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* Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.Bernhard Schornak
`* Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.Rosario19
 `* Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.Bernhard Schornak
  `* Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.Mateusz Viste
   `* Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.Bernhard Schornak
    `- Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.T. Ment

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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: Bernhard Schornak
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 05:50 UTC
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From: schor...@web.de (Bernhard Schornak)
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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 07:50:23 +0200
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skybuck2000@hotmail.com wrote:


(...), how can a Corona Patient survive being continuously ventilated with "Corona Air".


Once you are infected, the virus reproduces itself *inside*
your body - you cannot get "surplus infected". The only way
to avoid the impact of CoViD-19 is to *get not infected* by
keeping distance to others and frequently washing hands. If
you were infected, it only depends on the "quality" of your
immune system, how much damage SARS-CoV-2 will deliver.


Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak


Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: Rosario19
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 07:50:23 +0200, Bernhard Schornak wrote:

skybuck2000@hotmail.com wrote:


(...), how can a Corona Patient survive being continuously ventilated with "Corona Air".


Once you are infected, the virus reproduces itself *inside*
your body - you cannot get "surplus infected". The only way
to avoid the impact of CoViD-19 is to *get not infected* by
keeping distance to others and frequently washing hands.

virus in areosol, so evitate place public indoor places
eg stations buses airplanes ecc
-----------
indoor (i dont know outdor)
can remain in sospension in air 3 hour
can follow air, and make travel 10m 100m?
-----------
distance is not sufficent wear the ffpp3 or n99  mask eyes close
protection too when in public

but better is remain in home never exit

If
you were infected, it only depends on the "quality" of your
immune system, how much damage SARS-CoV-2 will deliver.

possible virus hide in nervous cells, possible no himmunity, can
reboot possibly too, to see case reinfection...
this could be the smart/death full son of HIV1

Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak



Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: Bernhard Schornak
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:53 UTC
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From: schor...@web.de (Bernhard Schornak)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:53:11 +0200
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Rosario19 wrote:


On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 07:50:23 +0200, Bernhard Schornak wrote:

skybuck2000@hotmail.com wrote:


(...), how can a Corona Patient survive being continuously ventilated with "Corona Air".


Once you are infected, the virus reproduces itself *inside*
your body - you cannot get "surplus infected". The only way
to avoid the impact of CoViD-19 is to *get not infected* by
keeping distance to others and frequently washing hands.

virus in areosol, so evitate place public indoor places
eg stations buses airplanes ecc
-----------
indoor (i dont know outdor)
can remain in sospension in air 3 hour
can follow air, and make travel 10m 100m?
-----------
distance is not sufficent wear the ffpp3 or n99  mask eyes close
protection too when in public

but better is remain in home never exit

If
you were infected, it only depends on the "quality" of your
immune system, how much damage SARS-CoV-2 will deliver.

possible virus hide in nervous cells, possible no himmunity, can
reboot possibly too, to see case reinfection...
this could be the smart/death full son of HIV1


Agreed in every point, but none of those was my point. Skybuck
claimed "you will get infected by yourself over and over again
through breathing in virii you breathed out with your previous
gasp", which simply is not true. Once you've been infected and
show symptoms, you cannot get "more infected" due to breathing
in SARS-COV-2 virii you breathed out before, 'cause SARS-COV-2
is active inside your body and doesn't need "surplus virii" to
reproduce itself. Either, your immune system can produce anti-
SARS-Cov-2 cells to fight the intruder, then it doesn't matter
how many SARS-Cov-2 virii 'populate' your body, or your immune
system cannot produce antibodies, then you will die.


Stay healthy!

Bernhard


Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: Mateusz Viste
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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
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2020-04-20 at 12:53 +0200, Bernhard Schornak wrote:
Either, your immune system can produce anti-SARS-Cov-2 cells to
fight the intruder, then it doesn't matter how many SARS-Cov-2 virii
'populate' your body, or your immune system cannot produce
antibodies, then you will die.

This is, as far as I understand, only partially true, since in the nCov
context people are apparently dying because of their own immune
response being unnecessarily strong ("cytokine storm"). The subject is
not black and white, and even specialists struggle to understand it. So
again, I'd rather advocate for a 'wait and see' approach, keeping this
asm group quiet on this matter in the meantime.

Mateusz



Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: Bernhard Schornak
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From: schor...@web.de (Bernhard Schornak)
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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 15:17:06 +0200
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Mateusz Viste wrote:


2020-04-20 at 12:53 +0200, Bernhard Schornak wrote:
Either, your immune system can produce anti-SARS-Cov-2 cells to
fight the intruder, then it doesn't matter how many SARS-Cov-2 virii
'populate' your body, or your immune system cannot produce
antibodies, then you will die.

This is, as far as I understand, only partially true, since in the nCov
context people are apparently dying because of their own immune
response being unnecessarily strong ("cytokine storm").


Agreed. But, like Rosario19, you address stuff I never mentioned
and both of you still did not say anything about Skybuck's false
claim I addressed twice. Instead of forcing me to reply to stuff
without relation to what Skybuck or I ever wrote, I had expected
a reply addressing the said and staying with that topic. (As you
should have mentioned, your above 'out of context'-quote was re-
lated to Skybuck's claim that you become 'the more infected' the
longer you are 'exposed to your own breath', which simply is not
true. In the original context, it's besides the point that there
might be *rare* side-effects caused by a few people's own immune
system.)


The subject is not black and white, and even specialists struggle to
understand it.


Agreed. Nevertheless, we shouldn't support conspiracy theories by
ignoring multiple repetitions of definitely false claims. Skybuck
isn't a troll - he is (or at least, he was 'til his recent rants)
an assembler programmer who posted intelligent solutions for many
tasks. It is a pity to watch people walking dangerous paths - and
that's the only reason why I responded to these postings, at all.


So again, I'd rather advocate for a 'wait and see' approach, keeping
this asm group quiet on this matter in the meantime.


Sorry, but a.l.a always was famous for its OT discussions, and it
is quite stupid to leave the field for conspiracy theories of any
kind as long as they are posted by regular posters. I would agree
with you, if Skybuck was just a troll like T. Ment. (I read a.l.a
since 2002...)


Stay healthy!

Bernhard


Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
From: T. Ment
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:31 UTC
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From: t.m...@protocol.invalid (T. Ment)
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Subject: Re: Ventilation equipment kills Corona Patients.
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:31:10 +0000
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 15:17:06 +0200, Bernhard Schornak wrote:

Mateusz Viste wrote:

So again, I'd rather advocate for a 'wait and see' approach, keeping
this asm group quiet on this matter in the meantime.

Sorry, but a.l.a always was famous for its OT discussions

By atheists. Why can't you losers find a chat group.


I would agree with you, if Skybuck was just a troll like T. Ment.

It only seems so to atheists.





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