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Subject: Flarum thread
From: trw
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:46 UTC

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Subject: Flarum thread
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: anonymous
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
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ok, it is not even usable without js, as only part of the thread is displayed without...so that's a no no for me, as i will not implement software that encourages the use of js, much less one that requires it.

btw, i found this funny piece about federation in a thread here:

https://discuss.flarum.org/d/18668-feddle-fediverse-integration-for-flarum/5

"Me in all my research: "Nobody has ever actually attempted to federate a forum except maybe for one obscure project that was abandoned in 2009. There are no conventions, standards, or precedent for this kind of communication. Aaaaaa!"

the guy has not done his homework....i would have made a reply to that, if the site had not first asked for an email address to open an account, and then bombarded me with google captchas (i was coming from tor). bollocks to that !

I will stay lowtech and secure.

cheers

trw
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: anonymous
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 19:28 UTC
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guess i will take a look at https://postmill.xyz/
which has the design and functions close to what i would like to have (instead of ff), plus it is in php, and has some sensible goals:
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/raw/master/README.md
and a pretty straightforward install:
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/wikis/getting-started
(although it uses composer as well).

see https://raddle.me/
as an example of a forum that runs on postmill.

what say you, Mr. Retro Guy ?

cheers

trw Posted on def2

Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: RetroBBS
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 08:27 UTC
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To: anonymous
anonymous wrote:

guess i will take a look at https://postmill.xyz/
which has the design and functions close to what i would like to have (instead of ff), plus it is in php, and has some sensible goals:
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/raw/master/README.md
and a pretty straightforward install:
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/wikis/getting-started
(although it uses composer as well).

see https://raddle.me/
as an example of a forum that runs on postmill.

I haven't seen postmill before. In some ways similar to flarum. Have you tested yet to see how it does without js? I just did a short test and it seems to work ok, which is nice!

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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: trw
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def5
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:57 UTC
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Have you tested yet to see how it does without js? I just did a short test and it seems to work ok, which is nice!

I just made an account on raddle and posted something, everything seems to working nicely, also when using the hidden service http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/ I would say it is worth to spent some time on, and will snoop a bit around in the code.

The community of raddle is huge, by the way, same as for for dread http://dreadditevelidot.onion/ which I thought only to be a market place. Using the code of dread would also be very nice, but it is not published if I understand right.

cheers

trw

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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: trw
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:40 UTC
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alright, there is even an api (in rust), which should make posting new messages from inn2 very easy:

https://gitlab.com/postmill/postmill-rs

i have no experience with rust, but the api and the examples seem very simple.
right on.

trw

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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: anonymous
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
Organization: def2org
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
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and they used to have webhooks, which were sending new posts to other http servers as POST requests. man, a web interface parsing that POST request and sending it to the news server is a cakewalk, i have practically all the code laying around for that.

https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/wikis/webhooks

my blocking point is currently that postmill insists on postgresql 9.6, which seems impossible to setup on my vm because of unsolved dependencies. for the same reason, i also seem unable to uninstall it fully.

cheers

trw
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:56 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:55:44 -0000 (UTC)
anonymous@def2.anon (anonymous) wrote:

and they used to have webhooks, which were sending new posts to other
http servers as POST requests. man, a web interface parsing that POST
request and sending it to the news server is a cakewalk, i have
practically all the code laying around for that.

https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/wikis/webhooks

So would it be correct that the POST request can be to a php (or other
file) on the same host, that can then communicate with the nntp server?

The POST request could contain each header line required, and a body?
That would be easy to work with if received by a php file.

Retro Guy

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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
From: anonymous
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:54 UTC
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oh man, i think i might reconsider: flarum is usable without js, but the
nice features and the design go to hell then (see pic attached, top part
is with js, bottom part without, the same page).
it is really a pity, they even work on federation already (with
fediverse). but on the whole, the software and also the forum on flarum
itself seem rather unfit for the darknet. i will give another look, but i
am not optimistic anymore...
maybe i could ask meeh if he has any hacks done for his forum.

cheers

trw
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Subject: Re: Flarum thread
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fuck, postgresql is required, and the install via apt repeatedly and reproducibly fucks up, because postgresql-common cannot be configured.
must be a problem specific to the vm, as i cannot find anything on the subject in the search engines.

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So would it be correct that the POST request can be to a php (or other
file) on the same host, that can then communicate with the nntp server?

This is what I understood, yes.

The POST request could contain each header line required, and a body?
That would be easy to work with if received by a php file.

This is the structure, as published on the site that I linked:

{
"event": "new_submission",
"subject": {
"resource": "https://example.com/f/example/420/smoke-weed"
"id": 420,
"forum": "https://example.com/f/example"
"user": "https://example.com/user/emma"
"title": "Smoke weed!",
"body": "its good for your soul",
"url": "https://foo.example.com/"
"timestamp": "2018-04-20T06:09:00+00:00",
"locked": false,
"sticky": false,
"user_flag": "moderator",
"edited_at": "2018-06-09T04:21:09+00:00",
"moderated": false,
"comment_count": 0,
"upvotes": 0,
"downvotes": 0,
"thumbnail_1x": "https://example.com/very_long_image_url.jpg"
"thumbnail_2x": "https://example.com/very_long_image_url_2x.jpg"
}
}

I guess that is all you would need to pipe the message to inn2 (via php or cgi). Really easy.

cheers

trw
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Subject	Author
Flarum thread	trw
Re: Flarum thread	anonymous
Re: Flarum thread	anonymous
Re: Flarum thread	anonymous
Re: Flarum thread	Retro Guy
Re: Flarum thread	trw
Re: Flarum thread	trw
Re: Flarum thread	anonymous
Re: Flarum thread	Retro Guy
Re: Flarum thread	anonymous
Re: Flarum thread	trw