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Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp

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From: Retro ...@rslight.i2p (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 10:28 UTC
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 by: Retro Guy - Mon, 18 May 2020 10:28 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> i guess the best would be to insert the function to post to vichan in spoolnews.php, function get_articles line 233 and following. all the data from the current message is nicely parsed at this point and can just be forwarded to vichan.

These are the variables that contain the data for these requests in
spoolnews.php (function get_articles) near where you specified:

$_GET['Newsgroups'] = $group
$_GET['Message-Id'] = $mid[1]
$_GET['References'] = $references (all of them)
$_GET['Date'] = $finddate[1] is a date string from the message
$article_date is a unix timestamp of same date
$_GET['Content-Type'] = not currently extracted in spoolnews, but can be
$_GET['Subject'] = $subject[1]
$_GET['From'] = $from[1]
$_GET['X_Sage'] = I'm guessing this header won't be in messages sent to vichan
unless from another vichan instance

Do you want to switch to a POST request? Since GET has length restrictions, it
might be best, but requres changes in vichan (post.php)

Retro Guy
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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:26 UTC
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 by: anonymous - Mon, 18 May 2020 12:26 UTC

thanks for digging that out.
x-sage is vichan specific and can be omitted.

i decided to try the GET method first, just to test quickly if this would work.
after that i guess it must be post (unless i figure how to put the message and attachments in the GET request body).
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From: anonym...@anon.com (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 23:16 UTC
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 by: anonymous - Wed, 20 May 2020 23:16 UTC

ok, will skip the testing bullshit and get right to POST method. i could cut post.php to some 730 lines that are needed for this, out of which i need to modify some 13 lines to read POST instead of GET. Then will use something like this here:
https://www.codexworld.com/post-receive-json-data-using-php-curl/
to send over the data. so this means b64 encoding for the attachments.

i checked some sources now, and while it is technically feasible to put large texts and files into GET request bodies, it goes against all standards and almost everybody advised against it. never mind that a GET request per definition should have not have any impact on the servers state.
so i really wonder why it was designed like that. maybe there is some sneaky scheme here that i just don't get :-).

i also dug out the old sources of nntp chan (which was a little tricky), and checked the way they do it. but to my surprise all i could find was the nntp way of exchanging messages (so between two nntp instances), but not the way that is implemented in vichan, using http.

well never mind, i will hack that into shape, i think. :-)
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From: Retro ...@rslight.i2p (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 08:50 UTC
Organization: Rocksolid Light
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 by: Retro Guy - Thu, 21 May 2020 08:50 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> i also dug out the old sources of nntp chan (which was a little tricky), and checked the way they do it. but to my surprise all i could find was the nntp way of exchanging messages (so between two nntp instances), but not the way that is implemented in vichan, using http.

If you plan to run vichan as dependent on the rslight nntp server, you would have a news server local that you could talk to. rslight would be the "other" nntp instance. Is that of any value?

This is how rslight works. Newsportal could only send/receive from a nntp server, so now it sends/receives from it's own built in nntp server, but the code for the interface is really just talking to any nntp server, I just happen to have placed one on the same machine. That's why you can run it without the built in server, and it doesn't know the difference (it's just way slower).

> well never mind, i will hack that into shape, i think. :-)

Good luck! We're all counting on you! (movie quote, lol)

Retro Guy
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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 19:04 UTC
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 by: anonymous - Thu, 21 May 2020 19:04 UTC

ok, i did a proof of concept for posting, this works. in the end i skipped the webserver and stuff with curl, and just handed over the message as a file which the modified post.php parses (json encoded). so far so good. as long as both nntp server and vichan run on the same machine, this is a viable solution.

now for the files (so far it is text only).

cheers

trw
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 by: anonymous - Thu, 21 May 2020 19:20 UTC

>If you plan to run vichan as dependent on the rslight nntp server,

Yes, that is the plan. And I would also keep rslight running on the tor side.

> you would have a news server local that you could talk to. rslight would be the "other" nntp instance. Is that of any value?

