https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf

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Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html

Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies

1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares

----

Opium
https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html

.... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
world's heroin supply. ...

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On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
>
> ---
>
> Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
>
> Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
>
> 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
>
> ----
>
> Opium
> https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
>
> ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> world's heroin supply. ...
>
> --- --- ---

I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.

Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
Taliban winner?
Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
Pray they stop murdering innocent people.

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:

..> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
..> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
..> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
..> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
..> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
..> >
..> > ---
..> >
..> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
..> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
..> >
..> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
..> >
..> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
..> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
..> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
..> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
..> >
..> > ----
..> >
..> > Opium
..> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
..> >
..> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
..> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
..> > world's heroin supply. ...
..> >
..> > --- --- ---

/> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
/>
/> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.

Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
even though they previously opposed opium
production, profited from opium sells which
helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...

.... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
to pointing out opium production was one of the
reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
increased opium production in Afghanistan).

/> Taliban winner?
/> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
/> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.

ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
virgins in Islamic heaven).

--- --- ---

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> .> >
> .> > ---
> .> >
> .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> .> >
> .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> .> >
> .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> .> >
> .> > ----
> .> >
> .> > Opium
> .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> .> >
> .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> .> >
> .> > --- --- ---
>
> /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> />
> /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
>
> Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> even though they previously opposed opium
> production, profited from opium sells which
> helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
>
> ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> to pointing out opium production was one of the
> reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> increased opium production in Afghanistan).
>
> /> Taliban winner?
> /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
>
> ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> virgins in Islamic heaven).
>
> --- --- ---

You call them winners is your choice.
I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a winner.
I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of their own religion a winner.
Right at this minute the images of vibrant young service persons are in a casket being unloaded at Dover, DE.
Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence, Massachusetts (female) 22

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:

~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:

\> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:

~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
~> > .> >
~> > .> > ---
~> > .> >
~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
~> > .> >
~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
~> > .> >
~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
~> > .> >
~> > .> > ----
~> > .> >
~> > .> > Opium
~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
~> > .> >
~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
~> > .> >
~> > .> > --- --- ---

\> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
\> > />
\> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
~> > even though they previously opposed opium
~> > production, profited from opium sells which
~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
~> >
~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
\> > /> Taliban winner?
\> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
\> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
~> >
~> > --- --- ---

/> You call them winners is your choice.

Winners & win definitions:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win

/> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
winner.

You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.

/> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
their own religion a winner.

Neither do I.

/> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
/> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
/> at Dover, DE.
/>
/> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
/> Massachusetts (female) 22

As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
der of one or more are despised.

People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
plicity.

--- --- ---

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
>
> \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
>
> ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > ---
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > ----
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > Opium
> ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> ~> > .> >
> ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> \> > />
> \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> ~> >
> ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> \> > /> Taliban winner?
> \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> ~> >
> ~> > --- --- ---
>
> /> You call them winners is your choice.
>
> Winners & win definitions:
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
>
> /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> winner.
>
> You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
>
> /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> their own religion a winner.
> Neither do I.
>
> /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> /> at Dover, DE.
> />
> /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> /> Massachusetts (female) 22
>
> As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> der of one or more are despised.
>
> People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> plicity.
>
> --- --- ---
I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:

One sentence in response to
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ

> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> >
> > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> >
> > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > ---
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > ----
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > Opium
> > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > ~> > .> >
> > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > \> > />
> > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > ~> >
> > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > ~> >
> > ~> > --- --- ---
> >
> > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> >
> > Winners & win definitions:
> > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> >
> > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > winner.
> >
> > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> >
> > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > their own religion a winner.
> > Neither do I.
> >
> > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > /> at Dover, DE.
> > />
> > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> >
> > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > der of one or more are despised.
> >
> > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > plicity.
> >
> > --- --- ---

> I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.

The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
to be reversed via intervention / treatment
is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...

.... the fact that failing to follow prescription
instructions would account for 100% of ad-
verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
saving benefits in reducing severe pain.

Your reply fails to address my statement
that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
.. prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
.. the invaluable relief of severe pain which
.. opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
.. tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...

.... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
.. well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
.. be deadly."

As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
they're actually fighting with one another, &
both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
military personnel (13) recently.

The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
Taliban winning that war, similar in many
ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
production in Afghanistan:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png

Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
dramatic drop in opium production like they
did in 2001.

