Let's keep things in order

JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs

BRA- KOR

6' 1-0 Vini Jr,

Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Let's keep things in order
>
> JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
>
> BRA- KOR
>
> 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
>
> Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout

Neymar, PK 2-0

(embarrassing dive by Richarlison)
(Also, both Neymar and the keeper did a stupid pantomime, just shoot it!)

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:14:42 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Let's keep things in order
> >
> > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> >
> > BRA- KOR
> >
> > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> >
> > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> Neymar, PK 2-0
>
> (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)

Looks like in the age of the video ref many PKs considered by wannabe experts dives are in fact legitimate PKs. Hopefully this will be applied consistently and in a few years everybody gets it. (One of the reasons of the downfall of Italy ...)

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:30:40 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:14:42 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > Let's keep things in order
> > >
> > > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> > >
> > > BRA- KOR
> > >
> > > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> > >
> > > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> > Neymar, PK 2-0

37' 4-0

Korea should have remained compact and tried to hit on the break, even at 2-0 down after 10 minutes (what Costa Rica did against Germany). Leaving all that space behind to Vini-Ney-Raphinha-Richarlison is a recipe for disaster.

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:40:36 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> 37' 4-0
>
> Korea should have remained compact and tried to hit on the break, even at 2-0 down after 10 minutes (what Costa Rica did against Germany). Leaving all that space behind to Vini-Ney-Raphinha-Richarlison is a recipe for disaster.

Are you on something ?
1. If they try to hit on the break, the game is dead at 2 - 0. They are the ones who need to attack.
2. Brazil are a strong team, unlike Germany. They know what they're doing.
3. Costa Rica was defeated by Germany.

Seriously, I have to wonder how somebody writing such nonsense is considered by some an expert.

Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:14:42 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Let's keep things in order
> >
> > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs

Does Japan even practice penalty kicks? Three very poor shots there.

> > BRA- KOR
> >
> > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> >
> > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> Neymar, PK 2-0
>
> (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)

Very nice play on the 3-0, though.

> (Also, both Neymar and the keeper did a stupid pantomime, just shoot it!)

I'm with you on that one, just run and shoot already, even if Panenka-style..
Pantomimes during the run-up should always end embarassingly for the shooter.

--
Lléo

On 5.12.2022. 20:09, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Let's keep things in order
>
> JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs

Apparently, if you write "Dalic's luck" on one of our forums you'll get
banned.
Funny, he subbed on Budimir, then subbed him off in ET for Livaja who
missed a penalty.

> Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout

I think parking the bus is a valid tactics on Friday to avoid just that.
They can even rest key players now.

Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 17:00:23 UTC-3, vedran escreveu:
> On 5.12.2022. 20:09, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
>
> I think parking the bus is a valid tactics on Friday to avoid just that.
> They can even rest key players now.

4-0 up that would probably be the smart thing to do, especially so regarding Neymar,
given he's recovering from injury. But Tite brought the full team back for the second half

--
Lléo

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:51:16 PM UTC+2, FF wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:40:36 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > 37' 4-0
> >
> > Korea should have remained compact and tried to hit on the break, even at 2-0 down after 10 minutes (what Costa Rica did against Germany). Leaving all that space behind to Vini-Ney-Raphinha-Richarlison is a recipe for disaster.
> Are you on something ?
> 1. If they try to hit on the break, the game is dead at 2 - 0. They are the ones who need to attack.
> 2. Brazil are a strong team, unlike Germany. They know what they're doing..
> 3. Costa Rica was defeated by Germany.
>
> Seriously, I have to wonder how somebody writing such nonsense is considered by some an expert.

I have to say that, while your post did feel incredibly stupid, AFAIK you don't usually post such nonsense here. So, I don't know, maybe you just had a bad moment. (Probably just can't stand Brazil doing so well. Especially with Italy watching it on TV.) So I apologize for being too dismissive.

That said, Brazil won 4 - 1 FT. Not many surprises in the round of 16 so far. If Spain and Portugal make it too tomorrow, the quarters will be full strength. And then the Cup can actually begin.