Yes, absolutely. Right now the syncing from vichan to the news server works by just dropping the message in the outspool. Works well, and will most like stay that way.
The original way (for which I only have half the code from the vichan sources) worked based on ip addresses, which is not good in my case anyway.
The other way round (so from rslight to vichan) will work like I described in the message before, there is just no need for any complicated constructs if both applications are running on the same machine.

The nntp to nntp connection to update vichan is something I would not use if I have easier ways, and it seems I do (I leave it to rslight, and just read and write files).
So eventually this mod for vichan would be a plugin to an rslight installation.

And about forking: I guess that is little heavy for me, but I will upload my mods somewhere eventually (once this it is done well enough to see the light of day, so a little down the road).

cheers

trw
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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
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 by: Retro Guy - Fri, 22 May 2020 08:40 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> The nntp to nntp connection to update vichan is something I would not use if I have easier ways, and it seems I do (I leave it to rslight, and just read and write files).
> So eventually this mod for vichan would be a plugin to an rslight installation.

So if I understand correctly, vichan will read a message from a file and apply it to it's database. If that is correct, how will vichan know the file exists, will it poll a directory?

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 by: anon - Fri, 22 May 2020 10:11 UTC

>So if I understand correctly, vichan will read a message from a file and apply it to it's database. If that is correct, how will vichan know the file exists, will it poll a directory?

that's correct. i was planning to call the vichan script from rslight in case of updates (guess from spoolnews).

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
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 by: Retro Guy - Fri, 22 May 2020 09:24 UTC

anon wrote:

>>So if I understand correctly, vichan will read a message from a file and apply it to it's database. If that is correct, how will vichan know the file exists, will it poll a directory?

> that's correct. i was planning to call the vichan script from rslight in case of updates (guess from spoolnews).

> Posted on def4

If you are reading each message as a file, would it work for rslight to just send vichan basically the equivalent of what you saw in /var/spool/rslight/rocksolid/local_groups.txt:
rocksolid.nodes:158
rocksolid.nodes.help:53
etc...

This could tell vichan where rslight has set message pointers and vichan can keep it's own list, then it can go pull the articles it doesn't have and update it's pointer list. If the pointers all match, there are no articles to import.

Is this idea of any use?

Retro Guy

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 by: anonymous - Fri, 22 May 2020 10:46 UTC

Yes, that approach could work as well. The downside would be that you would have to parse the messages again, while spoolnews is doing that already. Think I'd rather hand something very simple to vichan from the spoolnews script, like this:
{
"Newsgroups": "rocksolid.shared.test",
"Message-ID": "<83434435e73f113dcce2d23d237b6237$1@z5bqfv5v75kxy7pj.onion>",
"References": "",
"Date": "Thu, 14 May 2020 16:16 UTC",
"Subject": "nother post",
"From": "anonymous@anon.com (anonymous)",
"Content-Type": "text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed",
"Content": "This is a test text"
} It is way easier to just do json_decode and have all the values, than to parse the files from the spool (this somewhat messy part is already taken care of, so I would not like to do it again).
Of course it is just a question of taste where the code should reside, at rslight or at vichan.

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 by: anonymous - Fri, 22 May 2020 19:24 UTC

ok, that was easy, i took message_read and put all articles into something like this:

{
"header": {
"number": 100,
"id": "<96042908114f73b92a4b25ecaf31371d@def4>",
"from": "anon@anon.com",
"name": "anon",
"subject": "Re: sync trest def2",
"newsgroups": "rocksolid.shared.test",
"followup": null,
"date": 1589462807,
"date_thread": null,
"organization": "def5",
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"<46f0e0c1993dc510ec8653ac72cb4445$1@z5bqfv5v75kxy7pj.onion>"
],
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],
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"unnamed"
],
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],
"answers": null,
"isAnswer": false,
"username": "anon",
"user_agent": null,
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"threadsize": null
},
"body": [
"nok, seen on def4nnPosted on def4n"
]
}

that is the json encoded array that you get when you typecaste the object that message_read returns.
now i only read this into my import routine from vichan.

right now i work on a batch import function, and try to wrap my head around some of the details of vichan (which is harder for me than it probably sounds). :-)

cheers

trw
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 by: anonymous - Fri, 22 May 2020 20:53 UTC

ok, i got a kind of lame import routine working (lame because it has to be called per message). but at least it works. got all the boards created too.

