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by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:28 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:22:52 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> On 1.12.2022. 21:21, Real Mardin wrote:
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> > So if I’ve read the right if Spain finishes second they avoid Croatia in the second round and also Brazil in the quarter final? Instead they’d get Morocco and potentially Portugal?
> Exactly, makes sense to conserve strength.

Yes, conserve strength for going back to their domestic championships...

LOL

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by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:30 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:22:52 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> > On 1.12.2022. 21:21, Real Mardin wrote:
> >
> > > So if I’ve read the right if Spain finishes second they avoid Croatia in the second round and also Brazil in the quarter final? Instead they’d get Morocco and potentially Portugal?
> > Exactly, makes sense to conserve strength.
> Yes, conserve strength for going back to their domestic championships...
>
> LOL

Tico dream didn't last long. 2-2, and Spain breathes

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:30:17 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
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> >OMG.
> >
> >Spain and Germany OUT right now.
> and 2-2...
> --
> Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

Japan 2 - Spain 1 (77 minutes)

A score line previously only seen in the arcade game Tecmo World Cup 90......

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by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:45 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:36:03 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:30:17 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
> > Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> > >OMG.
> > >
> > >Spain and Germany OUT right now.
> > and 2-2...
> > --
> > Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> > Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08
> Japan 2 - Spain 1 (77 minutes)
>
> A score line previously only seen in the arcade game Tecmo World Cup 90......
>

Germany finally take the lead. They just need 6 more goals in 2 minutes plus injury time...switching to Japan-France

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:36:03 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:30:17 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
> > > Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> > > >OMG.
> > > >
> > > >Spain and Germany OUT right now.
> > > and 2-2...
> > > --
> > > Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> > > Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08
> > Japan 2 - Spain 1 (77 minutes)
> >
> > A score line previously only seen in the arcade game Tecmo World Cup 90......
> >
> Germany finally take the lead. They just need 6 more goals in 2 minutes plus injury time...switching to Japan-France

Shockingly, they are not biscotto-ing it.

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by: vedran - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:49 UTC

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by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:52 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:49:00 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:36:03 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:30:17 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
> > > > Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> > > > >OMG.
> > > > >
> > > > >Spain and Germany OUT right now.
> > > > and 2-2...
> > > > --
> > > > Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> > > > Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08
> > > Japan 2 - Spain 1 (77 minutes)
> > >
> > > A score line previously only seen in the arcade game Tecmo World Cup 90......
> > >
> > Germany finally take the lead. They just need 6 more goals in 2 minutes plus injury time...switching to Japan-France
>
> Shockingly, they are not biscotto-ing it.

Perhaps they're afraid of an unprecedented cancellation wave for Mallorca...

Ciao,
Werner

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:49:43 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> On 1.12.2022. 21:22, vedran wrote:
>
> > Exactly, makes sense to conserve strength.
> >
> Let's see how much Spain will bother now, Olmo missed in 90th minute.

They were attacking, but not exactly desperate.

FT: JPN - ESP 2-1

Both go through, Spain avoids the Brazil side of the draw.

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by: Real Mardin - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:56 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:52:39 PM UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:49:00 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:36:03 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:30:17 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
> > > > > Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> > > > > >OMG.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Spain and Germany OUT right now.
> > > > > and 2-2...
> > > > > --
> > > > > Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> > > > > Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08
> > > > Japan 2 - Spain 1 (77 minutes)
> > > >
> > > > A score line previously only seen in the arcade game Tecmo World Cup 90......
> > > >
> > > Germany finally take the lead. They just need 6 more goals in 2 minutes plus injury time...switching to Japan-France
> >
> > Shockingly, they are not biscotto-ing it.
> Perhaps they're afraid of an unprecedented cancellation wave for Mallorca...
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

What a day to have picked Belgium and Germany for my Eurocrotto entry.......*s*

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by: vedran - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:58 UTC

On 1.12.2022. 21:56, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> They were attacking, but not exactly desperate.
>
> FT: JPN - ESP 2-1
>
> Both go through, Spain avoids the Brazil side of the draw.
>

Yes, that was the point and I see many share this opinion.
Thank you, Olmo, we avoided another knock out by Spain, but
that can happen soon on Nations League final.

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by: Al Kamista - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:00 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:56:05 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:49:43 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> > On 1.12.2022. 21:22, vedran wrote:
> >
> > > Exactly, makes sense to conserve strength.
> > >
> > Let's see how much Spain will bother now, Olmo missed in 90th minute.
> They were attacking, but not exactly desperate.
>
> FT: JPN - ESP 2-1
>
> Both go through, Spain avoids the Brazil side of the draw.

