Well, I pretty much missed all of that being away and no access to an F1
supplier. At least there was some racing!

The top 5 are currently:

1 Sreekumar A 204
2 Sir Tim 202
3 JohnM 194
4 Shaun 190
5 Dex 186

The people who scored points are:

5 Dex 26
7 Phil Carmody 26
1 Sreekumar A 26
13 Alan Baker 20
13 Ar 20
6 Hornplayer9599 20
3 JohnM 20
13 Mark Jackson 20
10 Martin Harran 20
4 Shaun 20
2 Sir Tim 20
9 Jimbo 18
16 Darryl Johnson 14
12 ceg 12
10 EB5AGV 12
7 Mark 12
17 D Munz 8

Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
;-)

Mark

The overall table looks like:

1 Mark 18 12 18 26 6 0 18 12 16 14
8 8 12 168
2 Darryl Johnson 8 24 16 12 6 0 12 16 12 2
6 8 14 136
3 Mark Jackson 14 18 12 12 10 0 12 12 12 16
8 8 20 154
4 Ar 10 14 10 12 10 0 16 18 18 2
6 18 20 154
5 Sir Tim 14 18 12 24 10 0 26 26 16 14
8 14 20 202
6 D Munz 8 20 18 12 0 0 18 14 6 10
8 4 8 126
7 Jimbo 18 10 26 20 6 0 8 18 10 14
6 10 18 164
8 Martin Harran 18 12 18 18 6 0 20 14 8 12
6 10 20 162
9 Sreekumar A 20 18 12 26 10 0 20 20 12 16
8 16 26 204
10 Hornplayer9599 14 18 18 18 12 0 12 18 12 4
8 16 20 170
11 Dex 12 20 12 20 2 0 24 20 10 16
10 14 26 186
12 ceg 20 18 12 12 16 6 12 16 4 16
6 8 12 158
13 Shaun 24 14 18 26 6 0 12 18 16 16
12 8 20 190
14 EB5AGV 14 18 18 26 6 0 12 18 12 10
8 8 12 162
15 Phil Carmody 14 18 12 18 6 0 12 20 12 8
8 14 26 168
16 JohnM 18 12 18 26 6 6 18 20 12 14
8 16 20 194
17 Alan Baker - 18 12 18 10 0 18 12 12 8
10 16 20 154
18 fnot - - - - - - - - - -
- 16 - 16

Ordered by points:

1 Sreekumar A 20 18 12 26 10 0 20 20 12 16
8 16 26 204
2 Sir Tim 14 18 12 24 10 0 26 26 16 14
8 14 20 202
3 JohnM 18 12 18 26 6 6 18 20 12 14
8 16 20 194
4 Shaun 24 14 18 26 6 0 12 18 16 16
12 8 20 190
5 Dex 12 20 12 20 2 0 24 20 10 16
10 14 26 186
6 Hornplayer9599 14 18 18 18 12 0 12 18 12 4
8 16 20 170
7 Mark 18 12 18 26 6 0 18 12 16 14
8 8 12 168
7 Phil Carmody 14 18 12 18 6 0 12 20 12 8
8 14 26 168
9 Jimbo 18 10 26 20 6 0 8 18 10 14
6 10 18 164
10 EB5AGV 14 18 18 26 6 0 12 18 12 10
8 8 12 162
10 Martin Harran 18 12 18 18 6 0 20 14 8 12
6 10 20 162
12 ceg 20 18 12 12 16 6 12 16 4 16
6 8 12 158
13 Alan Baker - 18 12 18 10 0 18 12 12 8
10 16 20 154
13 Ar 10 14 10 12 10 0 16 18 18 2
6 18 20 154
13 Mark Jackson 14 18 12 12 10 0 12 12 12 16
8 8 20 154
16 Darryl Johnson 8 24 16 12 6 0 12 16 12 2
6 8 14 136
17 D Munz 8 20 18 12 0 0 18 14 6 10
8 4 8 126
18 fnot - - - - - - - - - -
- 16 - 16

DUPLICATOR RANKER1 RANKER2 RESULTS
1. BAH HAM VER HAM VER
HAM VER LEC HAM RIC VET HAM RIC VET HAM VER BOT
18 18 4/20 12 12 14/20 10 10 16/20
2. EMI VER VER HAM HAM
HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT VER HAM NOR
12 30 11/20 12 24 17/20 14 24 17/20
3. POR HAM VER VER BOT
VER HAM NOR VER HAM BOT VER HAM BOT HAM VER BOT
12 42 16/20 18 42 16/20 18 42 16/20
4. SPA BOT VER HAM HAM
HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT
24 66 10/20 24 66 10/20 26 68 7/20
5. MON HAM VER HAM LEC
HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT HAM VER BOT VER SAI NOR
6 72 8/20 6 72 8/20 6 74 4/20

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:

> 13 Alan Baker 20

> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!

Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
That is in violation of the rules.
It is not fair to the other participants.
If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
and has no credibility.
Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.

texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>
>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>
> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
> That is in violation of the rules.
> It is not fair to the other participants.
> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
> and has no credibility.
> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.

#1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
the table.
#2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
#3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.

Happy (as always) to receive challenges on decisions from participants.

Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>
>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>
>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>> That is in violation of the rules.
>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>> and has no credibility.
>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>
> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
> the table.
> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.

P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races. I
do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.

Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>>
>>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>>
>>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>>> That is in violation of the rules.
>>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>>> and has no credibility.
>>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>>
>> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
>> the table.
>> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
>> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.
>
> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.

Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.

>I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>
Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
run it.

--
Sir Tim

On 2021-09-09 1:20 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>>>
>>>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>>>
>>>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>>>> That is in violation of the rules.
>>>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>>>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>>>> and has no credibility.
>>>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>>>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>>>
>>> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
>>> the table.
>>> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
>>> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.
>>
>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>>
> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
> run it.
>
>
As someone who feels the need to shore up the bottom of the pool points
listing, I also offer up my thanks for running the pool.

On 9/9/2021 1:20 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money
>> riding on it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I
>> might make.
>>
> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble
> to run it.

+1

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
Poverty is a choice made by governments not individuals.
- Fiona the Unemployed Bettong (Andrew Marlton)

On 10/09/2021 5:20 am, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>>>
>>>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>>>
>>>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>>>> That is in violation of the rules.
>>>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>>>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>>>> and has no credibility.
>>>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>>>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>>>
>>> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
>>> the table.
>>> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
>>> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.
>>
>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>>
> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
> run it.

Very much so.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

On 09/09/2021 17:20, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.

> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.

>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.

> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
> run it.

I'll second Sir Tim's comments. The pool adds much interest to a F1 weekend.

--
JohnM

On 9 Sep 2021 17:20:14 GMT, Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>>>
>>>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>>>
>>>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>>>> That is in violation of the rules.
>>>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>>>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>>>> and has no credibility.
>>>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>>>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>>>
>>> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
>>> the table.
>>> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
>>> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.
>>
>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
>Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>>I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>>
>Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
>run it.

+1

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:34:33 +0000, JohnM <John.Milner@gmx.invalid>
wrote:

>On 09/09/2021 17:20, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
>> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>
>> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
>> run it.
>
>I'll second Sir Tim's comments. The pool adds much interest to a F1 weekend.

Sometimes more interest than the race itself :)

On 9/10/2021 4:34 AM, JohnM wrote:
> On 09/09/2021 17:20, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
>> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money
>>> riding on
>>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>
>> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
>> run it.
>
> I'll second Sir Tim's comments. The pool adds much interest to a F1
> weekend.
>
>

Sadly, no longer much 'spectacle' in an F1 weekend.

On 2021-09-09 10:20 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> texas gate <texasgate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:57:25 AM UTC-6, mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 13 Alan Baker 20
>>>>
>>>>> Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
>>>>
>>>> Ok. Alan baker submitted his picks after practice.
>>>> That is in violation of the rules.
>>>> It is not fair to the other participants.
>>>> If alan's picks stay, then the pool is tainted
>>>> and has no credibility.
>>>> Also you can put an asterisk beside alan's
>>>> name at the end of the season results for this indiscretion.
>>>
>>> #1 The late submission was not accepted as you can see if you look at
>>> the table.
>>> #2 It would have made zero difference if it had been.
>>> #3 You are not involved in the competition so don't get a vote.
>>
>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>
> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>
>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money riding on
>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>>
> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
> run it.
>
>

Hear, hear (well... ...read, read!).

:-)

On 2021-09-10 6:14 a.m., News wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 4:34 AM, JohnM wrote:
>> On 09/09/2021 17:20, Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> P.S. As far as I'm concerned, there is no credibility to the pool
>>>> whatsoever in any case. It's a bit of fun to run alongside the races.
>>
>>> Exactly, and most of us treat it in that spirit.
>>
>>>> I do try to be fair (whatever that means), but there's no money
>>>> riding on
>>>> it (AFAIK), and no-one dies as a result of any mistakes I might make.
>>
>>> Indeed, and I think we are all grateful to you for taking the trouble to
>>> run it.
>>
>> I'll second Sir Tim's comments. The pool adds much interest to a F1
>> weekend.
>>
>>
>
>
> Sadly, no longer much 'spectacle' in an F1 weekend.

