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 by: milivella - Sun, 6 Nov 2022 02:31 UTC

[The rules of this thread are simple: write what you want, reply if you
want, ignore if you have to.]

---

Werner is out of the WC. Lo Celso would play some games only if
Argentina advances and he decides to screw up his whole future career.
Varane is still injuried, and Dechamps has stated he won't take injured
players to the WC.

I have not a good feeling about this...

--
Cheers
milivella

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 by: MH - Sun, 6 Nov 2022 21:28 UTC

On 2022-11-05 20:31, milivella wrote:
> [The rules of this thread are simple: write what you want, reply if you
> want, ignore if you have to.]
>
> ---
>
> Werner is out of the WC. Lo Celso would play some games only if
> Argentina advances and he decides to screw up his whole future career.
> Varane is still injuried, and Dechamps has stated he won't take injured
> players to the WC.

Maybe Giroud will get a last hurrah !

Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
Who has the most ?

For me:

Cycle 1

LLoris. Still number 1 and a world cup winner.
Muniain - only 29, but an extreme longshot to be selected.

Cycle 2

Alba and Giroud, though long in the tooth, both might still go. Not at
all sure. Both WC winners.

Cycle 3

Shaw, Digne, Goretzka, Laporte might all be picked, but only Gorezka is
highly likely I would say. Laporte has been injured a lot.

Cycle 4. Only Tolisso and Stark in contention, and neither is at all
likely.

Cycle 5:

T. Hazard, Dendoncker, Tielemans, and maybe Praet for Belgium
Henrichs an outside chance for Germany
Pickford for England.

Cycle 6.
Maybe Klostermann, with Koch even less likely for Germany
Maignan for France but won't normally play
Ikone a remote possibility.

Cycle 7
Nico Williams has a chance for Spain. Vanzeir an extreme long shot

>
> I have not a good feeling about this...
>
> --
> Cheers
> milivella

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sun, 6 Nov 2022 22:35 UTC

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:28:10 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> On 2022-11-05 20:31, milivella wrote:

> Maybe Giroud will get a last hurrah !

I would be surprised if he doesn't!

>
> Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
> likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
> Who has the most ?
>
> For me:

For me:

Cycle 1: Mueller should be a lock
Cycle 2: Casemiro should be a lock, Walker if he's recovered from injury
Cycle 3: We don't talk about Cycle 3 (Marquinhos a lock, Pogba out due to injury)
Cycle 4: Kane a lock, Kante depending on fitness. Gunter has a shout. Inaki Williams will represent Ghana :-(
Cycle 5: Rodri and Pope are locks (but the latter won't play much), Abraham maybe, Kimpembe likely to miss because of injury
Cycle 6: Slim pickings: Antony and Matheus
Cycle 7: Maybe a bit more, but not that many starters

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On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 10:28:10 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
> On 2022-11-05 20:31, milivella wrote:
> > [The rules of this thread are simple: write what you want, reply if you
> > want, ignore if you have to.]
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Werner is out of the WC. Lo Celso would play some games only if
> > Argentina advances and he decides to screw up his whole future career.
> > Varane is still injuried, and Dechamps has stated he won't take injured
> > players to the WC.
> Maybe Giroud will get a last hurrah !
>
>
> Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
> likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
> Who has the most ?
>
> For me:
>
> Cycle 1
>
> LLoris. Still number 1 and a world cup winner.
> Muniain - only 29, but an extreme longshot to be selected.
>
> Cycle 2
>
> Alba and Giroud, though long in the tooth, both might still go. Not at
> all sure. Both WC winners.
>
> Cycle 3
>
> Shaw,

The only survivor

https://twitter.com/footballramble/status/1585312046710677504

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:02 UTC

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 5:35:40 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Cycle 6: Slim pickings: Antony and Matheus

Matheus didn't make it. Not really a surprise. Also, what was I thinking when I posted these predictions?

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 by: milivella - Wed, 9 Nov 2022 02:02 UTC

MH:

> Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
> likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?

Nice question! I'm going to embarass myself by showing how little I know.

(I am not including the Brazilian, since the squad is official by now.)

Cycle 1: -

Cycle 2: Varane in doubt because of the injury

Cycle 3: we talk about cycle 3. ter Stegen, Carvajal?, Koke, Klaassen, Suele

Cycle 4: Dybala, Gaya?, Ziyech ;), van Dijk, Areola

Cycle 5: Upamecano, Calvert-Lewin?, Lo Celso, Alexander-Arnold

Cycle 6: Neuhaus?, Moukoko?, Kounde?, Musiala, Badiashile?