--- --- ---

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> One sentence in response to
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > >
> > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > >
> > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > ~> > .> >
> > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > \> > />
> > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > ~> >
> > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > ~> >
> > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > >
> > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > >
> > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > >
> > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > winner.
> > >
> > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > >
> > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > their own religion a winner.
> > > Neither do I.
> > >
> > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > />
> > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > >
> > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > der of one or more are despised.
> > >
> > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > plicity.
> > >
> > > --- --- ---
>
> > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
>
> ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
>
> Your reply fails to address my statement
> that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
>
> ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> . be deadly."
>
> As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> they're actually fighting with one another, &
> both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> military personnel (13) recently.
>
> The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> production in Afghanistan:
> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
>
> Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> dramatic drop in opium production like they
> did in 2001.
>
> --- --- ---

I wasn't confused about anything again.
Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > One sentence in response to
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > \> > />
> > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > ~> >
> > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > ~> >
> > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > >
> > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > >
> > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > >
> > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > winner.
> > > >
> > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > >
> > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > Neither do I.
> > > >
> > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > />
> > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > >
> > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > >
> > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > plicity.
> > > >
> > > > --- --- ---
> >
> > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> >
> > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> >
> > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> >
> > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > . be deadly."
> >
> > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > military personnel (13) recently.
> >
> > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > production in Afghanistan:
> > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> >
> > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > did in 2001.
> >
> > --- --- ---
> I wasn't confused about anything again.
> Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > One sentence in response to
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > > \> > />
> > > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > > ~> >
> > > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > > ~> >
> > > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > > >
> > > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > > >
> > > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > > winner.
> > > > >
> > > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > > >
> > > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > > Neither do I.
> > > > >
> > > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > > />
> > > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > > >
> > > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > > >
> > > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > > plicity.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- --- ---
> > >
> > > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> > >
> > > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> > >
> > > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> > >
> > > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > > . be deadly."
> > >
> > > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > > military personnel (13) recently.
> > >
> > > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > > production in Afghanistan:
> > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > >
> > > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > > did in 2001.
> > >
> > > --- --- ---
> > I wasn't confused about anything again.
> > Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".
> In the war between the U.S. and the Taliban,
> the Taliban, in no small part using funds from
> the opium production which, ironically, they
> tried to eliminate opium production in 2001,
> won just like North Vietnam won a war against
> the U.S. preceded by a war against the French.
>
> You, in one of your many confused statements,
> tried to call the ISIS-K attack on Afghans & U.S.
> military a Taliban attack, conflating/confusing
> the ISIS-K attack as a Taliban attack, you're so
> confused you may not even realize you blamed
> that attack on the Taliban instead of ISIS-K, as ...
>
> ... you've tried to treat both as one entity in your
> confusing comments.

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 1:03:38 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One sentence in response to
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > > > \> > />
> > > > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > > > winner.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > > > Neither do I.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > > > />
> > > > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > > > plicity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > >
> > > > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > > > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > > > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > > > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > > > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > > > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > > > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> > > >
> > > > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > > > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > > > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > > > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > > > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> > > >
> > > > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > > > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > > > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > > > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > > > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > > > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> > > >
> > > > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > > > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > > > . be deadly."
> > > >
> > > > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > > > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > > > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > > > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > > > military personnel (13) recently.
> > > >
> > > > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > > > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > > > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > > > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > > > production in Afghanistan:
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > > >
> > > > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > > > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > > > did in 2001.
> > > >
> > > > --- --- ---
> > > I wasn't confused about anything again.
> > > Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".
> > In the war between the U.S. and the Taliban,
> > the Taliban, in no small part using funds from
> > the opium production which, ironically, they
> > tried to eliminate opium production in 2001,
> > won just like North Vietnam won a war against
> > the U.S. preceded by a war against the French.
> >
> > You, in one of your many confused statements,
> > tried to call the ISIS-K attack on Afghans & U.S.
> > military a Taliban attack, conflating/confusing
> > the ISIS-K attack as a Taliban attack, you're so
> > confused you may not even realize you blamed
> > that attack on the Taliban instead of ISIS-K, as ...
> >
> > ... you've tried to treat both as one entity in your
> > confusing comments.
> My guess is your meds need to be adjusted or as per you add way more as you try to add deep complex thoughts!
>
> I mentioned nothing of any but what your header said
>
> Taliban "winners" now if I said about anybody killing in the name of religion that would include many and it still covers you think these groups are winners.
>
> I believe as always you might be a little embarrassed and your constant backtracking and adding stuff that ain't there is your way as per norm.
>
> I didn't mention K nor was I referring to just this latest chapter.