Tell me:

How old are you?

And what was the best season of F1 you ever saw?

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:44:23 PM UTC-5, Darryl Johnson wrote:

> As someone who feels the need to shore up the bottom of the pool points
> listing, I also offer up my thanks for running the pool.

Whoa there partner - the bottom of the pool belongs solely to me.
And has for many years...

FWIW
DLM

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

> Tell me:
>
> How old are you?
>
> And what was the best season of F1 you ever saw?

Not sure if you're being snarky or not, but this is actually an interesting question.
There is a lot of F1-observing history here and it would be fun to know how some of the longer-toothed would answer.
I think I'll start a thread...

FWIW
DLM

On 2021-09-10 10:16 a.m., D Munz wrote:
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> Tell me:
>>
>> How old are you?
>>
>> And what was the best season of F1 you ever saw?
>
> Not sure if you're being snarky or not, but this is actually an interesting question.

Why can't it be both?

;-)

> There is a lot of F1-observing history here and it would be fun to know how some of the longer-toothed would answer.
> I think I'll start a thread...

I think that's a fine idea.

:-)

Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
> On 2021-09-10 10:16 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>
>>> Tell me:
>>>
>>> How old are you?
>>>
>>> And what was the best season of F1 you ever saw?
>>
>> Not sure if you're being snarky or not, but this is actually an
>> interesting question.
>
> Why can't it be both?
>
> ;-)

Agreed - both would be suitable.

Thanks to my Dad, I have been watching F1 most of my life. I remember
(mostly) seasons since the early-80s though I know I watched it from
earlier.

I really don't want to commit to the "best" season. In fact, I think
it's a myth. For all of that (say) 35 years, I have heard people talking
about how the "spectacle" isn't "what it was". And I am not sure
everyone talks about the same thing. If it's about crashes and deaths,
that isn't what it was is in the 70s and 80s (which I just about
remember), let alone the 50s and 60s. I don't think most (but the
ghouls) really want the clock put back on that. Overtaking is (I guess)
the biggest debate in my time watching, and that has been a real
challenge throughout the era I've watched, whether it was the ground
effects, the active suspension, the traction controls, wings and general
aero-trickery, there has been a general move from drivers' skill to car
dominance (particularly relative power).

I'm not sure that it has gone as far downhill as people claim, but I'm
also sure there isn't a clean solution. Most ways of dealing with car
dominance similarly challenges issues such as innovation or the whole
concept of the limited formula. F1 could be just another "spec" series
if that's what the fanbase wanted, but I'm pretty sure it isn't.

My view is that F1 is badly flawed...but it is what it is.

When it gets it "wrong enough", people will vote with their feet.

THIS season is the most interesting in a while. Verstappen in the Red
Bull is the equal (at least) of Hamilton in the Mercedes. There are
other driver/car pairings just nipping at the heels, really to pounce.
That is not bad.

I try not to look back with rose-tinted spectacles. There is a tendency
to remember every classic race of the 50s/60s/70s/80s without
remembering that there were awful races in each of those eras that time
(mercifully) wipes from our consciousness. It's like music where the
completely awful 80s tunes are (rightly) consigned to the bin making the
stuff we remember as being "much better than this modern rubbish".
Nonsense. It's our memories playing tricks.

So, in conclusion: stop trying to compare eras or harking back to the
past. There isn't a golden era. There were good and bad races then, and
the same is true today but time hasn't had a chance to wipe the bad from
our memories. Give it time. Enjoy the good races.

And don't take it too seriously!

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:32:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

> I think that's a fine idea.

you think cheating in the rasf1 pool is a fine idea

On 2021-09-11 12:30 p.m., texas gate wrote:
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:32:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> I think that's a fine idea.
>
> you think cheating in the rasf1 pool is a fine idea
>

Last time I did it inadvertently.

This time it was just to piss you off.

On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 1:34:25 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-09-11 12:30 p.m., texas gate wrote:
> > On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:32:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> >> I think that's a fine idea.
> >
> > you think cheating in the rasf1 pool is a fine idea
> >
> Last time I did it inadvertently.
>
> This time it was just to piss you off.

you pig hole
cheating
piece of shit

On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 1:34:25 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

> This time it was just to piss you off.

holy simpleton

On 2021-09-11 6:51 p.m., texas gate wrote:
> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 1:34:25 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-09-11 12:30 p.m., texas gate wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:32:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that's a fine idea.
>>>
>>> you think cheating in the rasf1 pool is a fine idea
>>>
>> Last time I did it inadvertently.
>>
>> This time it was just to piss you off.
>
> you pig hole
> cheating
> piece of shit
>

But I'm not dull.

:-)