"Antwrong" Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
> Lynn McGuire:
>
>> ChattyG takes a college freshman C/C++ programming exam
>> https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/03/chatgpt_code_college
>
> By the way, the actual paper does not mention anything
> called ChattyG. The journalist must have used the term
> erroneously.

Incorrect. For reasons that should now be obvious.

Phil
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Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> writes:
> Ben Bacarisse:
>> That "plain text" is 7-but ASCII is a cultural invention,
>> large pushed by people for whom it is adequate.
>
> Yes, it is a huge cultural stample, embraced (at one time)
> by systems and software and people. Hence ASCII-art.

Not just a cultural staple (presuming that's what you intended, "staple"
being a main or important element of something in this context), but
also a convention. However, it's not just that, it's a convention that
was standardised in the very core of a large number of the protocols
that let the modern internet work at all.

Those who have never seen an internet that wasn't a browser or an "app"
will have no understanding of that, and our explanations won't even make
sense to them.

I presume you've seen the video clip of a baby who's clearly familiar
with the swipey interface of a modern tablet utterly confused when
presented with a printed magazine. Paper doesn't zoom with a pinch!

They don't teach cursive writing in many schools nowadays.

Time has moved on.

However, that doesn't mean we have to move where everyone else has moved
to if we don't want to. I'm with Tim's Team Bah Humbug (and thus
appreciate your .sig too).

Phil
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Phil Carmody to Anton Shepelev:

> > Anton Shepelev:
> >
> > > ChattyG takes a college freshman C/C++ programming exam
> > > https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/03/chatgpt_code_college
> >
> > By the way, the actual paper does not mention anything
> > called ChattyG. The journalist must have used the term
> > erroneously.
>
> Incorrect. For reasons that should now be obvious.

No, not to me.

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Phil Carmody:

> I presume you've seen the video clip of a baby who's
> clearly familiar with the swipey interface of a modern
> tablet utterly confused when presented with a printed
> magazine. Paper doesn't zoom with a pinch!

No, but I am well aware how quickly childen learn modern
mobile interfaces. A low entry threshold has serious
drawbacks, though, and they are mercifully exploited by
commercial software.

> They don't teach cursive writing in many schools nowadays.

Especially considering how important /this/ sort of fine
motorics is for early intellectual development. I have got
me a fountain pen, but have not restored my cursive yet.

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Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:

> I'm with Tim's Team Bah Humbug [...]

Thanks Phil. :)

Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
> Phil Carmody to Anton Shepelev:
>> > Anton Shepelev:
>> >
>> > > ChattyG takes a college freshman C/C++ programming exam
>> > > https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/03/chatgpt_code_college
>> >
>> > By the way, the actual paper does not mention anything
>> > called ChattyG. The journalist must have used the term
>> > erroneously.
>>
>> Incorrect. For reasons that should now be obvious.
>
> No, not to me.

Yet you felt the need to edit my post when replying to it.

No entity gets to enforce how other people refer to them.

Phil
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