On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 08:55:19 UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 22:37:54 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
> > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 10:48:44 AM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:10:22 -0700 (PDT), hughag...@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I think that Juergen Pintaske is still employed at MPE as a salesman.
> > > > >Stephen Pelc has never said that Juergen Pintaske is not still employed
> > > > >at MPE,
> > > >
> > > > Juergen left MPE about six month ago. He no longer works for MPE.
> > > Why tell me, but not tell Tom Hart?
> > > When I visited in September of 2019, Tom Hart told me that
> > > Juergen Pintaske was employed at MPE.
> > >
> > > I think that Tom Hart believed that MPE was considering buying
> > > the Testra processor, and that he needed to attack me on comp.lang.forth
> > > to make Juergen Pintaske (MPE salesman) happy. This is the "business"
> > > between MPE and Testra that Juergen Pintaske mentioned earlier in this thread.
> > > This business never came to anything though --- you were just tugging
> > > on Tom Hart's chain --- got him excited for nothing!
> > > > I'm not going to comment on Hugh's fantasies.
> > > >
> > > > I'm busy writing new products.
> > > Stephen Pelc's idea of a "new product" is to do a "clean-room implementation"
> > > (reverse engineering) of somebody else's product.
> > > He doesn't do his own R&D. He gets somebody else's R&D without paying for it.
> > >
> > > On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 10:46:03 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Stephen Pelc also says this on his website:
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > The RTXcore is a VHDL clean-room implementation of the
> > > > Intersil RTX-2000 for FPGAs. It runs the same instruction set,
> > > > but twice as fast on a Xilinx Spartan. An an on-chip UART as well as
> > > > the original peripherals are provided.
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Stephen Pelc wants the Forthers of the world to believe that he is
> > > > the master of soft-core Forth processors. He did a
> > > > "clean-room implementation of the Intersil RTX-2000," meaning that
> > > > he didn't pay Intersil for their design. He got the R&D done for free
> > > > using the same "clean-room implementation" technique that Red China uses.
> > > > The RTX-2000 was actually not competitive with the MiniForth in 1994,
> > > > and Stephen Pelc's "twice as fast" version isn't competitive with the
> > > > RACE today, which is several times faster than the MiniForth of 1994.
> > > > Stephen Pelc can't compete with Testra on a technical basis, so he
> > > > instead strives to drag Testra through the mud on comp.lang.forth.
> >
> > I don't believe Stephen Pelc at all when he says:
> > "Juergen left MPE about six month ago. He no longer works for MPE."
> > Juergen Pintaske continues to sell his book: "A Start with Forth."
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073NMX1XP/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i3
> > This book is essentially an over-grown sales brochure for VFX from MPE.
> > Juergen Pintaske is still selling VFX for Stephen Pelc at MPE!
> > Also, as I said, Tom Hart believed that Juergen Pintaske was still employed
> > by MPE, which is why he responded so enthusiastically to Juergen's request
> > that he denounce me --- Tom Hart believed that he needed to brown-nose Juergen Pintaske
> > to sell the Testra processor to Stephen Pelc, but then he failed to make the sale ---
> > why would Tom Hart believe that Juergen Pintaske was Stephen Pelc's employee
> > except that Stephen Pelc told him this?
> >
> > Juergen Pintaske continues to attack me on comp.lang.forth, saying that I
> > didn't write MFX (assembler, simulator and Forth cross-compiler) at Testra.
> > What is Juergen's motive, other than basic meanness?
> > I think Juergen still works for MPE and his job is to attack MPE's competitors,
> > which primarily include Testra --- so he says that MFX, which is still used by Testra,
> > was written by an incompetent who got fired afterward --- implying that MFX is crap.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/VneJx1NnLu8
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:57:43 AM UTC-7, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 at 16:45:42 UTC, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
