I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com

In article <supec8$rg9$1@dont-email.me>,
milivella <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com

Idoubt there are any denizens there.

You might have a better chance in Alberta.
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The Doctor:

> In article <supec8$rg9$1@dont-email.me>,
> milivella <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>> You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com
>
> Idoubt there are any denizens there.
>
> You might have a better chance in Alberta.

I'm talking to Prof. Alberta right now. ;)

milivella:
> The Doctor:
>
>> In article <supec8$rg9$1@dont-email.me>,
>> milivella  <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>>> You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com
>>
>>   Idoubt there are any denizens there.
>>
>>   You might have a better chance in Alberta.
>
> I'm talking to Prof. Alberta right now. ;)
Indeed, it would great to meet both Dr. Alberta and Prof. Alberta. But
yes, it looks kinda hard.

In article <supeue$2f5$1@dont-email.me>,
milivella <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
>The Doctor:
>
>> In article <supec8$rg9$1@dont-email.me>,
>> milivella <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>>> You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com
>>
>> Idoubt there are any denizens there.
>>
>> You might have a better chance in Alberta.
>
>I'm talking to Prof. Alberta right now. ;)

:-)
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On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com

This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?

I did a quick search using key words on google groups and could find two documented meetings (I won't mention names as those involved may not want their business reciting online, if they want to step forward and say who they are of course they're welcome to). I'm also confident I read that once upon a time two rss'ers met at a Liverpool match, although I couldn't find the thread referring to that meeting.

Given dwindling membership spread out across the World one would think meetings would be few and far between. That said, we have a number of North America based contributors and one wonders whether World Cup 2026 might provide the opportunity for further meetings of rss'ers?

RM

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?

I think I have met 6 RSSers in real life in my almost 30 years here:
- Massa and Irineu in the 1990s, when we were all students in the Boston area and would sometimes get together to watch Serie A matches in the North End.
- milivella in NYC a couple of years ago (with significant others!)
- Jackson in NYC on that same weekend, but it was just a fleeting hello, we didn't really hang out together
- David Kaiser, who I met up with to watch a USA WC match in WC2014 (?) in a crowded pub
- The guy behind Soccer Analysis (http://www.socanalysis.com/) who I met once at a meetup around the Sloan Sports Analytics conference (long after he had left RSS)

On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> You can contact me at milivella@gmail.com

Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
of a somewhat irrational minority.

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:50:32 p.m. UTC-5, MH wrote:
> On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
> > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
> the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
> think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
> of a somewhat irrational minority.

Not irrational ,just freedom fighters who dont know they have lost. As an Albertan I am assuming you have to be for the protesters?

On 2022-02-19 13:07, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:50:32 p.m. UTC-5, MH wrote:
>> On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
>>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>>> You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
>> Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
>> the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
>> think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
>> of a somewhat irrational minority.
>
> Not irrational ,just freedom fighters who dont know they have lost. As an Albertan I am assuming you have to be for the protesters?

1. Not really an Albertan. Born in Scotland, lived in WInnipeg and Nova
Scotia during formative years. Do not own jeans, a stetson, cowboy boots
or a truck.

2. Not at all for the protesters, though if they bring about Kenney's
demise, replacing him with someone even stupider and less competent,
there may be a silver lining to all this.

Irrational because:

A) 90 % of truckers are vaccinated

B) both US and Canada currently require vaccination or quarantine for
truckers crossing border

C) Most of what they are protesting falls under provincial jurisdiction,
not federal

D) some of them seem to think their tantrum is enough to overturn the
result of an election held less than six months ago, which provided a
result nearly identical to the election 2 years before that.

Now I would gladly see the back of hypocrite Trudeau, and am all in
favour of electoral reform (like MMP), but there is no way that the CPC
or the protestors can pretend the majority of Canadians are on their side.

On 2022-02-19 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
>> This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
>
> I think I have met 6 RSSers in real life in my almost 30 years here:
> - Massa and Irineu in the 1990s, when we were all students in the Boston area and would sometimes get together to watch Serie A matches in the North End.
> - milivella in NYC a couple of years ago (with significant others!)
> - Jackson in NYC on that same weekend, but it was just a fleeting hello, we didn't really hang out together
> - David Kaiser, who I met up with to watch a USA WC match in WC2014 (?) in a crowded pub
> - The guy behind Soccer Analysis (http://www.socanalysis.com/) who I met once at a meetup around the Sloan Sports Analytics conference (long after he had left RSS)
>

I recall Mark V describing a meeting with someone who is still a regular
contributor, in NYC I think.

