Krause
Re: how learn c?	황병희
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	Keith Thompson
Re: how learn c?	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: how learn c?	Bart
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	luser droog
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	luser droog
Re: how learn c?	Scott Lurndal
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	Scott Lurndal
Re: how learn c?	James Kuyper
Re: how learn c?	Branimir Maksimovic
Re: how learn c?	Scott Lurndal
Re: how learn c?	Malcolm McLean
Re: how learn c?	Lew Pitcher
Re: how learn c?	Malcolm McLean
Re: how learn c?	Lew Pitcher
Re: how learn c?	Kaz Kylheku
Re: how learn c?	Scott Lurndal
Re: how learn c?	Malcolm McLean

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