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Well, well, well...

FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

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 by: Jesus Petry - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:31 UTC

Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> Well, well, well...
>
> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

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Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:

> Well, well, well...
> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

Had to be the 2 am PST game.
Watched a few in 2002, not this time.

-- HASM

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 by: The Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:37 UTC

In article <3f09d186-8e94-415d-8026-2d4d1921514cn@googlegroups.com>,
Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
>Well, well, well...
>
>FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

Yes!
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 by: The Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:37 UTC

In article <18993882-5d81-444a-859f-e0ee88e82d47n@googlegroups.com>,
Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
>Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix
>escreveu:
>> Well, well, well...
>>
>> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
>
> The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.
>
> Tchau!
> Jesus Petry

More to come!
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 by: LedZep IgaSwanTech - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:01 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:21:48 AM UTC-6, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Well, well, well...
>
> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

And now Tunisia draw against Denmark. The best chances were for the Tunisians.... who would have thought!

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 by: Al Kamista - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:07 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-5, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
> Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > Well, well, well...
> >
> > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
> The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.
>
> Tchau!
> Jesus Petry

Argentina was unlucky, with at least 2 of the offsides within a cat's whisker. But am I the only one who think they are massively overhyped as one of the favorites?

They have two aging stars in Messi and Di Maria, and one younger star in Martinez. The rest of the squad is quite underwhelming (for a so-called favorite). Recent form? They have been beating up on minnows all year. The only WC qualified team they faced this year, Ecuador, ended up in a draw.

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 by: KaiserD2 - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:19 UTC

Mexico-Poland: I thought the penalty was a terrible call. The
defender was initially between Lewandowski and the ball, so
Lewandowski tried to shove him out of the way. He naturally shoved
back. A penalty shouldn't be given in that situation. Mexico as a
team has fantastic ball control and I do wish they could have scored.

Argentina-Saudis--a world clas team like their should have been able
to adjust their runs to the offiside trap They didn't. Meanwhile
those were two great Saudi goals.

The rest of this group will be awesome.

David K

On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 07:01:25 -0800 (PST), LedZep IgaSwanTech
<krisraja777@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:21:48 AM UTC-6, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> Well, well, well...
>>
>> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
>
>And now Tunisia draw against Denmark. The best chances were for the Tunisians.... who would have thought!

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 by: LedZep IgaSwanTech - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:25 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-6, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-5, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > > Well, well, well...
> > >
> > > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
> > The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.
> >
> > Tchau!
> > Jesus Petry
> Argentina was unlucky, with at least 2 of the offsides within a cat's whisker. But am I the only one who think they are massively overhyped as one of the favorites?
>
> They have two aging stars in Messi and Di Maria, and one younger star in Martinez. The rest of the squad is quite underwhelming (for a so-called favorite). Recent form? They have been beating up on minnows all year. The only WC qualified team they faced this year, Ecuador, ended up in a draw.

Is Denmark overhyped as an underdog? They were pretty average against Tunisia who had many good chances to score.

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So what does the stat "defensive line breaks mean"?

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:25:18 p.m. UTC-5, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-6, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-5, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > > > Well, well, well...
> > > >
> > > > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
> > > The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.
> > >
> > > Tchau!
> > > Jesus Petry
> > Argentina was unlucky, with at least 2 of the offsides within a cat's whisker. But am I the only one who think they are massively overhyped as one of the favorites?
> >
> > They have two aging stars in Messi and Di Maria, and one younger star in Martinez. The rest of the squad is quite underwhelming (for a so-called favorite). Recent form? They have been beating up on minnows all year. The only WC qualified team they faced this year, Ecuador, ended up in a draw.
> Is Denmark overhyped as an underdog? They were pretty average against Tunisia who had many good chances to score.

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:21:48 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Well, well, well...
>
> FT: ARG - KSA 1-2

France look devastatingly good.

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 by: Lléo - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 22:04 UTC

Alkamista escreveu:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-5, Jesus Petry wrote:
> > Em terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2022 às 09:21:48 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix
> > escreveu:
> > > Well, well, well...
> > >
> > > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
>
> > The Cup has now started. It doesn't really start until the first upset.
>
> Argentina was unlucky, with at least 2 of the offsides within a cat's whisker.
> But am I the only one who think they are massively overhyped as one of the
> favorites?
>
> They have two aging stars in Messi and Di Maria, and one younger star in
> Martinez. The rest of the squad is quite underwhelming (for a so-called
> favorite). Recent form? They have been beating up on minnows all year. The
> only WC qualified team they faced this year, Ecuador, ended up in a draw.