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> On 2022-02-19 13:07, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:50:32 p.m. UTC-5, MH wrote:
> >> On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
> >>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> >>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> >>> You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> >> Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
> >> the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
> >> think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
> >> of a somewhat irrational minority.
> >
> > Not irrational ,just freedom fighters who dont know they have lost. As an Albertan I am assuming you have to be for the protesters?
> 1. Not really an Albertan. Born in Scotland, lived in WInnipeg and Nova
> Scotia during formative years. Do not own jeans, a stetson, cowboy boots
> or a truck.
>
> 2. Not at all for the protesters, though if they bring about Kenney's
> demise, replacing him with someone even stupider and less competent,
> there may be a silver lining to all this.
>
> Irrational because:
>
> A) 90 % of truckers are vaccinated
>
> B) both US and Canada currently require vaccination or quarantine for
> truckers crossing border
>
> C) Most of what they are protesting falls under provincial jurisdiction,
> not federal
>
> D) some of them seem to think their tantrum is enough to overturn the
> result of an election held less than six months ago, which provided a
> result nearly identical to the election 2 years before that.
>
> Now I would gladly see the back of hypocrite Trudeau, and am all in
> favour of electoral reform (like MMP), but there is no way that the CPC
> or the protestors can pretend the majority of Canadians are on their side..

I am surprised that they hate Trudeau so much, I mean cmon, he legalized weed, which is the only reason I voted for him. And honestly and I am not a liberal, I thought he handled this covid thing relatively well. for the record I vote Green, which in canada is a wasted vote

On 2022-02-19 15:14, Lily White wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>> On 2022-02-19 13:07, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:50:32 p.m. UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
>>>>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>>>>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>>>>> You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
>>>> Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
>>>> the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
>>>> think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
>>>> of a somewhat irrational minority.
>>>
>>> Not irrational ,just freedom fighters who dont know they have lost. As an Albertan I am assuming you have to be for the protesters?
>> 1. Not really an Albertan. Born in Scotland, lived in WInnipeg and Nova
>> Scotia during formative years. Do not own jeans, a stetson, cowboy boots
>> or a truck.
>>
>> 2. Not at all for the protesters, though if they bring about Kenney's
>> demise, replacing him with someone even stupider and less competent,
>> there may be a silver lining to all this.
>>
>> Irrational because:
>>
>> A) 90 % of truckers are vaccinated
>>
>> B) both US and Canada currently require vaccination or quarantine for
>> truckers crossing border
>>
>> C) Most of what they are protesting falls under provincial jurisdiction,
>> not federal
>>
>> D) some of them seem to think their tantrum is enough to overturn the
>> result of an election held less than six months ago, which provided a
>> result nearly identical to the election 2 years before that.
>>
>> Now I would gladly see the back of hypocrite Trudeau, and am all in
>> favour of electoral reform (like MMP), but there is no way that the CPC
>> or the protestors can pretend the majority of Canadians are on their side.
>
> I am surprised that they hate Trudeau so much, I mean cmon, he legalized weed, which is the only reason I voted for him. And honestly and I am not a liberal, I thought he handled this covid thing relatively well.

In many ways he did. Certainly the feds had people's backs much more
than our province did. And Anita Anand (whom I actually know from NS
days - her dad was a colleague of my dad's) did a good job in procuring
the vaccines.

But Trudeau, for all his alleged "wokeness" has just made too many
gaffes and I have never forgiven him for promising electoral reform in
2015, then not delivering at all. I kinda liked Mulcair, and Elizabeth
may, but this last election we had no leaders to vote for with any
gravitas or credibility.

for the record I vote Green, which in canada is a wasted vote

I voted Green last time too. It was clear the the Conservative
candidate was going to win easily this time (it was close in 2015,
though) so any vote was a wasted vote, and the Green candidate had done
a lot of good work on preventing parks from being privatized and
stopping new strip mining of coal on the eastern slopes.

In article <surobj$h3v$1@dont-email.me>, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>On 2022-02-19 13:07, Binder Dundat wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:50:32 p.m. UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-18 17:42, milivella wrote:
>>>> I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
>>>> March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
>>>> You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
>>> Mark V, whom we have not heard from in a long long time, probably was
>>> the RSSer closest to Vancouver. Last heard of in Bellingham WA, I
>>> think. But some WA/BC borders are still closed or blockaded by members
>>> of a somewhat irrational minority.
>>
>> Not irrational ,just freedom fighters who dont know they have lost.
>As an Albertan I am assuming you have to be for the protesters?
>
>1. Not really an Albertan. Born in Scotland, lived in WInnipeg and Nova
>Scotia during formative years. Do not own jeans, a stetson, cowboy boots
>or a truck.
>
>2. Not at all for the protesters, though if they bring about Kenney's
>demise, replacing him with someone even stupider and less competent,
>there may be a silver lining to all this.
>
>Irrational because:
>
>A) 90 % of truckers are vaccinated
>
>B) both US and Canada currently require vaccination or quarantine for
>truckers crossing border
>
>C) Most of what they are protesting falls under provincial jurisdiction,
>not federal
>
>D) some of them seem to think their tantrum is enough to overturn the
>result of an election held less than six months ago, which provided a
>result nearly identical to the election 2 years before that.
>
>Now I would gladly see the back of hypocrite Trudeau, and am all in
>favour of electoral reform (like MMP), but there is no way that the CPC
>or the protestors can pretend the majority of Canadians are on their side.
>
>

Hear!! Hear!!
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Following a bit what is going on in Canada and just wanted
to share the best video I've seen so far, pure gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmqPX4hwn-I

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
>

I met Mark Vanderwen at a pub in NYC circa 2011. We watched an EPL game together, forget who played.