cheers

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 by: anonymous - Fri, 22 May 2020 21:50 UTC

one thing vichan is clearly not prepared to do is to deal with replies to (yet) non existing messages. so no automagic fixing of threads or anything, like ff does.
so the options are: either delete the reference and import such message as a new thread start, or refuse to take it.
the second one looks cleaner to me, and gives the chance to later try it again, so I guess I will opt for this one.
In any event, vichan is sensitive here (should not be a problem once the thing is steadily updated).
Another thing I am contemplating is how many messages to keep. By design I think it keeps 100 messages per board (or something like that), and after starts to delete the oldest ones.
Would be different from the rest of the nodes, which keep the messages forever. Of course, that could be done with vichan as well. But I kind of like the idea of a volatile message base on one of the nodes.

What do you think, Retro ?

cheers

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 by: Retro Guy - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:17 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> one thing vichan is clearly not prepared to do is to deal with replies to (yet) non existing messages. so no automagic fixing of threads or anything, like ff does.
> so the options are: either delete the reference and import such message as a new thread start, or refuse to take it.
> the second one looks cleaner to me, and gives the chance to later try it again, so I guess I will opt for this one.

Do you mean put the message into some holding location and try again in the future to apply it to vichan's database of articles? One thing you can do is grep overview for the message-id of the referenced article. If the server has it, it will be in overview and you can find it. Every group containing articles has a groupname-overview (rocksolid.nodes-overview). Reading this file, you can crossreference message-id to article number, etc. It is tab separated:
160 Re: ddos defense for novabbs.com anonymous@anon.com (anonymous) Fri, 22 May 2020 10:50 UTC <e4cfbed07f97837a031302573d5ebefc$1@z5bqfv5v75kxy7pj.onion> <733615c1436ceffa04cd2d7eb3ec2546$1@news.novabbs.com> <f0ba1870346ce5f36eb9365850311bf7$1@z5bqfv5v75kxy7pj.onion> <715287e8bd4cc83e628a4e69ce6bd304$1@news.novabbs.com> 1709 12 Xref: debiantest rocksolid.nodes:160

> In any event, vichan is sensitive here (should not be a problem once the thing is steadily updated).
> Another thing I am contemplating is how many messages to keep. By design I think it keeps 100 messages per board (or something like that), and after starts to delete the oldest ones.
> Would be different from the rest of the nodes, which keep the messages forever. Of course, that could be done with vichan as well. But I kind of like the idea of a volatile message base on one of the nodes.

> What do you think, Retro ?

Expiring my count of messages is nicer than by date, so a group never becomes empty. This is also what Synchronet does and it works well. I like it.

Retro Guy

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 by: anonymous - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:34 UTC

>Do you mean put the message into some holding location and try again in the future to apply it to vichan's database of articles?

Yes, this is more or less what I meant.

>One thing you can do is grep overview for the message-id of the referenced article.

I used message_read for now, and made one new file to follow the status of the exports. Actually, this kind of thing would be better done in one of the existing code bases, this was just the fastest way for me to test the concept.

The code lines below export any new message that is found into a format that is translated later in the new post.php of vichan.

So I guess I could call this script at the end of spoolnews (or maybe just insert it).

On the other end, I have a modified post.php, which reads the oldest message (by name) and imports it. I could not modify it in a way yet that would allow to cycle through all existing messages, so the whole setup is just an interim solution yet (but it is importing the messages right now).

later more,

trw

<?php

include "config.inc.php";
include "$file_newsportal";
include 'message.inc.php';

