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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:47 UTC

"Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."

Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/

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 by: Mark - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:58 UTC

News <News@group.name> wrote:
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> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>
> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>
> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/

Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?

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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:02 UTC

On 8/2/2021 9:58 AM, Mark wrote:
> News <News@group.name> wrote:
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>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>

As opposed to a 'small mistake'?

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 by: Mark - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:16 UTC

News <News@group.name> wrote:
> On 8/2/2021 9:58 AM, Mark wrote:
>> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>>
>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>
>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>
>> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>
> As opposed to a 'small mistake'?

I think it's possible for it to be neither...and I think it was neither.

Ahead of the race, the commentators on my feed foresaw a crash at the
first corner, reasoning that not only had the rain come along late, but
also that the drivers had no reference points for how their cars would
react in those conditions. I think the main surprise was that it would
be Bottas who fouled up the most.

I don't see it as a *small* mistake, but I don't think it was
intentional.

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 by: Sir Tim - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:20 UTC

Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>
>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>

I think that there are some poor saps who actually believe that to be the
case.

--
Sir Tim

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 by: Slang - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:54 UTC

Il 02/08/2021 15:58, Mark ha scritto:
> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>
>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>

The alternative could be a Stuka attack from the sky or a Panzer
battalion located at the track side in the slower corner.

However, to be taken only as an extreme measure ;-).....
S

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 by: Bigbird - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 16:34 UTC

News wrote:

> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>
> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>
> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/

Resorting to fuckwitted trolling now, I see. Poor little bigot.

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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:12 UTC

On 8/2/2021 12:34 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> News wrote:
>
>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
> Resorting to fuckwitted trolling now, I see. Poor little bigot.
>

Need a whaambulance, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered cunt?

> “As I said it’s a small mistake that caused such a big accident, costing them a lot of points, and a possible two cars on the podium, so we are sorry for that."
What's Machiavelli's next move, after the break?

He'll surely need to command another series of 'mistakes'.

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 by: Bigbird - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:42 UTC

News wrote:

> On 8/2/2021 12:34 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> > News wrote:
> >
> > > "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat
> > > 86."
> > >
> > > Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
> > >
> > > https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
> >
> > Resorting to fuckwitted trolling now, I see. Poor little bigot.
> >
>
> Need a whaambulance, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered
> cunt?
>
> > “As I said it’s a small mistake that caused such a big accident,
> > costing them a lot of points, and a possible two cars on the
> > podium, so we are sorry for that."
> What's Machiavelli's next move, after the break?
>
> He'll surely need to command another series of 'mistakes'.

A simple yes would have sufficed, fuckwit.

--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Enjoy!

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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:47 UTC

On 8/2/2021 1:42 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> News wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2021 12:34 PM, Bigbird wrote:
>>> News wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat
>>>> 86."
>>>>
>>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>>
>>> Resorting to fuckwitted trolling now, I see. Poor little bigot.
>>>
>>
>> Need a whaambulance, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered
>> cunt?
>>
>>> “As I said it’s a small mistake that caused such a big accident,
>>> costing them a lot of points, and a possible two cars on the
>>> podium, so we are sorry for that."
>> What's Machiavelli's next move, after the break?
>>
>> He'll surely need to command another series of 'mistakes'.
>
> A simple yes would have sufficed, fuckwit.
>

Whaambulance dispatched, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered cunt.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.f1
Subject: Re:_Wolff_apologises_to_Red_Bull_for_Bottas’_
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 by: Alan Baker - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:56 UTC

On 2021-08-02 6:47 a.m., News wrote:
> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>
> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>
> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
>
>

You are officially an ignoramus.

No matter how machiavellian you want to paint Mercedes as being, there
is simply no way to have orchestrated that accident.