I also met Jussi Uosukainen in NYC in 2019. We grabbed dinner at an Italian restaurant.

Futbolmetrix and I also found out after the fact that we were at the same game around 2012/13. It was a Liverpool-Roma friendly in Boston.

Heartwarming to hear how many rss'er meetings there have been, although most of them seem to be USA based. Even allowing for that there seem to be more meetings than I would have thought.

So how many UEFA based rss'ers are left (currently active)?

I'd wager a guess:

Myself

Anders

Bruce (although supports a CONCACAF nation)

Jesper

Vedran

Werner

Maybes:

Millivella

Ixion Martin

Blueshirt (??)

RM

On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 7:28:19 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> > This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
> >
> I met Mark Vanderwen at a pub in NYC circa 2011. We watched an EPL game together, forget who played.

Did Mark have as good a sense of humour in person as he showed online? He always seemed a good laugh on here. Shame he doesn't post anymore, hope he's doing ok.

RM

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 7:19:30 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
>
> I did a quick search using key words on google groups and could find two documented meetings (I won't mention names as those involved may not want their business reciting online, if they want to step forward
> and say who they are of course they're welcome to). I'm also confident I read that once upon a time two rss'ers met at a Liverpool match, although I couldn't find the thread referring to that meeting.

I've met Juan and Andrea, as I think has been documented in the group.

Ciao,
Werner

Real Mardin escreveu:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?

I met Jesus Petry twice in Rio de Janeiro. The first of these meetings is documented here:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/GT6Zv3C4O58/m/zhONbu-YdFIJ

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On 2022-02-19, Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> [...]
> I did a quick search using key words on google groups and could
> find two documented meetings [...]

These were much more common in the 1990s... I met Gustaaf van
Moorsel, Simon Gleave ('Shaggy') and Karel Stokkermans during that
time. Of course, Jesper and I and Stefan (who used to also post here)
have seen FCB matches together for many years.

In the Covid era of course there is less travel. In Europe, these
were much easier before (1) the dot-com crash ca 2000 and (2) the
introduction of the Euro in 2002 +/- which led to both trains and
small pension/hotels becoming much more expensive here.

If you want documentation, we used to do that in d.r.s.f, the German
newsgroup. The last meeting from that which I attended was a grill
party in Koeln.

> Given dwindling membership spread out across the World one would
> think meetings would be few and far between. That said, we have a
> number of North America based contributors and one wonders whether
> World Cup 2026 might provide the opportunity for further meetings of
> rss'ers?

That would be great. I will keep it in mind. I've never had much
luck with WC tickets though (except 2 matches in 2006).

--
ciao, Bruce

All right MH, where and when do you want to meet?

You should have came up in November to Edmonton.

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On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 4:54:51 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 7:28:19 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > > > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > > > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > > > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> > > This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
> > >
> > I met Mark Vanderwen at a pub in NYC circa 2011. We watched an EPL game together, forget who played.
> Did Mark have as good a sense of humour in person as he showed online? He always seemed a good laugh on here. Shame he doesn't post anymore, hope he's doing ok.

He was a little more understated in person, as opposed to his online persona. But I'd guess that's true for a lot of us. A perfect gentleman. Seems to have gone off social media as well so no idea where he is, but he did pop his head in here a year or two back, which was a pleasant surprise.

Em segunda-feira, 21 de fevereiro de 2022 às 10:29:15 UTC-3, Lléo escreveu:
> Real Mardin escreveu:
> > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> > This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
> I met Jesus Petry twice in Rio de Janeiro. The first of these meetings is documented here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/GT6Zv3C4O58/m/zhONbu-YdFIJ

I've also met Clément (Luiz) in Porto Alegre a little earlier.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:41:28 PM UTC, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
> Em segunda-feira, 21 de fevereiro de 2022 às 10:29:15 UTC-3, Lléo escreveu:
> > Real Mardin escreveu:
> > > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC, milivella wrote:
> > > > I'll be in Los Angeles (February 20 to 25) and Vancouver (February 26 to
> > > > March 4). If any of you will be there then, it would be nice to meet!
> > > > You can contact me at mili...@gmail.com
> > > This begs the question: how many documented meetings between rss'ers have there been?
> > I met Jesus Petry twice in Rio de Janeiro. The first of these meetings is documented here:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/GT6Zv3C4O58/m/zhONbu-YdFIJ
> I've also met Clément (Luiz) in Porto Alegre a little earlier.
>
> Tchau!
> Jesus Petry

So not to put too fine a point on it, but you lot have all been meeting up and not inviting me? Lol

RM