$groups = array(
'rocksolid.nodes',
'rocksolid.nodes.help',
'rocksolid.nodes.announce',
'rocksolid.shared.encryption',
'rocksolid.shared.entertainment',
'rocksolid.shared.freenet',
'rocksolid.shared.general',
'rocksolid.shared.hacking',
'rocksolid.shared.helpdesk',
'rocksolid.shared.i2p',
'rocksolid.shared.linux',
'rocksolid.shared.news',
'rocksolid.shared.offtopic',
'rocksolid.programming',
'rocksolid.shared.rocksolid',
'rocksolid.shared.security',
'rocksolid.social',
'rocksolid.shared.test',
'rocksolid.shared.tor',
);
$watermarks = json_decode(file_get_contents('watermarks.json'), true);
$update = false;
foreach($groups as $group){
echo($group . "nr");
for ($i = 0; $i < 1000; $i++){
if(!in_array($i,$watermarks[$group])){
$message = message_read($i, 0, $group);
if($message){
echo("processing message # " . $i . " from group " . $group . "nr");
$paddedI = str_pad($i, 5, '0', STR_PAD_LEFT);
$jsonFile = fopen('/var/www/html/vi/vichan-master/debug/' . $paddedI . '_' . $group . '.json', 'w');
fwrite($jsonFile, json_encode((array) $message, JSON_PRETTY_PRINT | JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES));
fclose($jsonFile);
array_push($watermarks[$group],$i);
$update = true;
}
}
}
} if($update){
echo("saving updated watermarksnr");
$jsonWatermarks = fopen('watermarks.json', 'w');
fwrite($jsonWatermarks, json_encode((array) $watermarks, JSON_PRETTY_PRINT | JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES));
fclose($jsonWatermarks);
} else {
echo("no new files foundnr");
} exit;
?>

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 by: anonymous - Sat, 23 May 2020 21:33 UTC

so, i have got it basically running, so messages gets synced to and from vichan. it is still sort of clumsy right now...
the fields "date" and "from" are not acknowledged for some reason, so posts get the timestamp of the import, and are "forced anonymous". guess i can live with both, but will try to get it done right.
the work is a bit tedious, but will be definitely be worth it in the end. vichan is super easy to configure, modify, moderate, and it is just looking very nice (still playing with all the css that come with it, but will most likely stay on the dark one).

the main challenge to modify the code from vichan and run it differently seems to be that the context changes depending on how the scripts are run, and in most cases this lets any file inclusions fail (calling from the cli works as well as calling from the webserver, but running it from another script fails, even if the directory is changed).

cheers

trw
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 by: anonymous - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:12 UTC

>> Do you mean put the message into some holding location and try again in >>the future to apply it to vichan's database of articles?
>Yes, this is more or less what I meant.

Tried that one, and for sure it did not work. Either a message which was rejected once is not considered anymore, or there is some serious issue with the references.
While the first would not be an issue for new threads, the second one would require some coding to rewrite the references (shudder...).
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 by: Retro Guy - Sun, 24 May 2020 00:51 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> so, i have got it basically running, so messages gets synced to and from vichan. it is still sort of clumsy right now...
> the fields "date" and "from" are not acknowledged for some reason, so posts get the timestamp of the import, and are "forced anonymous". guess i can live with both, but will try to get it done right.

Did you change something since you wrote the above? I'm seeing usernames in r.s.test starting with this post:
Re: Does this encryption thing work ? Retro Guy@rslight.i2p 05/23/20 (Sat) 23:29:02 No.141

> the work is a bit tedious, but will be definitely be worth it in the end. vichan is super easy to configure, modify, moderate, and it is just looking very nice (still playing with all the css that come with it, but will most likely stay on the dark one).

It is looking great!

Retro Guy

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 by: Retro Guy - Sun, 24 May 2020 00:57 UTC

anonymous wrote:

>>One thing you can do is grep overview for the message-id of the referenced article.

> I used message_read for now, and made one new file to follow the status of the exports. Actually, this kind of thing would be better done in one of the existing code bases, this was just the fastest way for me to test the concept.

Same as the way I test. I just write a test script and get it working, then apply to existing codebase. Much easier to not break existing code that way.

> The code lines below export any new message that is found into a format that is translated later in the new post.php of vichan.

> So I guess I could call this script at the end of spoolnews (or maybe just insert it).

What I'd like to see, if it's possible, is calling from spoolnews. We just put an $enable_vichan variable in config so if using vichan it will run the code and send the data needed by vichan. If disabled, it does nothing.

