"a kindergarten cesspool"

Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.

See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?

"In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
informative for all.

--
Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your Name,
et al.

Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten cesspool."

On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>
> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>
> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>
>
>
> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
> informative for all.
>
> --
> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your Name,
> et al.
>
> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten cesspool."
>

"Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"

Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in question,
Gutless?

Look up "arlen".

On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>
>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>
>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>
>>
>>
>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
>> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
>> informative for all.
>>
>> --
>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>> Name, et al.
>>
>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten cesspool."
>>
>
> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>
> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in question,
> Gutless?
>
> Look up "arlen".

Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless, pedant.

"Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?

100%, now FOAD.

On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>
>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>>
>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
>>> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
>>> informative for all.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>>> Name, et al.
>>>
>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten cesspool."
>>>
>>
>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>
>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>> question, Gutless?
>>
>> Look up "arlen".
>
>
> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless, pedant.
>
> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?
>
> 100%, now FOAD.

Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.

Have I struck a nerve again?

:-)

On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>
>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>>>
>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
>>>> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
>>>> informative for all.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>>>> Name, et al.
>>>>
>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>> cesspool."
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>
>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>> question, Gutless?
>>>
>>> Look up "arlen".
>>
>>
>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless, pedant.
>>
>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>
>> 100%, now FOAD.
>
> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>
> Have I struck a nerve again?
>
> :-)

You've shit your pants again, moron.

Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.

On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>>>>
>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
>>>>> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
>>>>> informative for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly
>>>>> Roger,
>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>>>>> Name, et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>
>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>
>>>
>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless, pedant.
>>>
>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>
>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>
>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>
>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>
>> :-)
>
>
> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>
> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>

Because I correctly identified your yelling at the clouds?

What is so wrong with trying a new way of qualifying?

Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when qualifying was
one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand total of 10 minutes?

Why don't you two take your petty squabbles elsewhere, alt.idiots for
example.

On 9/07/2021 3:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> Why don't you two take your petty squabbles elsewhere, alt.idiots for example.

What's interesting is this is the first post I've seen in this thread, by a guy who doesn't use
attributes or quotes and I'm fine with that.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

On 9/07/2021 2:56 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 9/07/2021 3:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> Why don't you two take your petty squabbles elsewhere, alt.idiots for
>> example.
>
> What's interesting is this is the first post I've seen in this thread,
> by a guy who doesn't use attributes or quotes and I'm fine with that.

There was nothing worth quoting :(

On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a Usenet
>>>>>> newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful and
>>>>>> informative for all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly
>>>>>> Roger,
>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>>>>>> Name, et al.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless, pedant.
>>>>
>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>
>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>
>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>
>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>>
>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>
>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>
>

> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when qualifying was
> one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand total of 10 minutes?

Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!

On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 13:18:23 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>Why don't you two take your petty squabbles elsewhere, alt.idiots for
>example.

+1

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:24:32 AM UTC-6, Martin Harran wrote:

> +1

hey harry martin
thanks for fuck all

On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully helpful
>>>>>>> and informative for all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly
>>>>>>> Roger,
>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your
>>>>>>> Name, et al.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless,
>>>>> pedant.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>
>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>
>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>
>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>
>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>
>>
>
>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when qualifying
>> was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand total of 10
>> minutes?
>
>
> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!
>

And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.

On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally relevant
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly
>>>>>>>> Roger,
>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan,
>>>>>>>> Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless,
>>>>>> pedant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>
>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when qualifying
>>> was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand total of 10
>>> minutes?
>>
>>
>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!
>>
>
> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.

Bullshit, poseur.

On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan,
>>>>>>>>> Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless,
>>>>>>> pedant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when qualifying
>>>> was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand total of 10
>>>> minutes?
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!
>>>
>>
>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>
>
> Bullshit, poseur.

'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most of
the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for the
likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line and lay
some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get caught out if
there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly jumbled
order – always a good thing!'

<https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>

On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan,
>>>>>>>>>> Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless,
>>>>>>>> pedant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when
>>>>> qualifying was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a grand
>>>>> total of 10 minutes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!
>>>>
>>>
>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>>
>>
>> Bullshit, poseur.
>
> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most of
> the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for the
> likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line and lay
> some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get caught out if
> there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly jumbled
> order – always a good thing!'
>
> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>

Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the period that
qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen (4), USGP Long Beach
(3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport and Montreal (3) -- but let your
sample of one Google cite suffice, you feckless pedant and poseur.

And even if so, your basic math skills suck. What is 60 less 40? Twice?

