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by: Blueshirt - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:39 UTC

Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games = more
money.

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/9913491/fifa-launch-club-world-cup-thirty-two-teams-clubs/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11545701/Gianni-Infantino-confirms-FIFA-launch-32-team-mens-Club-World-Cup-2025.html

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by: Ammammata - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:10 UTC

Blueshirt has brought this to us :
> More teams = more games = more
> money.

and again more chances for Italy to qualify ;-)

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by: Blueshirt - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:31 UTC

Ammammata wrote:

> Blueshirt has brought this to us :
> > More teams = more games = more
> > money.
>
> and again more chances for Italy to qualify ;-)

It's a club tournament so with 32 teams taking part so I assume an
Italian club would be involved anyway...

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by: Ammammata - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:39 UTC

Blueshirt brought next idea :
> Ammammata wrote:
>
>> Blueshirt has brought this to us :
>>> More teams = more games = more
>>> money.
>>
>> and again more chances for Italy to qualify ;-)
>
> It's a club tournament so with 32 teams taking part so I assume an
> Italian club would be involved anyway...

I missed the "club" word :-(

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by: Blueshirt - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 19:53 UTC

Ammammata wrote:

> Blueshirt brought next idea :
> > Ammammata wrote:
> >
> > > Blueshirt has brought this to us :
> > > > More teams = more games = more
> > > > money.
> > >
> > > and again more chances for Italy to qualify ;-)
> >
> > It's a club tournament so with 32 teams taking part so I assume an
> > Italian club would be involved anyway...
>
> I missed the "club" word :-(

I have a feeling that some European leagues will object to the
proposal... and they will continue with their steadfast principled
opposition until FIFA promise them the sun, moon and stars ... and very
possibly a bag of cash!

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by: Futbolmetrix - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:55 UTC

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:53:26 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:

> I have a feeling that some European leagues will object to the
> proposal... and they will continue with their steadfast principled
> opposition until FIFA promise them the sun, moon and stars ... and very
> possibly a bag of cash!

Just don't call it a Superleague!

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by: Mark - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:18 UTC

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:39:27 AM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
> their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games = more
> money.
>
> https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/9913491/fifa-launch-club-world-cup-thirty-two-teams-clubs/
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11545701/Gianni-Infantino-confirms-FIFA-launch-32-team-mens-Club-World-Cup-2025.html

32 isn't a multiple of 6 though. Is it going to be 6 from each of South America and Europe and 5 each from the other continents, or what?

And if this is going to be every 4 years, why are they having one for 2022?

And why is the 2022 Club World Cup being played in 2023? Further evidence that playing the World Cup in Qatar in December was a bad idea?

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by: Blueshirt - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 12:21 UTC

Mark wrote:

> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:39:27 AM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> > Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
> > their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games =
> > more money.
>
> And if this is going to be every 4 years, why are they having one for
> 2022?

I would expect FIFA to continue with their annual CWC tournament 'as
is' until they launch the expanded version.
> And why is the 2022 Club World Cup being played in 2023? Further
> evidence that playing the World Cup in Qatar in December was a bad
> idea?

FWIW, the 2021 FIFA World Club Cup was played in 2022.

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by: Mark - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 12:47 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 12:21:08 PM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:39:27 AM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> > > Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
> > > their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games =
> > > more money.
> >
> > And if this is going to be every 4 years, why are they having one for
> > 2022?
> I would expect FIFA to continue with their annual CWC tournament 'as
> is' until they launch the expanded version.
> > And why is the 2022 Club World Cup being played in 2023? Further
> > evidence that playing the World Cup in Qatar in December was a bad
> > idea?
> FWIW, the 2021 FIFA World Club Cup was played in 2022.

Yeah that was weird too. The 2020 Club World Cup was postponed to 2021 because of the Covid-19 pandemic. But since then, there doesn't seem to be much reason to be playing it in the following year.

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by: MH - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 17:30 UTC

On 2022-12-17 01:18, Mark wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:39:27 AM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
>> Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
>> their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games = more
>> money.
>>
>> https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/9913491/fifa-launch-club-world-cup-thirty-two-teams-clubs/
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11545701/Gianni-Infantino-confirms-FIFA-launch-32-team-mens-Club-World-Cup-2025.html
>
> 32 isn't a multiple of 6 though. Is it going to be 6 from each of South America and Europe and 5 each from the other continents, or what?

I doubt it would be equal representation from each confederation.
Weird that they would not try 16 as a first step, though.

No details on format, but my guess would be that the winners and runners
up of the CL from the previous four years, or perhaps winners of the
EUropa league and CL, would get invited. With adjustments made for
double winners in some mysterious fashion.

Same thing for LIbertadores and possibly Sudamericana.

Then a smaller number of qualifiers from the minor confederations - last
4 winners of their competition.

Add in one from Oceania, hosts, and some other fudge factor and you get
to 32. Pressure from big clubs might make it a straight knockout
competition.

8 Europe, 8 South American, 4 CAF, 4 AFC, 4 Concacaf, 1 host, 1 Oceania,
2 extra special invites ?

>
> And if this is going to be every 4 years, why are they having one for 2022?
>
> And why is the 2022 Club World Cup being played in 2023? Further evidence that playing the World Cup in Qatar in December was a bad idea?

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Subject: Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans
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by: Real Mardin - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 19:33 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:30:10 PM UTC, MH wrote:
> On 2022-12-17 01:18, Mark wrote:
> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:39:27 AM UTC, Blueshirt wrote:
> >> Well, who would have guessed it... FIFA propose to go forward with
> >> their 32 team Club World Cup for 2025. More teams = more games = more
> >> money.
> >>
> >> https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/9913491/fifa-launch-club-world-cup-thirty-two-teams-clubs/
> >>
> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11545701/Gianni-Infantino-confirms-FIFA-launch-32-team-mens-Club-World-Cup-2025.html
> >
> > 32 isn't a multiple of 6 though. Is it going to be 6 from each of South America and Europe and 5 each from the other continents, or what?
> I doubt it would be equal representation from each confederation.
> Weird that they would not try 16 as a first step, though.
>
> No details on format, but my guess would be that the winners and runners
> up of the CL from the previous four years, or perhaps winners of the
> EUropa league and CL, would get invited. With adjustments made for
> double winners in some mysterious fashion.
>
> Same thing for LIbertadores and possibly Sudamericana.
>
> Then a smaller number of qualifiers from the minor confederations - last
> 4 winners of their competition.
>
> Add in one from Oceania, hosts,

Qatar has some nice new grounds to host the tournament in!

and some other fudge factor and you get
> to 32. Pressure from big clubs might make it a straight knockout
> competition.
>
> 8 Europe, 8 South American, 4 CAF, 4 AFC, 4 Concacaf, 1 host, 1 Oceania,
> 2 extra special invites ?
> >
> > And if this is going to be every 4 years, why are they having one for 2022?
> >
> > And why is the 2022 Club World Cup being played in 2023? Further evidence that playing the World Cup in Qatar in December was a bad idea?

Subject	Author
[News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Blueshirt
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Ammammata
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Blueshirt
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Ammammata
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Blueshirt
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Futbolmetrix
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Mark
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Blueshirt
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Mark
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	MH
Re: [News] FIFA President Confirms CWC Plans	Real Mardin