On the bright side for Germany, at least they made it to the Europa League.

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by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:01 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:58:33 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> On 1.12.2022. 21:56, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> > They were attacking, but not exactly desperate.
> >
> > FT: JPN - ESP 2-1
> >
> > Both go through, Spain avoids the Brazil side of the draw.
> >
> Yes, that was the point and I see many share this opinion.
> Thank you, Olmo, we avoided another knock out by Spain, but
> that can happen soon on Nations League final.

So the draw now likely will have all the remaining European big guns on one side, ARG-BRA (and NED) on the other

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by: vedran - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:07 UTC

On 1.12.2022. 22:01, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> So the draw now likely will have all the remaining European big guns on one side, ARG-BRA (and NED) on the other

Media were so annoying with Croatia - Serbia QF, this can't happen now.
But we, as small guns, are 1 big step away from QF with most likely
Brazil, scary thought.

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On 2022-12-01 10:07, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 4:57:09 PM UTC, anders t wrote:
>> Best CAF WC ever?
>
> So far two CAF sides through to the second round, which matches 2014 when Algeria and Nigeria did the same. If either Cameroon or Ghana make it through this will be the best since 2014 in terms of sides in the second round (perhaps best ever, can’t check right now).

1982. None (both Algeria and Cameroon did well though)
1986 Only Morocco IIRC - they won their group
1990 Cameroon
1994 Nigeria
1998 Nigeria (Morocco kind of unlucky
2002 Senegal
2006 Ghana
2010 Ghana
2014 Nigeria and Algeria
2018 Three third places, 2 4ths

Two would equal the best ever, 3 would exceed it.

>
>
> RM
>
>>
>> --
>> Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
>> Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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by: FF - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:03 UTC

So in the end, as I correctly predicted, Germany didn't make it. ;)
What the heck. Who would have seen it coming. But then it does make sense, to finish second in the group to avoid Brazil they needed to get beaten. It could have backfired if CRC had won, but that was extremely unlikely and didn't happen in the end. So it's a good chance this is actually what Spain wanted.

Anyway, so Japan wins the group and Germany are out, and Morocco wins theirs and Belgium are out. Truly a World Cup of surprises.

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by: FF - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:12 UTC

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:03:29 AM UTC+2, FF wrote:
> So in the end, as I correctly predicted, Germany didn't make it. ;)
> What the heck. Who would have seen it coming. But then it does make sense, to finish second in the group to avoid Brazil they needed to get beaten. It could have backfired if CRC had won, but that was extremely unlikely and didn't happen in the end. So it's a good chance this is actually what Spain wanted.
>
> Anyway, so Japan wins the group and Germany are out, and Morocco wins theirs and Belgium are out. Truly a World Cup of surprises.

If Brazil win their group, which they should, then both Spain and Brazil have relatively easy paths to the semis.

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by: Mark - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 11:28 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:56:05 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:49:43 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
> > On 1.12.2022. 21:22, vedran wrote:
> >
> > > Exactly, makes sense to conserve strength.
> > >
> > Let's see how much Spain will bother now, Olmo missed in 90th minute.
> They were attacking, but not exactly desperate.
>
> FT: JPN - ESP 2-1
>
> Both go through, Spain avoids the Brazil side of the draw.

So Japan beat Germany AND Spain! (and lost against Costa Rica!). Is Binder projecting Japan to win the World Cup now?

What changed for Japan at half-time? Spain looked totally dominant in the 1st half! They looked about 3 goals better than Japan! In the 2nd half it was like it was a completely different team that was playing against Spain. That match certainly fitted the definition of the cliche a game of 2 halves!

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Re: WC2022 Day 12: CAN-MOR CRO-BEL CRC-GER JPN-ESP [R]	vedran
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Re: WC2022 Day 12: CAN-MOR CRO-BEL CRC-GER JPN-ESP [R]	vedran
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Re: WC2022 Day 12: CAN-MOR CRO-BEL CRC-GER JPN-ESP [R]	vedran
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Re: WC2022 Day 12: CAN-MOR CRO-BEL CRC-GER JPN-ESP [R]	anders t
Re: WC2022 Day 12: CAN-MOR CRO-BEL CRC-GER JPN-ESP [R]	Futbolmetrix
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