On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted
>>>>>>>>>>> participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan,
>>>>>>>>>>> Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant" in
>>>>>>>>>> question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless, feckless,
>>>>>>>>> pedant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when
>>>>>> qualifying was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a
>>>>>> grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration? Yes!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>
>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most of
>> the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for the
>> likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line and lay
>> some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get caught out if
>> there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly jumbled
>> order – always a good thing!'
>>
>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>
>
>
> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the period that
> qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen (4), USGP Long Beach
> (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport and Montreal (3) -- but let your
> sample of one Google cite suffice, you feckless pedant and poseur.

Got any proof of what you claim? No?

Shocking.

>
> And even if so, your basic math skills suck. What is 60 less 40? Twice?

Still not a lot for the paying customers...

....and I've watched most F1 races for the last 30 years, and I know that
when they had the opportunity, the best teams just weren't on track more
than a bare minimum of laps.

On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted
>>>>>>>>>>>> participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, Wolffan,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kindergarten cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant"
>>>>>>>>>>> in question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless,
>>>>>>>>>> feckless, pedant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when
>>>>>>> qualifying was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a
>>>>>>> grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration?
>>>>>> Yes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>>
>>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most
>>> of the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for
>>> the likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line and
>>> lay some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get caught out
>>> if there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly
>>> jumbled order – always a good thing!'
>>>
>>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the period that
>> qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen (4), USGP Long Beach
>> (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport and Montreal (3) -- but let your
>> sample of one Google cite suffice, you feckless pedant and poseur.
>
> Got any proof of what you claim? No?
>
> Shocking.
>

Look it up in SCCA, Cal Club, CASC, and QRFA archives. I'll wait.

>>
>> And even if so, your basic math skills suck. What is 60 less 40? Twice?
>
> Still not a lot for the paying customers...
>
> ...and I've watched most F1 races for the last 30 years, and I know that
> when they had the opportunity, the best teams just weren't on track more
> than a bare minimum of laps.

From your mom's basement. Well done, poseur and pedant!

On 2021-07-15 11:39 a.m., News wrote:
> On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolffan, Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kindergarten cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant"
>>>>>>>>>>>> in question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless,
>>>>>>>>>>> feckless, pedant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when
>>>>>>>> qualifying was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a
>>>>>>>> grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours duration?
>>>>>>> Yes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>>>
>>>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most
>>>> of the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for
>>>> the likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line and
>>>> lay some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get caught
>>>> out if there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a
>>>> properly jumbled order – always a good thing!'
>>>>
>>>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the period
>>> that qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen (4), USGP Long
>>> Beach (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport and Montreal (3) -- but
>>> let your sample of one Google cite suffice, you feckless pedant and
>>> poseur.
>>
>> Got any proof of what you claim? No?
>>
>> Shocking.
>>
>
> Look it up in SCCA, Cal Club, CASC, and QRFA archives. I'll wait.

Why would the SCCA have records of how long F1 cars were on track, Gutless?

I thought it would be obvious that I'm not saying you weren't there...

....but I didn't allow for how the obvious escapes you...

....like it escapes you that after a few free practice sessions, drivers
of the caliber of F1 pilots only need a lap or two to achieve their best
time.

On 7/15/2021 3:41 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-15 11:39 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad newsgroups, but equally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by a disgusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists below are _not_ on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Usenet newsgroup thread, the conversation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposefully helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck, Wade Garrett,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolffan, Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple newssgroups are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kindergarten cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of the "participant"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking useless,
>>>>>>>>>>>> feckless, pedant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to be when
>>>>>>>>> qualifying was one session and you saw the cars for perhaps a
>>>>>>>>> grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two hours
>>>>>>>> duration? Yes!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the session, most
>>>>> of the top drivers and teams would stay in the garage, waiting for
>>>>> the likes of Minardi to trundle around, clean up the racing line
>>>>> and lay some rubber down. Occasionally the top teams would get
>>>>> caught out if there were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a
>>>>> properly jumbled order – always a good thing!'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the period
>>>> that qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen (4), USGP
>>>> Long Beach (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport and Montreal (3) --
>>>> but let your sample of one Google cite suffice, you feckless pedant
>>>> and poseur.
>>>
>>> Got any proof of what you claim? No?
>>>
>>> Shocking.
>>>
>>
>> Look it up in SCCA, Cal Club, CASC, and QRFA archives. I'll wait.
>
> Why would the SCCA have records of how long F1 cars were on track, Gutless?
>
> I thought it would be obvious that I'm not saying you weren't there...