Min (Weaufx Gods, please look away): 5 Brazilians + 12 = 17

Max (WG, please read Futbolmetrix' post... again): 17 + 7 = 24

Cheat: 24 + Ziyech = 25

I may be one player short of a full squad!

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milivella

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 by: milivella - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:16 UTC

milivella:

> MH:
>
>> Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
>> likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
>
> Nice question! I'm going to embarass myself by showing how little I know.

Let's see how I fared:

> (I am not including the Brazilian, since the squad is official by now.)
>
> Cycle 1: -
>
> Cycle 2: Varane in doubt because of the injury

Nobody expected Goetze.

> Cycle 3: we talk about cycle 3. ter Stegen, Carvajal?, Koke, Klaassen,
> Suele

Correct.

> Cycle 4: Dybala, Gaya?, Ziyech ;), van Dijk, Areola

Correct.

> Cycle 5: Upamecano, Calvert-Lewin?, Lo Celso, Alexander-Arnold

I forgot about Lo Celso's injury, even though I had posted about it a
few days earlier.

> Cycle 6: Neuhaus?, Moukoko?, Kounde?, Musiala, Badiashile?

Neuhaus injured. Kounde and Badiashile didn't make it (typical France
not calling up players picked by an Italian...).

> Min (Weaufx Gods, please look away): 5 Brazilians + 12 = 17
>
> Max (WG, please read Futbolmetrix' post... again): 17 + 7 = 24

24 + Goetze - (Lo Celso + Neuhaus + Kounde + Badiashile) = 21

Twenty-one benchwarmers, but it's better than twenty benchwarmers.

--
Cheers
milivella

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 by: MH - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 21:30 UTC

On 2022-11-06 14:28, MH wrote:
> On 2022-11-05 20:31, milivella wrote:
>> [The rules of this thread are simple: write what you want, reply if
>> you want, ignore if you have to.]
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Werner is out of the WC. Lo Celso would play some games only if
>> Argentina advances and he decides to screw up his whole future career.
>> Varane is still injuried, and Dechamps has stated he won't take
>> injured players to the WC.
>
> Maybe Giroud will get a last hurrah !
>
>
> Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
> likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
> Who has the most ?
>
> For me:
>
> Cycle 1
>
> LLoris.  Still number 1 and a world cup winner.
> Muniain - only 29, but an extreme longshot to be selected.

LLoris yes. 1
>
> Cycle 2
>
> Alba and Giroud, though long in the tooth, both might still go. Not at
> all sure.  Both WC winners.

Both picked. = 3 total
>
> Cycle 3
>
> Shaw, Digne, Goretzka, Laporte might all be picked, but only Gorezka is
> highly likely I would say.  Laporte has been injured a lot.

Shaw, Goretzka, Laporte

= 6 total

>
> Cycle 4.  Only Tolisso and Stark in contention, and neither is at all
> likely.
>

Yup, neither
> Cycle 5:
>
> T. Hazard, Dendoncker, Tielemans, and maybe Praet for Belgium
> Henrichs an outside chance for Germany
> Pickford for England.

3 Belgians and a Sassenach

= 10 total

>

> Cycle 6.
> Maybe Klostermann, with Koch even less likely for Germany
> Maignan for France but won't normally play
> Ikone a remote possibility.

Only Klosterman

>
> Cycle 7
> Nico Williams has a chance for Spain. Vanzeir an extreme long shot

Only Nico

Only 12....
>
>
>>
>> I have not a good feeling about this...
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> milivella
>

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 22:57 UTC

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 5:35:40 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:28:10 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> > On 2022-11-05 20:31, milivella wrote:
>
> > Maybe Giroud will get a last hurrah !
> I would be surprised if he doesn't!
> >
> > Which players from each scout's selections over the years are most
> > likely going to the WC if nothing bad happens in the next two weeks ?
> > Who has the most ?
> >
> > For me:
> For me:
>
> Cycle 1: Mueller should be a lock
check : 1

> Cycle 2: Casemiro should be a lock, Walker if he's recovered from injury
check : 1

> Cycle 3: We don't talk about Cycle 3 (Marquinhos a lock, Pogba out due to injury)
check: 1

> Cycle 4: Kane a lock, Kante depending on fitness. Gunter has a shout. Inaki Williams will represent Ghana :-(
3: Kane, Gunter and Veretout. Interesting that 2 of the 3 are players that milivella made me pick in the context of one of our bets.