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 2:17:37 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 1:03:38 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > One sentence in response to
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > > > > \> > />
> > > > > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > > > > winner.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > > > > Neither do I.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > > > > />
> > > > > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > > > > plicity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > > > > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > > > > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > > > > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > > > > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > > > > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > > > > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> > > > >
> > > > > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > > > > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > > > > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > > > > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > > > > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > > > > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > > > > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > > > > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > > > > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > > > > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> > > > >
> > > > > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > > > > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > > > > . be deadly."
> > > > >
> > > > > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > > > > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > > > > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > > > > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > > > > military personnel (13) recently.
> > > > >
> > > > > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > > > > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > > > > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > > > > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > > > > production in Afghanistan:
> > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > > > >
> > > > > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > > > > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > > > > did in 2001.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > I wasn't confused about anything again.
> > > > Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".
> > > In the war between the U.S. and the Taliban,
> > > the Taliban, in no small part using funds from
> > > the opium production which, ironically, they
> > > tried to eliminate opium production in 2001,
> > > won just like North Vietnam won a war against
> > > the U.S. preceded by a war against the French.
> > >
> > > You, in one of your many confused statements,
> > > tried to call the ISIS-K attack on Afghans & U.S.
> > > military a Taliban attack, conflating/confusing
> > > the ISIS-K attack as a Taliban attack, you're so
> > > confused you may not even realize you blamed
> > > that attack on the Taliban instead of ISIS-K, as ...
> > >
> > > ... you've tried to treat both as one entity in your
> > > confusing comments.
> > My guess is your meds need to be adjusted or as per you add way more as you try to add deep complex thoughts!
> >
> > I mentioned nothing of any but what your header said
> >
> > Taliban "winners" now if I said about anybody killing in the name of religion that would include many and it still covers you think these groups are winners.
> >
> > I believe as always you might be a little embarrassed and your constant backtracking and adding stuff that ain't I there am your way as per norm.
> >
> > I didn't mention K nor was I referring to just this latest chapter.
> The anti-Cowboys Patriots fan conveys he's
> clueless about ISIS-K, in denial regarding him
> blaming the Taliban for the recent ISIS-K Islam-
> ic mass murder of over 100 Afghans & 13 U.S.
> military personnel, failing to note the U.S. LOST
> the Afghan war to the Taliban, failing to accept ...
>
> ... the invaluable use of opium production to end
> chronic severe pain (with legal prescriptions) in
> those whose medical conditions are killing them,
> along with those in dire need of severe pain relief
> on a short-term basis.
>
> The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan arguably de-
> creased terrorism risk in the U.S., but unfortunately
> it's unknown what will happen in Afghanistan now
> that the U.S. has left as of August 31, 2021. A war
> between the Taliban & ISIS-K may ensue as those
> -2- oppose & are fighting each other.
>
> The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan resulted in in-
> creased opium production in Afghanistan, as fully
> documented in the previously linked graphic at
> . https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
>
> --- --- ---
No sir you failed miserably at your attempt to cover up the dumbest posts you ever wrote.
Despite you thinking you very intelligent you need to stop overanalyzing everything!!
Sorry to tell you but you are not an expert in any area especially football or the Taliban or ISIS K.

