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 by: Left Right - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 19:57 UTC

Previously you wrote:

> Here is the discussion referred to:
https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-install-paths-to-in-wheel-file/42005

This illustrates you had no idea what the discussion was about and now
you write:

> Oh trust me, I saw the discussion previously.

Both cannot be true at the same time, unless you had some kind of very
brief memory loss.

> I'm not a lawyer,

Neither am I. All I have to work with is my understanding of the
English language. Here's how I come to my conclusions.

The Python license grants all intellectual rights to Python to PSF (an
American NGO, a.k.a. 501(c) organization), which, essentially, can be
characterized as an organization for public good.

This is what it has to say about itself in its mission statement:

> Mission

> The mission of the Python Software Foundation is to promote, protect,
> and advance the Python programming language, and to support and
> facilitate the growth of a diverse and international community of Python
> programmers.

it also elaborates what it means by "diverse" as follows:

>

Diversity

> The Python Software Foundation and the global Python community
> welcome and encourage participation by everyone. Our community
> is based on mutual respect, tolerance, and encouragement, and we
> are working to help each other live up to these principles. We want
> our community to be more diverse: whoever you are, and whatever
> your background, we welcome you.

My understanding is that "welcome and encourage participation by
everyone" is in stark contradiction to banning someone disagreeing
with you. Note, I haven't offended anyone. I haven't even spoken to
anyone who found themselves being offended. All I did was to describe
in some detail the reasons why some projects endorsed by PyPA are a
bad idea. You, as well as anyone else, are welcome to believe
differently. This is the whole point of diversity allegedly promoted
by PSF. I will think you are wrong, but it's not my place to shut you
up. Neither is it the place of people in charge of the public
discussion of Python or its satellite projects. They are not there to
decide who's right and who gets the stage. Their role is to preserve
the public good, which any discussion about subjects relevant to
Python would be.

What happens, however, and this is the unfortunate fate of popular
projects, is that a small group of people consolidate all means of
control in their hands, and the more control they get, the easier it
is to get even more of it. The natural factor that would prevent this
from happening: the community dissatisfaction with their role becomes
increasingly less powerful as soon as more and more members of the
community come to depend on the good provided by the community.

If this discuss.python.org is representative of the Python community
as a whole, then, unfortunately, it means that the goals PSF set for
it are fading into the distance, rather than becoming more attainable.

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