I think they're a good team, though relatively modest in comparison with
other Argentinian teams we've seem in the last 15 or 20 years.

But I think most of their recent good form was due to them being on a roll.
A feedback of self-confidence that gained some inertia, next thing you see
they're almost setting a record unbeaten run.

And now this has been brought to a halt on the most abrupt way imaginable.

What effect this will have on their confidence remains to be seen. They do
have enough in the tank to overcome Poland and Mexico, IMHO, but the pressure
is truly on for them, as they need points in both games, at least winning one
of them. If they lose to Mexico, it's basically over.

Credit to the Saudis and to Hervé Renard. Had they blown one or two of those
high offside traps, it's at least 2-0 against at halftime and who knows whether
the floodgates would open? And those were very, very close calls. In the second
half, Mohammed Al-Owais saved them a number of times and there was a shot saved
almost at the line. They took a high risk and reaped a high reward.

Just read that the Saudi monarch decreed a holiday due to this result. Well,
it is one of the biggest upsets in World Cup history.

Best regards,

Lléo

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 by: LedZep IgaSwanTech - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 22:08 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 2:57:26 PM UTC-6, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:21:48 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Well, well, well...
> >
> > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
> France look devastatingly good.
Agreed. Odds for a Brazil-France final looks great.

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So which one is the worst European team so far?

Wales, Denmark or Poland... all three were lucky to draw their games.

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:11:04 p.m. UTC-5, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
> So which one is the worst European team so far?
>
> Wales, Denmark or Poland... all three were lucky to draw their games.
Wales

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On 2022-11-22 18:11, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:11:04 p.m. UTC-5, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
>> So which one is the worst European team so far?
>>
>> Wales, Denmark or Poland... all three were lucky to draw their games.
> Wales

Could there be a biscotto in the Wales England match, if Wales squeak a
win vs. Iran (which is a BIG IF in my opinion), and England manage to
control their arrogance enough to win vs. the USA (also not a given)?

I would imagine England would play a B side in the third match under
those circumstances anyway.

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:26:02 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
> So what does the stat "defensive line breaks mean"?

Yeah I was wondering that.

Anyway, France didn't look 3 goals better than Australia. A 2 goal winning margin would have been a fairer reflection of the balance of play.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:36 UTC

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 4:10:34 a.m. UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:26:02 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > So what does the stat "defensive line breaks mean"?
> Yeah I was wondering that.
>
> Anyway, France didn't look 3 goals better than Australia. A 2 goal winning margin would have been a fairer reflection of the balance of play.

"Defensive line break"

A player progresses the ball and breaks one or more unit lines of the opposition team shape.

Well I am glad that is all cleared up

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 by: Al Kamista - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:51 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:08:44 PM UTC-5, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 2:57:26 PM UTC-6, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:21:48 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > Well, well, well...
> > >
> > > FT: ARG - KSA 1-2
> > France look devastatingly good.
> Agreed. Odds for a Brazil-France final looks great.

Which means that it's almost certain that it won't happen.

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On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:36:30 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 4:10:34 a.m. UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:26:02 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > So what does the stat "defensive line breaks mean"?
> > Yeah I was wondering that.
> >
> > Anyway, France didn't look 3 goals better than Australia. A 2 goal winning margin would have been a fairer reflection of the balance of play.
> "Defensive line break"
>
> A player progresses the ball and breaks one or more unit lines of the opposition team shape.
>
> Well I am glad that is all cleared up

As clear as a muddy puddle.

The American sports psyche has a insatiable thirst for statistics. Not that it's all bad. Aren't assists an American sporting export?

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:11:46 PM UTC-6, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:11:04 p.m. UTC-5, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
> > So which one is the worst European team so far?
> >
> > Wales, Denmark or Poland... all three were lucky to draw their games.
> Wales
I disagree... it is Germany.... they are the only European team to lose the 1st match now.

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Binder Dundat wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:11:04 p.m. UTC-5, LedZep
> IgaSwanTech wrote:
> > So which one is the worst European team so far?
> >
> > Wales, Denmark or Poland... all three were lucky to draw their
> > games.
>
> Wales

Germany!

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On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:02:05 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:36:30 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 4:10:34 a.m. UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:26:02 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > So what does the stat "defensive line breaks mean"?
> > > Yeah I was wondering that.
> > >
> > > Anyway, France didn't look 3 goals better than Australia. A 2 goal winning margin would have been a fairer reflection of the balance of play.
> > "Defensive line break"
> >
> > A player progresses the ball and breaks one or more unit lines of the opposition team shape.
> >
> > Well I am glad that is all cleared up
> As clear as a muddy puddle.
>

Yeah what's a unit line?

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