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 9:54:53 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 2:17:37 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 1:03:38 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One sentence in response to
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > > > > > \> > />
> > > > > > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > > > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > > > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > > > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > > > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > > > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > > > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > > > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > > > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > > > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > > > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > > > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > > > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > > > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > > > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > > > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > > > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > > > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > > > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > > > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > > > > > winner.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > > > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > > > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > > > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > > > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > > > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > > > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > > > > > Neither do I.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > > > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > > > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > > > > > />
> > > > > > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > > > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > > > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > > > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > > > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > > > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > > > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > > > > > plicity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > > > > > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > > > > > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > > > > > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > > > > > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > > > > > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > > > > > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > > > > > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > > > > > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > > > > > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > > > > > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > > > > > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > > > > > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > > > > > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > > > > > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > > > > > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > > > > > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > > > > > . be deadly."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > > > > > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > > > > > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > > > > > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > > > > > military personnel (13) recently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > > > > > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > > > > > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > > > > > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > > > > > production in Afghanistan:
> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > > > > > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > > > > > did in 2001.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > > I wasn't confused about anything again.
> > > > > Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".
> > > > In the war between the U.S. and the Taliban,
> > > > the Taliban, in no small part using funds from
> > > > the opium production which, ironically, they
> > > > tried to eliminate opium production in 2001,
> > > > won just like North Vietnam won a war against
> > > > the U.S. preceded by a war against the French.
> > > >
> > > > You, in one of your many confused statements,
> > > > tried to call the ISIS-K attack on Afghans & U.S.
> > > > military a Taliban attack, conflating/confusing
> > > > the ISIS-K attack as a Taliban attack, you're so
> > > > confused you may not even realize you blamed
> > > > that attack on the Taliban instead of ISIS-K, as ...
> > > >
> > > > ... you've tried to treat both as one entity in your
> > > > confusing comments.
> > > My guess is your meds need to be adjusted or as per you add way more as you try to add deep complex thoughts!
> > >
> > > I mentioned nothing of any but what your header said
> > >
> > > Taliban "winners" now if I said about anybody killing in the name of religion that would include many and it still covers you think these groups are winners.
> > >
> > > I believe as always you might be a little embarrassed and your constant backtracking and adding stuff that ain't I there am your way as per norm.
> > >
> > > I didn't mention K nor was I referring to just this latest chapter.
> > The anti-Cowboys Patriots fan conveys he's
> > clueless about ISIS-K, in denial regarding him
> > blaming the Taliban for the recent ISIS-K Islam-
> > ic mass murder of over 100 Afghans & 13 U.S.
> > military personnel, failing to note the U.S. LOST
> > the Afghan war to the Taliban, failing to accept ...
> >
> > ... the invaluable use of opium production to end
> > chronic severe pain (with legal prescriptions) in
> > those whose medical conditions are killing them,
> > along with those in dire need of severe pain relief
> > on a short-term basis.
> >
> > The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan arguably de-
> > creased terrorism risk in the U.S., but unfortunately
> > it's unknown what will happen in Afghanistan now
> > that the U.S. has left as of August 31, 2021. A war
> > between the Taliban & ISIS-K may ensue as those
> > -2- oppose & are fighting each other.
> >
> > The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan resulted in in-
> > creased opium production in Afghanistan, as fully
> > documented in the previously linked graphic at
> > . https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> >
> > --- --- ---
> No sir you failed miserably at your attempt to cover up the dumbest posts you ever wrote.