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 8:00:04 PM UTC, Lléo wrote:
> Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:14:42 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > Let's keep things in order
> > >
> > > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> Does Japan even practice penalty kicks? Three very poor shots there.

I've seen worse. At least they were all on target.

> > > BRA- KOR
> > >
> > > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> > >
> > > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> > Neymar, PK 2-0
> >
> > (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)
> Very nice play on the 3-0, though.

How did Uruguay only draw with South Korea?! If yesterday's result is any indication of how bad South Korea are, then I fear Uruguay may not reach another World Cup semi-final or win another Copa America for decades.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:27:31 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 8:00:04 PM UTC, Lléo wrote:
> > Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:14:42 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > Let's keep things in order
> > > >
> > > > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> > Does Japan even practice penalty kicks? Three very poor shots there.
> I've seen worse. At least they were all on target.
> > > > BRA- KOR
> > > >
> > > > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> > > >
> > > > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> > > Neymar, PK 2-0
> > >
> > > (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)
> > Very nice play on the 3-0, though.
> How did Uruguay only draw with South Korea?!

Is this your first World Cup?

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:49:14 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:27:31 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 8:00:04 PM UTC, Lléo wrote:
> > > Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:14:42 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > Let's keep things in order
> > > > >
> > > > > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> > > Does Japan even practice penalty kicks? Three very poor shots there.
> > I've seen worse. At least they were all on target.
> > > > > BRA- KOR
> > > > >
> > > > > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> > > > >
> > > > > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> > > > Neymar, PK 2-0
> > > >
> > > > (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)
> > > Very nice play on the 3-0, though.
> > How did Uruguay only draw with South Korea?!
> Is this your first World Cup?

No, I saw Uruguay reach the semi-final (and beat South Korea on their way there) in 2010, and beat the European Champions among others on their way to the quarter-finals, where they played the eventual winners, in 2018 too. Before this World Cup, there was evidence that Uruguay are a good team.

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:51:48 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:49:14 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:27:31 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 8:00:04 PM UTC, Lléo wrote:
> > > > Em segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:14:42 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:09:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > Let's keep things in order
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JPN-CRO 1-1 , Croatia wins on PKs
> > > > Does Japan even practice penalty kicks? Three very poor shots there..
> > > I've seen worse. At least they were all on target.
> > > > > > BRA- KOR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 6' 1-0 Vini Jr,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Amateurish defender by the Korean LB. This is going to be a Brazilian blowout
> > > > > Neymar, PK 2-0
> > > > >
> > > > > (embarrassing dive by Richarlison)
> > > > Very nice play on the 3-0, though.
> > > How did Uruguay only draw with South Korea?!
> > Is this your first World Cup?
> No, I saw Uruguay reach the semi-final (and beat South Korea on their way there) in 2010, and beat the European Champions among others on their way to the quarter-finals, where they played the eventual winners, in 2018 too. Before this World Cup, there was evidence that Uruguay are a good team.

They are a good team.

But the better team on paper doesn't always win. There are far better examples of that than Uruguay drawing with Korea.Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, France lost to Tunisia, Brazil lost to Cameroon.

That's why your question was very naive.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:47:32 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:51:48 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:

> > > > How did Uruguay only draw with South Korea?!
> > > Is this your first World Cup?
> > No, I saw Uruguay reach the semi-final (and beat South Korea on their way there) in 2010, and beat the European Champions among others on their way to the quarter-finals, where they played the eventual winners, in 2018 too. Before this World Cup, there was evidence that Uruguay are a good team.
> They are a good team.
>
> But the better team on paper doesn't always win. There are far better examples of that than Uruguay drawing with Korea.Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, France lost to Tunisia, Brazil lost to Cameroon.
>
> That's why your question was very naive.

But it's not just the draw with South Korea. They played badly and lost against Portugal too; and they've not reached the semi-final of the Copa America or World Cup since 2011. I think Uruguay might be going through a period of further decline.