> On the other end, I have a modified post.php, which reads the oldest message (by name) and imports it. I could not modify it in a way yet that would allow to cycle through all existing messages, so the whole setup is just an interim solution yet (but it is importing the messages right now).

Since spoolnews loops through every message that it imports, it should work to just make the call to format and send to vichan in that loop. Every message rslight decides it wants (let rslight determine if a message is new or already existing), will then get sent to vichan. Thoughts?

Retro Guy

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 by: anonymous - Sun, 24 May 2020 11:23 UTC

>Since spoolnews loops through every message that it imports, it should work to just make the call to format and send to vichan in that loop. Every message rslight decides it wants (let rslight determine if a message is new or already existing), will then get sent to vichan. Thoughts?

Yes, that is the right approach imo. I just need to dig out the id of the message that started the thread before I can send it, and insert it as the first reference.

The usernames in the messages where easy to switch on.
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 by: anon - Sun, 24 May 2020 16:22 UTC

to dig out the thread starting message, this code should do it, right ? (from article-flat.php):

if($message) {
// load thread-data and get IDs of the actual subthread
$thread=thread_load($group);
$subthread=thread_getsubthreadids($message->header->id,$thread);
if($thread_articles == false) {
sort($subthread);
}

trw

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 by: anonymous - Sun, 24 May 2020 21:23 UTC

I did my own code to do the threading like vichan expects it, wasn't so hard after all (one recursive function, basically).
I just redo the message import, still get mistakes, but a lot less. seems more and more usable. If only I knew what vichan is expecting exactly as a date (this is the last (obvious) thing to solve).

cheers

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 by: anon - Sun, 24 May 2020 23:38 UTC

>If only I knew what vichan is expecting exactly as a date (this is the last (obvious) thing to solve).

Turns out that it expected what I had been trying at the very start: a unix timestamp. ...it just doesn't respect it !
So for some reason the date of the import is always displayed as the messages time, no matter what the original time is... which is no problem if updates happen in timely manner, but for rebuilding an existing message base it is not so good (at least one context of the messages is gone).
guess the image boards have always been fixated on short term, low latency interaction...

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 by: anonymous - Mon, 25 May 2020 21:49 UTC

had to rewrite the re-indexing code due to some bugs, this is the data exchange format I use now:

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"<04a2efaf39f90b7fd445b3d34b04e849$1@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com>": {
"parents": [
"<5fa5f7ef9a71f09f4a486c3d579083bf@def4.com>",
"<fb56c3093f6c0f918ca58cd34ad42065@def4.com>",
"<prlg96$jgf$1@def3.retrobbs.com>"
],
"op": false,
"ref": "<prlg96$jgf$1@def3.retrobbs.com>",
"ref_org": "<5fa5f7ef9a71f09f4a486c3d579083bf@def4.com>",
"solved": true
},
"<d11adec78757e4dad3e4b7d2f46880f5$1@dkzerogt6z6ybhcj.onion>": {
"parents": [],
"op": true
},
"<b5d27591156eeb51329e572177153951$1@www.novabbs.com>": {
"parents": [],
"op": true
},
"<7c83a8ef135c1022d441adde9029441b$1@www.novabbs.com>": {
"parents": [
"<b5d27591156eeb51329e572177153951$1@www.novabbs.com>"
],
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"ref": "<b5d27591156eeb51329e572177153951$1@www.novabbs.com>",
"ref_org": "<b5d27591156eeb51329e572177153951$1@www.novabbs.com>",
"solved": true
},

---snap

with this implemented properly, most of the threads should work on vichan as well. than i just have to reindex all messages.
but first the rslight upgrade.

cheers

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 by: Retro Guy - Tue, 26 May 2020 09:07 UTC

anonymous wrote:

> had to rewrite the re-indexing code due to some bugs, this is the data exchange format I use now:

> ---snip

> with this implemented properly, most of the threads should work on vichan as well. than i just have to reindex all messages.
> but first the rslight upgrade.

This is awesome! You're really making some great mods to vichan!

Once you have some code you want applied to spoolnews let me know. I'd like to either get most of it into a function (or two), or a script itself (vichan.php?)

I'll just put a toggle in config like I do with synchronet ($synchronet=true/false).

Retro Guy

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