> > > > > Tom Hart seems to not realize that by saying that I'm incompetent
> > > > > he is actually discrediting MFX --- I wrote MFX, so if I'm incompetent,
> > > > > what does that say about Testra's MiniForth/RACE processor
> > > > > that uses MFX as the development system? Many Verilog programmers
> > > > > (Ilya Tarasov, for example), have said that developing the FPGA
> > > > > is only half the battle, but the assembler/compiler is the other half.
> > > > > Testra continues to use MFX today, 25 years after I wrote it,
> > > > > so if I'm incompetent why didn't they rewrite it during those decades?
> > > > > Tom Hart, who is not a programmer, will say that MFX is a trivial
> > > > > assembler and cross-compiler, but if it is trivial to write then why
> > > > > did they need to hire outside help rather than do it in-house?
> > > > > MFX is an accomplishment that I'm still proud of 25 years later!
> > > > > I have never heard of anybody who has a comparable accomplishment..
> > > LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
> >
> > On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:12:57 AM UTC-7, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > IF you wrote MFX and how much of it I do not care
> > > - neither does the rest of the Forth community I assume.
> > > It is internal to Testra.
> > >
> > > Do not forget,
> > > they fired you as Testra stated somewhere here
> > > when I asked them about your capabilities as of the agression you show here..
> >
> > Testra continues to use MFX (they have kept UR/Forth going for 25 years after LMI
> > went out of business so MFX would keep going). Because of this, Testra will continue
> > to look foolish as Juergen Pintaske continues to attack MFX on comp.lang.forth.
> > This is Tom Hart's fault. This is not my fault, as I said that MFX was something
> > that I was proud of --- Tom Hart could have just let me be proud of my accomplishment ---
> > instead he wanted all of the glory for Testra and none for me, but instead of obtaining glory
> > he brought disgrace and shame down upon Testra by publicly embracing the pig Pintaske.
> >
> > Tom Hart deserves Juergen Pintaske --- Tom Hart empowered Juergen Pintaske to attack me
> > in regard to MFX, and Juergen Pintaske will never stop doing so --- this is Tom Hart's fault.
> > Tom Hart will spend the rest of his life being embarrassed by Juergen Pintaske saying that
> > MFX was written by an incompetent who got fired as a result --- this will never end.
> You can pour your shit over Forth and the people here as much as you like,
> it will not change how disgusting you are and the picture you create about yourself.
>
> You document your own bullshit, lies and made-ups very nicely.
> It is just unfortunate that many have given up to check what is happening here as result of your rants.
>
> FORTHKILLER HUCK AQUILUX ACTIVE AGAIN.
>
> And your Dementia is very visible now, as you cannot even get the basic facts right anymore:
>
> I was never an employee of MPE.
>
> I did part time consulting for MPE for about 5 years as stated at MPE:
>
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>
> Juergen Pintaske
> Juergen is our marketing and sales person
> promoting MPE Forth and MPE Consultancy Services.
> jue...@exemark.com
> Speaks German, English and French.
>
> Juergen's electronics career started young at 12, with his first radio, 80m receiver and amplifier.
> Years later, after his Dipl.-Ing. in telecoms, electricity sensors were in
> - not the normal stuff but for up to 100kV or 500A, and the first CMOS micro.
> Then application engineering at RCA in Brussels, then Germany again.
> The first Forth activity was a custom micro running Forth in an FPGA.
> Finally a move to the UK, for Marketing, PR, translation,
> then went back into sales for 10 years.
>
> In his spare time, Juergen writes and publishes eBooks about electronics and software topics
> including Forth, see links on this website from the books page.
>
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>
> The book you mention has nothing to do with MPE as it shos my name
> Shows again how little you care about the facts.
>
> You do not even read what is shown on amazon
> I collected Bits and Bytes from many in the Forth community and edited it into a book to share their knowledge.
>
> And as well all know,
> my Forth Bookshelf as well as the Forth you complain about will live a lot longer than you and me.
>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Juergen-Pintaske/e/B00N8HVEZM
>
> Have a nice day.