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 10:26:02 AM UTC-5, observer wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 9:54:53 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 2:17:37 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 1:03:38 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 8:56:04 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One sentence in response to
> > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:22:15 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > ~> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:54:30 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > \> > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5, dls...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > ~> > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/why-the-only-winner-of-americas-war-in-afghanistan-is-opium/
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/23/the-politics-of-heroin-and-the-afghan-us-pullout/
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://reason.com/2021/08/24/opium-suppression-in-afghanistan-was-a-us-led-failure/
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/profits-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-boon-taliban-2021-08-16/
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > http://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ---
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Top Opium Poppy Producing Countries
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Rank Country ......... Land Area Cultivating Opium Poppies
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 1 ..... Afghanistan ... 328,000 hectares
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 2 ..... Myanmar ....... 37,300 hectares
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 3 ..... Mexico ........... 30,600 hectares
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > 4 ..... Laos ............... 5,700 hectares
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ----
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > Opium
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > https://www.drugs.com/illicit/opium.html
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > ... Afghanistan is the worldwide capital of opium
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > cultivation, leading to about three-quarters of the
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > world's heroin supply. ...
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > .> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > > > > \> > /> I would be hard-pressed to use the word winners.
> > > > > > > > > \> > />
> > > > > > > > > \> > /> Anybody growing or taking those drugs are hardly winners in my eyes.
> > > > > > > > > ~> > Winners are the Afghan producers who profit
> > > > > > > > > ~> > from selling opium and it's likely the Taliban,
> > > > > > > > > ~> > even though they previously opposed opium
> > > > > > > > > ~> > production, profited from opium sells which
> > > > > > > > > ~> > helped them defeat the pitiful Afghan govern-
> > > > > > > > > ~> > ment effort (often, the U.S.-trained Afghan ...
> > > > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > ... military simply gave up and allowed the Tal-
> > > > > > > > > ~> > iban to overrun the military, the articles I linked
> > > > > > > > > ~> > to pointing out opium production was one of the
> > > > > > > > > ~> > reasons for the Afghan military failing to resist
> > > > > > > > > ~> > the Taliban, & pointing out U.S. efforts actually
> > > > > > > > > ~> > increased opium production in Afghanistan).
> > > > > > > > > \> > /> Taliban winner?
> > > > > > > > > \> > /> Not in most of the world's eyes, simply put they got black hearts.
> > > > > > > > > \> > /> Pray they stop murdering innocent people.
> > > > > > > > > ~> > ISIS-K, responsible for the recent suicide murders
> > > > > > > > > ~> > of Afghans & U.S. military personnel, & suicide mur-
> > > > > > > > > ~> > der by ISIS is fueled by Islamic religious fervor (brain-
> > > > > > > > > ~> > washed into believing that they'll be rewarded with
> > > > > > > > > ~> > virgins in Islamic heaven).
> > > > > > > > > ~> >
> > > > > > > > > ~> > --- --- ---
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /> You call them winners is your choice.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Winners & win definitions:
> > > > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dictionary.com/browse/winner
> > > > > > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/win
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /> I won't call anybody who grows or takes such items as a
> > > > > > > > > winner.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You fail to take note of legal opioid prescriptions
> > > > > > > > > for chronic severe pain & the invaluable relief of
> > > > > > > > > severe pain which opioids can provide, and as
> > > > > > > > > with all medications, risks are entailed & adhering
> > > > > > > > > to doctor prescription doses / warnings is well-
> > > > > > > > > advised, failing to do is risky & can be deadly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /> I certainly won't call thugs who murdered in the name of
> > > > > > > > > their own religion a winner.
> > > > > > > > > Neither do I.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /> Right at this minute the images of vibrant young
> > > > > > > > > /> service persons are in a casket being unloaded
> > > > > > > > > /> at Dover, DE.
> > > > > > > > > />
> > > > > > > > > /> Many of them early 20's one was from Lawrence,
> > > > > > > > > /> Massachusetts (female) 22
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As with the 9-11 victims of Islamic suicide mass
> > > > > > > > > murderers, all murdered victims are esteemed,
> > > > > > > > > all who commit suicide via mass murder & mur-
> > > > > > > > > der of one or more are despised.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > People complicit in brainwashing others into be-
