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* Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtBlue-Maned_Hawk
+- [OT] Mojibake, Was: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtBen Bacarisse
`* Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtLawrence D'Oliveiro
 `* Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtBlue-Maned_Hawk
  `* Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtLawrence D'Oliveiro
   `- Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative soughtBlue-Maned_Hawk

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 by: Blue-Maned_Hawk - Wed, 3 Jan 2024 10:20 UTC

It seems as though, when it comes to text rendering libraries for C, Pango
is “the” way to do it. Unfortunately, Pango is object-oriented. Does
there exist a procedural either wrapper around or alternative to Pango?

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[OT] Mojibake, Was: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought

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From: ben.use...@bsb.me.uk (Ben Bacarisse)
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Subject: [OT] Mojibake, Was: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought
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 by: Ben Bacarisse - Wed, 3 Jan 2024 11:09 UTC

Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:

Your sig is all messed up again. The post advertises UTF-8 as the
encoding and the quotes here:

> is “the” way to do it.

are correctly encoded. But your sig is, I think, the UTF-8 encoding of
the UTF-8 encoding of what you intended.

--
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Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought

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From: ldo...@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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Subject: Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought
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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:14 UTC

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 10:20:06 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

> Unfortunately, Pango is object-oriented. Does
> there exist a procedural either wrapper around or alternative to Pango?

Most “object-oriented” languages are in fact also “procedural”.

The opposite of “procedural” is “functional”.

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 by: Blue-Maned_Hawk - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:14 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Most “object-oriented” languages are in fact also “procedural”.
>
> The opposite of “procedural” is “functional”.

I think that this must be a dialectal difference, because i consider
‘object-oriented’ and ‘procedural’ to be subsets of ‘imperative’, which i
consider to be the opposite of ‘declarative’, of which a subset i consider
‘functional’.

Hopefully this clarifies what i'm looking for here.

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Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:40 UTC

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:14:48 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

> I think that this must be a dialectal difference, because i consider
> ‘object-oriented’ and ‘procedural’ to be subsets of ‘imperative’, which i
> consider to be the opposite of ‘declarative’, of which a subset i consider
> ‘functional’.

“Declarative” is more “rules-based”, possibly implying “not
Turing-equivalent”.

Re: Pango procedural either wrapper or alternative sought

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 by: Blue-Maned_Hawk - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:06 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:14:48 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
>
>> I think that this must be a dialectal difference, because i consider
>> ‘object-oriented’ and ‘procedural’ to be subsets of ‘imperative’, which
>> i consider to be the opposite of ‘declarative’, of which a subset i
>> consider ‘functional’.
>
> “Declarative” is more “rules-based”, possibly implying “not
> Turing-equivalent”.

I consider ‘declarative’ to mean ‘describes the desired final result’ as
opposed to how i consider ‘imperative’ to mean ‘describes what to do to
get the final result’.

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