On Saturday, 17 August 2019 at 18:28:50 UTC+1, Juergenstein Pelktaske wrote:
> On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 10:19:50 PM UTC-3, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 2:17:09 PM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:19:57 +0100, Alex McDonald <al...@rivadpm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >This is my understanding based on (a) not being there (b) being late to
> > > >Forth and (c) reading up on events and the technology from the distance
> > > >of 20+ years. And it wasn't my intention to speak for Stephen; it's my
> > > >interpretation of his post.
> > > >
> > > >Yes. Effectively because there are different results from words like
> > > >FIND based on STATE because of using different compilation and
> > > >interpretation wordlists to support non-standard compilation semantics;
> > > >and that accommodating it in the standard has left it with a number of
> > > >ugly gubbins and knobules.
> > >
> > > "Ugly gubbins and knobules" is a good summary. It was a bad idea at
> > > the time, and it's still a bad idea to allow FIND or its derivatives
> > > to be state-smart (IMHO). The whole point of an xt was to be a single
> > > point of reference to a word. SYNONYM messed up the one to one mapping
> > > between name and execution. Mea culpa. Then we introduced nts, which
> > > now seem to serve as the single point of reference to the dictionary
> > > header. As ever, some years after we introduce a new word, someone
> > > finds a case which makes the proposer regret the initial proposal.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> >
> > Stephen Pelc considers himself to be the Emperor of Forth
> > and believes that only his mighty intellect is capable of
> > figuring out that it is a bad idea for FIND to return
> > different xt values depending upon STATE at the time FIND executes.
> > Stephen Pelc still hasn't invented disambiguifiers that fix
> > this in ANS-Forth though. He is introducing NTS that is Forth-200x.
> >
> > Stephen Pelc and Alex McDonald remind me of Skipper and Gilligan.
> > They were endlessly trying to get off their island, and they
> > never admitted that it was their own fault for getting shipwrecked.
> Mr. Pelc went down in the Forth ranks after his
> monster Pigta$ke lost the chain, stole his wallet
> and rant the Forth Village with his public insults.
>
> Juergenstein seems to be transplanted with a damaged brain
> of a thief, because he does not stop to rob all free PDF
> Forths and transform into Jef Bezzos bitcoins --> after beying
> fired with all dishonour from MPE, he became
> clerk of the month of Amazon <--
>
> Alec Mc Donald also lost his way, and started imitating the hate speech
> of claiming copyrigh on all free Forths documents,
> as the real assistant of the monster Juergenstein...
>
> All this freaks seems out of a terrible written
> Forth-horror monster movie...

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