> > > > > > > > > lieving murder of one or more is commendable are
> > > > > > > > > also to be admonished & condemned for their com-
> > > > > > > > > plicity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I didn't fail to note anything as most of the junkies start out legal.
> > > > > > > The percent of narcotic addiction that fails
> > > > > > > to be reversed via intervention / treatment
> > > > > > > is far less than the over 50% you assert, &
> > > > > > > your presumption that legal opioid prescrip-
> > > > > > > tions account for over 50% of opioid addic-
> > > > > > > tion is unsupported. Also worth noting is ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ... the fact that failing to follow prescription
> > > > > > > instructions would account for 100% of ad-
> > > > > > > verse impact of opiate prescription use, &
> > > > > > > the fact that opioid prescriptions are life-
> > > > > > > saving benefits in reducing severe pain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your reply fails to address my statement
> > > > > > > that "You fail to take note of legal opioid
> > > > > > > . prescriptions for chronic severe pain &
> > > > > > > . the invaluable relief of severe pain which
> > > > > > > . opioids can provide, & as with all medica-
> > > > > > > . tions, risks are entailed & adhering to ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ... doctor prescription doses / warnings is
> > > > > > > . well-advised, failing to do is risky & can
> > > > > > > . be deadly."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for your confusing the Taliban with ISIS-K,
> > > > > > > they're actually fighting with one another, &
> > > > > > > both the U.S. & Taliban oppose ISIS-K, the
> > > > > > > entity which murdered the Afghans & U.S.
> > > > > > > military personnel (13) recently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The U.S. effort in Afghanistan ended in the
> > > > > > > Taliban winning that war, similar in many
> > > > > > > ways to North Vietnam winning the Vietnam
> > > > > > > war. The U.S. effort also increased opium
> > > > > > > production in Afghanistan:
> > > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unknown whether the Taliban will recreate a
> > > > > > > dramatic drop in opium production like they
> > > > > > > did in 2001.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- --- ---
> > > > > > I wasn't confused about anything again.
> > > > > > Your Header calls the Taliban a winner, I spoke on the Taliban or whatever terrorist you labeled as a"winner".
> > > > > In the war between the U.S. and the Taliban,
> > > > > the Taliban, in no small part using funds from
> > > > > the opium production which, ironically, they
> > > > > tried to eliminate opium production in 2001,
> > > > > won just like North Vietnam won a war against
> > > > > the U.S. preceded by a war against the French.
> > > > >
> > > > > You, in one of your many confused statements,
> > > > > tried to call the ISIS-K attack on Afghans & U.S.
> > > > > military a Taliban attack, conflating/confusing
> > > > > the ISIS-K attack as a Taliban attack, you're so
> > > > > confused you may not even realize you blamed
> > > > > that attack on the Taliban instead of ISIS-K, as ...
> > > > >
> > > > > ... you've tried to treat both as one entity in your
> > > > > confusing comments.
> > > > My guess is your meds need to be adjusted or as per you add way more as you try to add deep complex thoughts!
> > > >
> > > > I mentioned nothing of any but what your header said
> > > >
> > > > Taliban "winners" now if I said about anybody killing in the name of religion that would include many and it still covers you think these groups are winners.
> > > >
> > > > I believe as always you might be a little embarrassed and your constant backtracking and adding stuff that ain't I there am your way as per norm.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't mention K nor was I referring to just this latest chapter.
> > > The anti-Cowboys Patriots fan conveys he's
> > > clueless about ISIS-K, in denial regarding him
> > > blaming the Taliban for the recent ISIS-K Islam-
> > > ic mass murder of over 100 Afghans & 13 U.S.
> > > military personnel, failing to note the U.S. LOST
> > > the Afghan war to the Taliban, failing to accept ...
> > >
> > > ... the invaluable use of opium production to end
> > > chronic severe pain (with legal prescriptions) in
> > > those whose medical conditions are killing them,
> > > along with those in dire need of severe pain relief
> > > on a short-term basis.
> > >
> > > The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan arguably de-
> > > creased terrorism risk in the U.S., but unfortunately
> > > it's unknown what will happen in Afghanistan now
> > > that the U.S. has left as of August 31, 2021. A war
> > > between the Taliban & ISIS-K may ensue as those
> > > -2- oppose & are fighting each other.
> > >
> > > The U.S. intervention in Afghanistan resulted in in-
> > > creased opium production in Afghanistan, as fully
> > > documented in the previously linked graphic at
> > > . https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13300/production/_120229587_afg_opium-nc.png
> > >
> > > --- --- ---
> > No sir you failed miserably at your attempt to cover up the dumbest posts you ever wrote.
> You showed clearly you're clueless about ISIS-K
> murdering American military personnel & over 100
> Afghans, blaming that on the Taliban, and you're
> clueless about opioids, and you're clueless (until
> today) about the Taliban winning the war against
> the U.S. (today you woke up and realized that hap-
> pened).
> > Despite you thinking you very intelligent you need to stop overanalyzing everything!!
> > Sorry to tell you but you are not an expert in any area especially football or the Taliban or ISIS K.
> >
> > Wait screw that your a expert in drug-taking which we now know has greatly reduced some brain cells.
> >
> > Have a nice day junkie