LMAO

FUCK OFF, POSEUR

On 2021-07-15 1:07 p.m., News wrote:
> On 7/15/2021 3:41 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-15 11:39 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below are _not_ on a Usenet newsgroup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Savageduck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "participant" in question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> useless, feckless, pedant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to
>>>>>>>>>> be when qualifying was one session and you saw the
>>>>>>>>>> cars for perhaps a grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two
>>>>>>>>> hours duration? Yes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each
>>>>>>>> session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the
>>>>>> session, most of the top drivers and teams would stay in
>>>>>> the garage, waiting for the likes of Minardi to trundle
>>>>>> around, clean up the racing line and lay some rubber down.
>>>>>> Occasionally the top teams would get caught out if there
>>>>>> were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly
>>>>>> jumbled order – always a good thing!'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the
>>>>> period that qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen
>>>>> (4), USGP Long Beach (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport
>>>>> and Montreal (3) -- but let your sample of one Google cite
>>>>> suffice, you feckless pedant and poseur.
>>>>
>>>> Got any proof of what you claim? No?
>>>>
>>>> Shocking.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Look it up in SCCA, Cal Club, CASC, and QRFA archives. I'll
>>> wait.
>>
>> Why would the SCCA have records of how long F1 cars were on track,
>> Gutless?
>>
>> I thought it would be obvious that I'm not saying you weren't
>> there...
>
> LMAO
>
> FUCK OFF, POSEUR
>

Too gutless to address the rest of what I wrote, Gutless?

That's OK... ...I'll give you another chance.

:-)

>>
>>
>> ...but I didn't allow for how the obvious escapes you...
>>
>> ...like it escapes you that after a few free practice sessions,
>> drivers of the caliber of F1 pilots only need a lap or two to
>> achieve their best time.

On 7/15/2021 4:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-15 1:07 p.m., News wrote:
>> On 7/15/2021 3:41 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-15 11:39 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross-posted to mac/iPhone/iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroups, but equally relevant here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See anything familiar in this summary by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a disgusted participant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In summary, when the dozen apologists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below are _not_ on a Usenet newsgroup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread, the conversation is purposefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful and informative for all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed, Savageduck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wade Garrett, Wolffan, Your Name, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologists alone are why Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newssgroups are a kindergarten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cesspool."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Waahhh! Someone called me out on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to examine the credibility of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "participant" in question, Gutless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up "arlen".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to correct the record, you fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useless, feckless, pedant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Call [you] out on [your] bullshit?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100%, now FOAD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I struck a nerve again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Smelled up the newsgroup, yet again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like to go back to the way it used to
>>>>>>>>>>> be when qualifying was one session and you saw the
>>>>>>>>>>> cars for perhaps a grand total of 10 minutes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really? Friday and Saturday sessions, a total two
>>>>>>>>>> hours duration? Yes!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the cars on track for maybe 10 minutes each
>>>>>>>>> session.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit, poseur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'The drawback is that for the first 40 minutes of the
>>>>>>> session, most of the top drivers and teams would stay in
>>>>>>> the garage, waiting for the likes of Minardi to trundle
>>>>>>> around, clean up the racing line and lay some rubber down.
>>>>>>> Occasionally the top teams would get caught out if there
>>>>>>> were some drops of rain, though, and we’d get a properly
>>>>>>> jumbled order – always a good thing!'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://wtf1.com/post/all-of-the-different-f1-qualifying-formats-ranked/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not in my experience with working ten F1 events during the
>>>>>> period that qualifying format was in use -- USGP Watkins Glen
>>>>>> (4), USGP Long Beach (3), USGP Dallas, Canadian GP Mosport
>>>>>> and Montreal (3) -- but let your sample of one Google cite
>>>>>> suffice, you feckless pedant and poseur.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got any proof of what you claim? No?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shocking.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look it up in SCCA, Cal Club, CASC, and QRFA archives. I'll
>>>> wait.
>>>
>>> Why would the SCCA have records of how long F1 cars were on track,
>>>  Gutless?
>>>
>>> I thought it would be obvious that I'm not saying you weren't
>>> there...
>>
>> LMAO
>>
>> FUCK OFF, POSEUR
>>
>
> Too gutless to address the rest of what I wrote, Gutless?
>
> That's OK... ...I'll give you another chance.
>
> :-)
>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...but I didn't allow for how the obvious escapes you...
>>>
>>> ...like it escapes you that after a few free practice sessions,
>>> drivers of the caliber of F1 pilots only need a lap or two to
>>> achieve their best time.

Right, because in an era before realtime telemetry and weather
forecasting, track conditions never changed, competitors didn't improve
and better their times, tire selection, running pressures, and chassis
setups weren't options. 'F1 pilots' never improved, asymptotically,
beyond a point. So two hours of qualifying over Friday and Saturday were
a flat-out waste. Nobody except everybody used them to the fullest.

Extrapolating, even back then, this board's most famous wace dwiber and
self-styled smartest, best 'pilot' on the grid, would bank one and done.