And regarding TESTRA it might be necessary to repeat here how it started.

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And why Hugh Aguilar is as frustrated as we have seen here
over the last 10 to 20 years.

He has been agressive for so many years here,
and at least we now know that

he has been fired from TESTRA after about one year there.

It seems he is intelligent,
so why has there not more been produced since then?

This is for others to discuss.
Beyond my knowledge regarding Forth Programming.

As I had stated here before,,
I would ask after so many accusations

TESTRA directly, as I know them, and

as they are always used as such a brilliant work experience.

The official answer from Tom Hart, their president,
who agreed to have his answer published on clf:

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Hi Juergen,

Nice to hear from you. I was going to answer your prior Email, but got busy..

Some answers regarding your questions:

Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was

-----I did not go back and look at the payroll records,
-----but to my recollection it was on the order of a year or so.

Or if he was just a contractor/consultant

-----Maybe at the beginning.

How long this working relationship lasted

-----As I stated, maybe a year or so.

Why your relationship ceased,

-----He was difficult to work with.
-----He did find if it was something he could do by himself without supervision,
-----but if it was a team effort, forget it.

-----I let him go myself,
-----after I had given him a project to write a DXF converter to HPGL code.
-----He would not take any direction.
-----I scrapped the project.

and what he really achieved at TESTRA??

-----He wrote our Forth compiler for the processor
-----that we implemented in a Lattice PLD.

-----He did a good job on it,
-----we are still using it with a few bug fixes and minor modifications.

-----He had nothing to do with the processor itself,
-----that was all designed by John Hart and Steve Brault.

-----The PLD version was based upon our original Forth Engine done long before we ever ran across Hugh.

-----In summary,

----------Hugh is very intelligent, very knowledgeable about Forth,
----------but is not really a team player.

-----Sounds like the Forth community has some problems with non team players.

-----You can quote me, but it has to be all or none of the above!

Thomas W. Hart, Jr.
President
Testra Corporation
1201 N Stadem Drive
Tempe AZ 85281
tom...@testra.com
www.testra.com
(480)560-6141 cell
(480)966-8428 office
(480)966-7215 fax

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and for completeness the email I had sent to TESTRA and I had posted here somewhere before I had sent it:

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Regarding: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/9IHvRJmMn20

Dear Tom,

We have not spoken for a while.

This email is not really regarding business now, but trying to put the history right.
Regarding Testra and regarding Hugh Aguilar.

Hugh Aguilar basically says for years here on clf. that he has basically invented the MFX processor of Testra,
And the software that basically runs the company TESTRA.

I do not mind if this were true, but I really doubt it,
as now – over probably 10 or 20 years -
Not much has been published/ posted by him as far as I have seen;

– rather than these insults and telling other people are liars and worse
– actually everybody who has a different opinion.

According to his info he gave here,
he now drives taxis or tractors for a living.
No reference to any programming.

See his last post from Comp Lang Forth; this triggered this email to Testra:

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:
> EuroForth 2019 will be held in Hamburg, Germany on September 13-15.
>
> The deadline for the academic stream (refereed) papers is June 30. So
> now is the time to write up your research to have it ready by the
> deadline. For industrial (non-refereed) papers the deadline is August
> 31.

I have been reading some "inspiring Mark Twain quotes on life"
http://www.quoteambition.com/inspiring-mark-twain-quotes-life/

This quote should be very inspiring for the EuroForth writers:
“Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.”

Anton Ertl is the referee for the "academic" papers.
He and Bernd Paysan wrote a refereed paper for EuroForth-2018
that had no purpose except to attack the rquotations.
They lied when they said:
"the higher-order word that calls the rquotation must not use locals."

AFAIK, Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan are lying about the rquotations
as a service to Stephen Pelc who will later "invent" rquotations
or something similar as a proprietary VFX feature
Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan don't believe that the Forthers
are worthy of being given rquotations for free, but instead believe
that Forthers must pay Stephen Pelc for this feature.

> The call for papers including submission instructions can be found on
> <http://www.euroforth.org/ef19/cfp.html>.

The actual "submission instructions" EuroForth aspirants need,
are obtained by getting on your knees and asking Stephen Pelc.
You may be told to attack my code by lying about it.
You may be told to not invent useful Forth features that
Stephen Pelc plans on inventing later as proprietary VFX features.
You may be told to not write any working Forth code, but instead
to submit vague dreams about what it would be like to write
working Forth code (as Peter Knaggs and Andrew Haley did).

Ultimately, everybody who goes to EuroForth will dishonor themselves
with blatant lying and purposeful ignorance.

Such and worse posts come on a daily / weekly basis as you can verify yourself.
I have been a target myself as well.

Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was
Or if he was just a contractor/consultant
How long this working relationship lasted
Why your relationship ceased,
and what he really achieved at TESTRA??

Some partial answers would be very helpful already.

Just to make it clear:

I have no business relationship with MPE anymore so this is a purely private activity.

But as it makes me sick how he behaves on clf,

It was worth at least trying to find out and write this email,

to find out

if what he states about your relationship is true and his software runs or did run TESTRA
or if this can be put right.

This email sent to you has been published as is on clf as well.

Please mark in your answer to me,
which part of your answer I can quote.

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind regards
Juergen

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