Links to my previous posts in this thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/mpsqcNE8IAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/YsYFmkx-IAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/BDAlbBfIIAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/eSjaQ7HKIAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/m6pEofMWIQAJ

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August 28 2021

The US military has said it believes it killed an Isis-K
‘planner’ in its first reprisal strike in Afghanistan after
the deadly Kabul attack that killed at least 170 people,
including 13 US military personnel.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-says-kills-isis-k-020651288.html
---

Approximately 36 hours after the suicide bomb attack
at Kabul left hundreds dead or wounded and Joe Biden
vowed to hunt down those responsible, the US said an
unmanned drone had been dispatched to attack a sus-
pected member of ISIS’ Afghanistan branch, which it
described as a “planner”.

It did not say whether the individual was believed linked
specifically to the attack on Thursday at Hamid Karzai
International Airport.

However, the US military said it believed the mission to
kill the militant had been successful. ...

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September 17 2021

US military admits drone strike intended to kill
ISIS-K fighters in Kabul actually killed civilians,
including 7 children
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-military-admits-drone-strike-191625152.html
---

An investigation by the US military has determined that an
airstrike last month in Kabul believed to have eliminated a
terrorist threat actually killed civilians, a top US general said
Friday.

"This strike was taken in the earnest belief that it would pre-
vent an imminent threat to our forces and the evacuees at
the airport, but it was a mistake and I offer my sincere apol-
ogy," Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the head of US Central Com-
mand, told reporters at the Pentagon.

"I am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including
up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike," he said.

McKenzie explained that there was "reasonable certainty at
the time of the strike to designate the vehicle as an 'immin-
ent threat.'" He said that the "investigation now concludes
that this was a tragic mistake.

The Marine Corps general acknowledged that the strike "did
not come up to our standards" and that "clearly the intelligence
was wrong."

A New York Times visual investigation of the strike last week
undermined the US military's initial account of the strike's suc-
cess, suggesting instead they had killed an aid worker driving
around Kabul for his work.

Video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1438946053441601540

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, who
previously referred to the drone attack as a "righteous strike,"
said in statement on Friday the strike was a "horrible tragedy
of war."

"It's heart wrenching and we are committed to being fully trans-
parent about this incident," Milley added.

The August 29 airstrike in the capital of Afghanistan came days
after a suicide bombing at the international airport killed more
than 160 civilians and 13 US soldiers. That attack was attribu-
ted to ISIS-K, an extremist group.

In a statement at the time, CENTCOM said it had carried out
an attack with an unmanned drone against a vehicle in Kabul,
"eliminating an imminent ISIS-K threat to Hamad Karzai Inter-
national
airport."

"We are confident we successfully hit the target," a spokesper-
son said, claiming the military had received "no indications" that
there had been civilian casualties.

But in a subsequent statement also released on the day of the
strike, CENTCOM said it was "aware of reports of civilian casu-
alties," adding that it would be "deeply saddened by any poten-
tial loss of innocent life."

Last week, the New York Times released a report that under-
mined the US military's initial claims that the strike hit a vehicle
packed with explosives. The Times obtained video footage that
showed the aid worker who was killed, Zemari Ahmadi, filling his
car with water containers for his home.

.... In a Friday statement on the strike, Defense Secretary Lloyd
Austin apologized to the family members of the victims.

Lloyd offered his "deepest condolences to surviving family mem-
bers of those who were killed, including Mr. Ahmadi, and to the
staff of Nutrition and Education International, Mr. Ahmadi's em-
ployer."

"We now know that there was no connection between Mr. Ahmadi
& ISIS-Khorasan, that his activities on that day were completely
harmless & not at all related to the imminent threat we believed
we faced, & that Mr. Ahmadi was just as innocent a victim as were
the others tragically killed," Lloyd added.

The defense secretary said the Pentagon will work to learn "from
this horrible mistake," adding that he'd ordered a review of the
CENTCOM investigation into the strike. "We owe that to the vic-
tims & their loved ones, to the American people and to ourselves,"
Austin said.

"No military works harder than ours to avoid civilian casualties.
When we have reason to believe we have taken innocent life,
we investigate it &, if true, we admit it," Austin said. "But we also
must work just as hard to prevent recurrence - no matter the cir-
cumstances, the intelligence stream or the operational pressures
under which we labor."

