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Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
From: AnonUser
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.security
Organization: NovaBBS
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:07 UTC
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From: AnonU...@rslight.i2p (AnonUser)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.security
Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:07:59 -0000 (UTC)
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anon wrote:


All the skids will have to find a new kewl email:

Quote:

We find that for the majority of ProtonMail users, no end-to-end encryption
guarantees have ever been provided by the ProtonMail service and that the Zero-Knowledge Pass-word Proofs are negated by the service itself.

/Quote

https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/1121.pdf

Posted on def4.i2p

It looks like protonmail uses QuoVadis cert, which might be questionable:

https://www.ghacks.net/2019/02/24/how-to-remove-darkmatter-certificates/

QuoVadis is managed by DarkMatter. A Reuter's article links DarkMatter to the United Arab Emirates government and surveillance operations. One such operation, called Karma, saw the team hack iPhones of "hundreds of activists, political leaders, and suspected terrorists" according to Reuters.

The EFF notes that DarkMatter's "business objectives directly depend on intercepting end-user traffic on behalf of snooping governments".

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Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
From: AnonUser
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.security
Organization: RetroBBS
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 04:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 04:25:34 -0000 (UTC)
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QuoVadis is owned by the Swiss company DigiCert, not DarkMatter. JFC you are stupid. --
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Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
From: Guest
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 01:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: And bye bye protonmail
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I could never get an account with Proto and even Tutanota closed the one I had.  Oh well...
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Subject: And bye bye protonmail
From: anon
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Organization: def4
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:49 UTC
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From: ano...@anon.com (anon)
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Subject: And bye bye protonmail
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:49:39+0000
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All the skids will have to find a new kewl email:

Quote:

We find that for the majority of ProtonMail users, no end-to-end encryption guarantees have ever been provided by the ProtonMail service and that the Zero-Knowledge Pass-word Proofs are negated by the service itself.

/Quote

https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/1121.pdf

Posted on def4.i2p


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