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Subject: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 22:03 UTC

see here:
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/blob/master/inc/config.php
almost at the bottom of the page. I knew that overchan/nntpchan was build on vichan, but I never knew that this was also part of vichan itelf.
wouldn't it be nice if we could use vichan on rocksolid ?
ok, it is still php, and it is not developed anymore, but on the other hand it is a very mature code base, and the layout and feature list sits well with many users (and the code is less old than fudforum).
I smell a little coding project....

cheers

trw

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 23:53 UTC

the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. i mean, it is a lot easier and faster to just code the interface to nntp (and I believe I could base that on the work you have already done for rslight, or even just use the rslight code), and to remote control the post mechanism than to do something from scratch (like here with def4). it should be really easy...

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 23:55 UTC

in total contrast to what i said in another thread, btw, where i stated that it would be easier to do a css and make everything look exactly like you wanted it to.

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: retroguy@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: Rocksolid
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 23:00 UTC
anon wrote:


the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. i mean, it is a lot
easier and faster to just code the interface to nntp (and I believe I
could base that on the work you have already done for rslight, or even
just use the rslight code), and to remote control the post mechanism than
to do something from scratch (like here with def4). it should be really
easy...

A chan style interface to rocksolid would be great. def4 is very good, but
as you say it's probably not the way to go forward, modifying an existing
project like vichan shouldn't be too hard.

Yes, there is probably most of the the (php) nntp code necessary already in
rslight. We just extract what's needed, mod as necessary, etc. The rslight
nntp server also supports multiple methods of posting to it.

Retro Guy




Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 00:31 UTC

that sounds really great. and has even more potential, btw, because i also discovered that vichan has a json api, so you could easily update several instances of it with each other without using nntp at all (or only on one instance, to make the connection to rocksolid). This would practically add one more protocol for rocksolid syncs (http).

I think I am going to start to work on this, right after my rslight is functional.

cheers

trw Posted on def4


Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: retroguy@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: Rocksolid
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 23:44 UTC
anon wrote:


that sounds really great. and has even more potential, btw, because i also
discovered that vichan has a json api, so you could easily update several
instances of it with each other without using nntp at all (or only on one
instance, to make the connection to rocksolid). This would practically add
one more protocol for rocksolid syncs (http).

I think I am going to start to work on this, right after my rslight is
functional.
 
Nice! bbs, ff, rslight and vichan as choices of interfaces would be great.




Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 22:10 UTC

seems like this thing needs php7.0....my current version is 7.4..., and this seems to be a problem. of course i can just downgrade the package....

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 23:19 UTC

seems to be a real issue for the project, see here:
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/issues/363

question is , is there any real issue to just stay on a specific php version forever ? i guess as long as critical bugs are still fixed in the older ones, one could do it that way...i would have to research a bit...for sure all the existing instances are either on older php versions or have done some individual fixing (like we did on ff, just the kind of thing i hoped to avoid...).
maybe better to invest dev time in something that is a little better maintained. i had a good impression on maniwani. hmm....

cheers

trw

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Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: retroguy@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: Rocksolid
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 03:53 UTC
anon wrote:


seems to be a real issue for the project, see here:
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/issues/363

question is , is there any real issue to just stay on a specific php
version forever ? i guess as long as critical bugs are still fixed in the
older ones, one could do it that way...i would have to research a
bit...for sure all the existing instances are either on older php versions
or have done some individual fixing (like we did on ff, just the kind of
thing i hoped to avoid...). maybe better to invest dev time in something
that is a little better maintained. i had a good impression on maniwani.
hmm....

Wow, and here I thought you were running older versions of Debian. The
newest I've tested rslight on is php 7.2.29. I'll need to try 7.4 when I get
a chance.

When I started rslight, which is really a fork of newsportal, I had to deal
with the fact that newsportal discontinued development while still trying to
clean up and support php 5.0. It simply would not work on anything newer
than 5.0, so that was probably my biggest challenge. In all the searching I
did for a decent web based newsreader, almost all of them were out of date
and needed major work to even just load a page. I just picked the one I
liked best and dove in. It took quite a while to get it to even show
articles.

rslight is probably unrecognizable now as newsportal, but it's taken many
hours of first, making it work at all, then only after that making changes
to it. I've made so many changes by now that it feels like my own software
and I don't worry about breaking the original code, as I usually just end up
changing it.

Point is, a nice chan interface might be worth the effort, and it sure is a
great way to get more familiar with php.

Now, I still need to try rslight on 7.4 :)

Retro Guy




Subject: Re: hey, what do know ? vichan supports nntp
From: anon@anon.com (anon)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 09:02 UTC

ok, it had nothing to do with the php version (although they do complain a lot about this in the thread that i linked).
i have a test installation running now, and it is handling nicely.

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