On 2021-08-03 03:05, Shark8 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 6:29:07 AM UTC-6, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

>> Customers wanting Python will use Eclipse instead of GPS anyway, so that
>> is not an argument either.
> I see the reasoning there, but what basis do you have for such a strong assertion?

There is logic in each madness.

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> That is not the point. The point is that AFAIK it cannot be used for
> scripting unless examples as above provided.

I finally got it. You're right :)

> Though Python is 100% self-inflicted damage. AdaCore could easily
> implement some Ada script, again, not to confuse with shell. They did
it partially with GPR. The GPR compiler could be extended to support a
> larger variety of expressions.

GPR is a great tool. I hope Adacore will go even further in its features.

> Customers wanting Python will use Eclipse instead of GPS anyway, so that
> is not an argument either.

I /fully/ agree.

Le 29/07/2021 à 12:47, Rod Kay a écrit :
> On 29/7/21 11:09 am, Roger Mc wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:25:53 PM UTC+10, roda...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes! I once tried to build it and found similar problems.
>> My attempt also included converting many Python 2 sources to Python 3.
>> I note that you refer to "the main Ada IDE" and I tend to agree.
>> The fact that the causes of the problems are due to "python support
>> files ", including version syncing, causing problems with building
>> "the main Ada IDE" and not Ada can quite possibly give a negative
>> impression for Ada even though Ada is not the culprit.
>> I am currently trying to use VS Code, but find the 2019 CE GPS version
>> preferable.
>>
>
>    I ended up installing the files from 'GNAT/2021/share/gnatstudio' to
>     '/usr/share/gnatstudio' which solved most of the Python2/3
> problems. There is still an issue with auto-indent, when using the TAB
> key, which I've not been able to fix.
>
>    In case it is of use to anyone, here is a link to the Archlinux
> gnat-gps package (which builds ok) ...
>
>                https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnat-gps

Hello,

Though GPS mailing list hasn't been used since March 2017, I propose to
start a thread about sharing experiences in building GNAT Studio:
https://lists.adacore.com/pipermail/gps-devel/2021-August/000237.html

I've sent a first post with some basic questions about used component
versions which are unfortunately not present in INSTALL documentation.

Could please share your experience and component versions on the GPS list?
However, It would be nice to get little support from AdaCore staff.

Thanks, Pascal.

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 5:20:22 PM UTC+10, Stéphane Rivière wrote:
> > That is not the point. The point is that AFAIK it cannot be used for
> > scripting unless examples as above provided.
> I finally got it. You're right :)
> > Though Python is 100% self-inflicted damage. AdaCore could easily
> > implement some Ada script, again, not to confuse with shell. They did
> it partially with GPR. The GPR compiler could be extended to support a
> > larger variety of expressions.
> GPR is a great tool. I hope Adacore will go even further in its features.
> > Customers wanting Python will use Eclipse instead of GPS anyway, so that
> > is not an argument either.
> I /fully/ agree.
But the big problem is that AdaCore uses Python extensively.
So Ada enthusiasts who want to build Ada GPS have to use Python.
Are you suggesting that GPS should be built using Eclipse?

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:58:46 PM UTC+10, Blady wrote:
> Le 29/07/2021 à 12:47, Rod Kay a écrit :
> > On 29/7/21 11:09 am, Roger Mc wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:25:53 PM UTC+10, roda...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes! I once tried to build it and found similar problems.
> >> My attempt also included converting many Python 2 sources to Python 3.
> >> I note that you refer to "the main Ada IDE" and I tend to agree.
> >> The fact that the causes of the problems are due to "python support
> >> files ", including version syncing, causing problems with building
> >> "the main Ada IDE" and not Ada can quite possibly give a negative
> >> impression for Ada even though Ada is not the culprit.
> >> I am currently trying to use VS Code, but find the 2019 CE GPS version
> >> preferable.
> >>
> >
> > I ended up installing the files from 'GNAT/2021/share/gnatstudio' to
> > '/usr/share/gnatstudio' which solved most of the Python2/3
> > problems. There is still an issue with auto-indent, when using the TAB
> > key, which I've not been able to fix.
> >
> > In case it is of use to anyone, here is a link to the Archlinux
> > gnat-gps package (which builds ok) ...
> >
> > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnat-gps
> Hello,
>
> Though GPS mailing list hasn't been used since March 2017, I propose to
> start a thread about sharing experiences in building GNAT Studio:
> https://lists.adacore.com/pipermail/gps-devel/2021-August/000237.html
>
> I've sent a first post with some basic questions about used component
> versions which are unfortunately not present in INSTALL documentation.
>
> Could please share your experience and component versions on the GPS list?
> However, It would be nice to get little support from AdaCore staff.
>
> Thanks, Pascal.

Mac Safari complains that this list's website is insecure.

On 8/28/21 2:10 AM, Roger Mc wrote:
>
> Mac Safari complains that this list's website is insecure.

This "list" is a newsgroup. It doesn't have a website.

There are websites that allow reading and posting to newsgroups, such as Google
Groups, but they are not the only nor the best way to do so. Google Groups, for
example, ignores formatting of code in posts.

It may be preferable to use a news reader rather than such a website. I use
Thunderbird (https://www.thunderbird.net/) with Eternal September
(http://www.eternal-september.org/).

--
Jeff Carter
"What's the amount of the insult?"
Never Give a Sucker an Even Break
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On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:40:54 PM UTC+10, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> On 8/28/21 2:10 AM, Roger Mc wrote:
> >
> > Mac Safari complains that this list's website is insecure.
> This "list" is a newsgroup. It doesn't have a website.
>
> There are websites that allow reading and posting to newsgroups, such as Google
> Groups, but they are not the only nor the best way to do so. Google Groups, for
> example, ignores formatting of code in posts.
>
> It may be preferable to use a news reader rather than such a website. I use
> Thunderbird (https://www.thunderbird.net/) with Eternal September
> (http://www.eternal-september.org/).
>
> --
> Jeff Carter
> "What's the amount of the insult?"
> Never Give a Sucker an Even Break
> 104
I'm a bit confused then.
What is https://lists.adacore.com/pipermail/gps-devel/2021-August/000237.html
which is what Safari responds to if its not a "website"?
Sorry if this is off topic.

Roger Mc <rogermcm2@gmail.com> writes:

> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:40:54 PM UTC+10, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
>> On 8/28/21 2:10 AM, Roger Mc wrote:
>> >
>> > Mac Safari complains that this list's website is insecure.
>> This "list" is a newsgroup. It doesn't have a website.

I suppose that if you had but world enough and time you might have said
*that* website!!!!

On 8/28/21 9:16 AM, Roger Mc wrote:
> I'm a bit confused then.
> What is https://lists.adacore.com/pipermail/gps-devel/2021-August/000237.html
> which is what Safari responds to if its not a "website"?

Oh, that list. Sorry, I misunderstood. Since you had not edited a full screen of
quoted text, I didn't bother to read what you were responding to.

--
Jeff Carter
"What's the amount of the insult?"
Never Give a Sucker an Even Break
104