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 by: Alan Baker - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:57 UTC

On 2021-08-02 7:16 a.m., Mark wrote:
> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>> On 8/2/2021 9:58 AM, Mark wrote:
>>> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>>>
>>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>>
>>> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>>
>> As opposed to a 'small mistake'?
>
> I think it's possible for it to be neither...and I think it was neither.
>
> Ahead of the race, the commentators on my feed foresaw a crash at the
> first corner, reasoning that not only had the rain come along late, but
> also that the drivers had no reference points for how their cars would
> react in those conditions. I think the main surprise was that it would
> be Bottas who fouled up the most.
>
> I don't see it as a *small* mistake, but I don't think it was
> intentional.
>

I'd agree with that.

It was a large mistake, if only because the consequences for getting it
wrong were so potentially large.

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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 18:23 UTC

On 8/2/2021 1:56 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-08-02 6:47 a.m., News wrote:
>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are officially an ignoramus.
>
> No matter how machiavellian you want to paint Mercedes as being, there
> is simply no way to have orchestrated that accident.

Wait 'til the Merc 'team' driver takes out the RB transporter.

Now FOAD-yourself.

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 by: Alan Baker - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 18:32 UTC

On 2021-08-02 11:23 a.m., News wrote:
> On 8/2/2021 1:56 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-08-02 6:47 a.m., News wrote:
>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>>
>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>
>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You are officially an ignoramus.
>>
>> No matter how machiavellian you want to paint Mercedes as being, there
>> is simply no way to have orchestrated that accident.
>
>
> Wait 'til the Merc 'team' driver takes out the RB transporter.
>
> Now FOAD-yourself.

Any time you want to stop making yourself look foolish, you go right
ahead, Gutless.

:-)

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 by: News - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 19:04 UTC

On 8/2/2021 2:32 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-08-02 11:23 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 8/2/2021 1:56 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-08-02 6:47 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>>>
>>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are officially an ignoramus.
>>>
>>> No matter how machiavellian you want to paint Mercedes as being,
>>> there is simply no way to have orchestrated that accident.
>>
>>
>> Wait 'til the Merc 'team' driver takes out the RB transporter.
>>
>> Now FOAD-yourself.
>
> Any time you want to stop making yourself look foolish, you go right
> ahead, Gutless.
>
> :-)

Any time you want to stop taking the bait... pedant.

<gratuitous smiley-face>

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 by: Bigbird - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 22:16 UTC

News wrote:

> On 8/2/2021 1:42 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> > News wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/2/2021 12:34 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > News wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat
> > > > > 86."
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
> > > >
> > > > Resorting to fuckwitted trolling now, I see. Poor little bigot.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Need a whaambulance, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered
> > > cunt?
> > >
> > > > “As I said it’s a small mistake that caused such a big accident,
> > > > costing them a lot of points, and a possible two cars on the
> > > > podium, so we are sorry for that."
> > > What's Machiavelli's next move, after the break?
> > >
> > > He'll surely need to command another series of 'mistakes'.
> >
> > A simple yes would have sufficed, fuckwit.
> >
>
> Whaambulance dispatched, you deviant, flightless, feckless, blinkered
> cunt.

Dickless 14 year old mimic said what now?

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On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 4:16:46 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Dickless 14 year old mimic said what now?

logoff you sad troll

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 by: Phil Carmody - Thu, 5 Aug 2021 12:48 UTC

Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:
> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>
>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>
>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>
>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>
> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?

Trolls gotta troll.

We, however, are not obliged to read or respond.

Phil
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 by: News - Thu, 5 Aug 2021 13:53 UTC

On 8/5/2021 8:48 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:
>> News <News@group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Valteri, the championship is just one more RB DNF away. Strat 86."
>>>
>>> Did Machiavelli apologize by email, with punt vector drawings?
>>>
>>> https://www.planetf1.com/news/toto-wolff-red-bull-apology/
>>
>> Are you *seriously* considering this to be a deliberate strategy?
>
> Trolls gotta troll.
>
> We, however, are not obliged to read or respond.
>
> Phil
>

Your dull response noted.

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