> Cycle 5: Rodri and Pope are locks (but the latter won't play much), Abraham maybe, Kimpembe likely to miss because of injury
3: Kimpembe, Pope and Rodri, Abraham and Ndombele scandalously left out.
> Cycle 6: Slim pickings: Antony and Matheus
3: Adeyemi, Antony, Exequiel Palacios

> Cycle 7: Maybe a bit more, but not that many starters
3: Araujo, Debast, Robert Sanchez

> Cycle 8:
1: Hugo Guillamon

16 in total. Meh.

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 by: milivella - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 18:13 UTC

Nice, a list of my players in the EPL!

https://www.infogol.net/en/blog/analysis/premier-league-the-least-clinical-players-in-a-single-season-since-14-15-842020

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 by: milivella - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:20 UTC

MH:

> Only 12....

But you had a clear idea of who had how many chances!

Anyway, now only points count, and you have a number of
starters/supersubs/goalscorers.

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 by: milivella - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:24 UTC

Futbolmetrix:

>> Cycle 1: Mueller should be a lock
> check : 1
>
>> Cycle 2: Casemiro should be a lock, Walker if he's recovered from injury
> check : 1
>
>> Cycle 3: We don't talk about Cycle 3 (Marquinhos a lock, Pogba out due to injury)
> check: 1

Cycles 1-3: 1 each.

>> Cycle 4: Kane a lock, Kante depending on fitness. Gunter has a shout. Inaki Williams will represent Ghana :-(
> 3: Kane, Gunter and Veretout. Interesting that 2 of the 3 are players that milivella made me pick in the context of one of our bets.
>
>> Cycle 5: Rodri and Pope are locks (but the latter won't play much), Abraham maybe, Kimpembe likely to miss because of injury
> 3: Kimpembe, Pope and Rodri, Abraham and Ndombele scandalously left out.
>
>> Cycle 6: Slim pickings: Antony and Matheus
> 3: Adeyemi, Antony, Exequiel Palacios
>
>> Cycle 7: Maybe a bit more, but not that many starters
> 3: Araujo, Debast, Robert Sanchez

Cycle 4-7: 3 each.

Remarkable consistency!

> 16 in total. Meh.

Headline of the milivella Daily tomorrow:
Futbolmetrix HUMILIATED!

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 by: MH - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:22 UTC

On 2022-11-13 19:24, milivella wrote:
> Futbolmetrix:
>
>>> Cycle 1: Mueller should be a lock
>> check : 1
>>
>>> Cycle 2: Casemiro should be a lock, Walker if he's recovered from injury
>> check : 1
>>
>>> Cycle 3: We don't talk about Cycle 3 (Marquinhos a lock, Pogba out
>>> due to injury)
>> check: 1
>
> Cycles 1-3: 1 each.

No, 2 in cycle 2. Both Casemiro and walker were picked though Walker is
still injured I think.
>
>>> Cycle 4: Kane a lock, Kante depending on fitness. Gunter has a shout.
>>> Inaki Williams will represent Ghana :-(
>> 3: Kane, Gunter and Veretout. Interesting that 2 of the 3 are players
>> that milivella made me pick in the context of one of our bets.
>>
>>> Cycle 5: Rodri and Pope are locks (but the latter won't play much),
>>> Abraham maybe, Kimpembe likely to miss because of injury
>> 3: Kimpembe, Pope and Rodri, Abraham and Ndombele scandalously left out.
>>> Cycle 6: Slim pickings: Antony and Matheus
>> 3: Adeyemi, Antony,  Exequiel Palacios
>>
>>> Cycle 7: Maybe a bit more, but not that many starters
>> 3: Araujo, Debast, Robert Sanchez
>
> Cycle 4-7: 3 each.
>
> Remarkable consistency!
>
>> 16 in total. Meh.
>
> Headline of the milivella Daily tomorrow:
> Futbolmetrix HUMILIATED!

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 by: milivella - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:07 UTC

Most threatening players in Europe's top 5 leagues in 2022/23:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/yv4pqh/most_threatening_players_in_europes_top_5_leagues/

The ones you'd expect: Messi, Vinicius, Mbappe, Dembele, Neymar, Deulofeu...

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