The rest? All pedestrians. Get out the blue flags. Retire them.

And FUCK OFF, you FECKLESS PEDANT, DULLARD, and obvious POSEUR.

So go ahead.

On 2021-07-15 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
>>
>> Too gutless to address the rest of what I wrote, Gutless?
>>
>> That's OK... ...I'll give you another chance.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...but I didn't allow for how the obvious escapes you...
>>>>
>>>> ...like it escapes you that after a few free practice sessions,
>>>> drivers of the caliber of F1 pilots only need a lap or two to
>>>> achieve their best time.
>
>
> Right, because in an era before realtime telemetry and weather
> forecasting,

Two session qualifying was used in 2005. You think 16 years ago F1
didn't have realtime telemetry or weather forecasting?

'Tyrell led the way in 1978 when it introduced a computer-driven
analysis of its cars’ performance data.

....

Two-way telemetry was readmitted for 2002, and McLaren used it to good
effect at Monaco to stop David Coulthard’s engine from smoking due to a
sticking valve in the oil system. A fix beamed out from the pits allowed
him to keep running all the way to victory. For 2003, though,
pits-to-car telemetry was banned again.'

<https://formulaoneinsights.com/data-acquisition-and-telemetry-in-formula-1/>

Keep digging, Gutless!

> track conditions never changed, competitors didn't improve
> and better their times, tire selection, running pressures, and chassis
> setups weren't options. 'F1 pilots' never improved, asymptotically,
> beyond a point. So two hours of qualifying over Friday and Saturday were
> a flat-out waste. Nobody except everybody used them to the fullest.

Nope. The fact is that the current system was brought in specifically
BECAUSE under previous formats the track would be empty for most of
qualifying.

'Although of course this is F1, and typically many of the leading teams
would wait until the final moments of the session to set their times,
leaving the smaller teams to clean the racing line but soak up the extra
(and much-needed) TV time.'

<https://the-race.com/formula-1/f1s-best-and-worst-qualifying-format-changes/>

>
> Extrapolating, even back then, this board's most famous wace dwiber and
> self-styled smartest, best 'pilot' on the grid, would bank one and done.

>
> The rest? All pedestrians. Get out the blue flags. Retire them.

Me? Hell no. I use every minute of every qualifying session...

....because I am NOT NEAR the best, gutless.

But the F1 drivers ARE.

> And FUCK OFF, you FECKLESS PEDANT, DULLARD, and obvious POSEUR.
>
> So go ahead.
>
> Gratuitous smarmy smiley face.

On 7/15/2021 5:02 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-15 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
>>>
>>> Too gutless to address the rest of what I wrote, Gutless?
>>>
>>> That's OK... ...I'll give you another chance.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but I didn't allow for how the obvious escapes you...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...like it escapes you that after a few free practice sessions,
>>>>> drivers of the caliber of F1 pilots only need a lap or two to
>>>>> achieve their best time.
>>
>>
>> Right, because in an era before realtime telemetry and weather
>> forecasting,
>

Two qualifying sessions, Friday (except Monaco) and Saturday, were used
before the 1996 season, ya fucking know-nothing.

>> track conditions never changed, competitors didn't improve and better
>> their times, tire selection, running pressures, and chassis setups
>> weren't options. 'F1 pilots' never improved, asymptotically, beyond a
>> point. So two hours of qualifying over Friday and Saturday were a
>> flat-out waste. Nobody except everybody used them to the fullest.
>>
>> Extrapolating, even back then, this board's most famous wace dwiber
>> and self-styled smartest, best 'pilot' on the grid, would bank one and
>> done.
>>
>> The rest? All pedestrians. Get out the blue flags. Retire them.
>> And FUCK OFF, you FECKLESS PEDANT, DULLARD, and obvious POSEUR.
>>
>> So go ahead.
>>
>> Gratuitous smarmy smiley face.
>

On 16/07/2021 6:39 am, News wrote:
> On 7/15/2021 2:31 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-15 11:28 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2021 1:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-15 8:15 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2021 1:37 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-09 7:37 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 3:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:57 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2021 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-08 11:33 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "a kindergarten cesspool"

>>>>>>>>>> Awwwwwww... ...Gutless.

>>>>>>>>> You've shit your pants again, moron.

>>>>> Bullshit, poseur.

> From your mom's basement. Well done, poseur and pedant!

>> wanker
>>> pedant
>>>> poseur
>>>>> pussy
>>>>>> idiot
>>>>>>> dumbass
>>>>>>>> dog turd
>>>>>>>>> faggot
>>>>>>>>>> experienced racer
>>>>>>>>>>> wannabe
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignoramus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're immature ! You're immature !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naa naa naa naa naaaaa