--- --- ---

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 6:24:36 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:
> Links to my previous posts in this thread:
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/mpsqcNE8IAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/YsYFmkx-IAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/BDAlbBfIIAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/eSjaQ7HKIAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/m6pEofMWIQAJ
>
> ---
> August 28 2021
>
> The US military has said it believes it killed an Isis-K
> ‘planner’ in its first reprisal strike in Afghanistan after
> the deadly Kabul attack that killed at least 170 people,
> including 13 US military personnel.
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-says-kills-isis-k-020651288.html
> ---
>
> Approximately 36 hours after the suicide bomb attack
> at Kabul left hundreds dead or wounded and Joe Biden
> vowed to hunt down those responsible, the US said an
> unmanned drone had been dispatched to attack a sus-
> pected member of ISIS’ Afghanistan branch, which it
> described as a “planner”.
>
> It did not say whether the individual was believed linked
> specifically to the attack on Thursday at Hamid Karzai
> International Airport.
>
> However, the US military said it believed the mission to
> kill the militant had been successful. ...
>
> ---
> September 17 2021
>
> US military admits drone strike intended to kill
> ISIS-K fighters in Kabul actually killed civilians,
> including 7 children
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-military-admits-drone-strike-191625152.html
> ---
>
> An investigation by the US military has determined that an
> airstrike last month in Kabul believed to have eliminated a
> terrorist threat actually killed civilians, a top US general said
> Friday.
>
> "This strike was taken in the earnest belief that it would pre-
> vent an imminent threat to our forces and the evacuees at
> the airport, but it was a mistake and I offer my sincere apol-
> ogy," Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the head of US Central Com-
> mand, told reporters at the Pentagon.
>
> "I am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including
> up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike," he said.
>
> McKenzie explained that there was "reasonable certainty at
> the time of the strike to designate the vehicle as an 'immin-
> ent threat.'" He said that the "investigation now concludes
> that this was a tragic mistake.
>
> The Marine Corps general acknowledged that the strike "did
> not come up to our standards" and that "clearly the intelligence
> was wrong."
>
> A New York Times visual investigation of the strike last week
> undermined the US military's initial account of the strike's suc-
> cess, suggesting instead they had killed an aid worker driving
> around Kabul for his work.
>
> Video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1438946053441601540
>
> Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, who
> previously referred to the drone attack as a "righteous strike,"
> said in statement on Friday the strike was a "horrible tragedy
> of war."
>
> "It's heart wrenching and we are committed to being fully trans-
> parent about this incident," Milley added.
>
> The August 29 airstrike in the capital of Afghanistan came days
> after a suicide bombing at the international airport killed more
> than 160 civilians and 13 US soldiers. That attack was attribu-
> ted to ISIS-K, an extremist group.
>
> In a statement at the time, CENTCOM said it had carried out
> an attack with an unmanned drone against a vehicle in Kabul,
> "eliminating an imminent ISIS-K threat to Hamad Karzai Inter-
> national
> airport."
>
> "We are confident we successfully hit the target," a spokesper-
> son said, claiming the military had received "no indications" that
> there had been civilian casualties.
>
> But in a subsequent statement also released on the day of the
> strike, CENTCOM said it was "aware of reports of civilian casu-
> alties," adding that it would be "deeply saddened by any poten-
> tial loss of innocent life."
>
> Last week, the New York Times released a report that under-
> mined the US military's initial claims that the strike hit a vehicle
> packed with explosives. The Times obtained video footage that
> showed the aid worker who was killed, Zemari Ahmadi, filling his
> car with water containers for his home.
>
> ... In a Friday statement on the strike, Defense Secretary Lloyd
> Austin apologized to the family members of the victims.
>
> Lloyd offered his "deepest condolences to surviving family mem-
> bers of those who were killed, including Mr. Ahmadi, and to the
> staff of Nutrition and Education International, Mr. Ahmadi's em-
> ployer."
>
> "We now know that there was no connection between Mr. Ahmadi
> & ISIS-Khorasan, that his activities on that day were completely
> harmless & not at all related to the imminent threat we believed
> we faced, & that Mr. Ahmadi was just as innocent a victim as were
> the others tragically killed," Lloyd added.
>
> The defense secretary said the Pentagon will work to learn "from
> this horrible mistake," adding that he'd ordered a review of the
> CENTCOM investigation into the strike. "We owe that to the vic-
> tims & their loved ones, to the American people and to ourselves,"
> Austin said.
>
> "No military works harder than ours to avoid civilian casualties.
> When we have reason to believe we have taken innocent life,
> we investigate it &, if true, we admit it," Austin said. "But we also
> must work just as hard to prevent recurrence - no matter the cir-
> cumstances, the intelligence stream or the operational pressures
> under which we labor."
>
> --- --- ---
Junkie, please lay off the Meds.
For the record again nobody mentioned any particular terrorist groups.
You in your drug-crazed mind came up with another far fetch alt reality theory.
Have a nice day Junkie.

---
September 17 2021
https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/pentagon-admits-its-killed-civilians-not-isis-terrorist-in-drone-strike/
---

Article showing some of the children killed in the
tragic U.S. drone strike that killed no ISIS-K ter-
rorists, instead killing 10 innocent civilians includ-
ing 7 innocent children.

Reprehensible inexcusable, & condemnable, part
of the 'fog' of war -or- a tragedy that could've and
should've been prevented by making certain the
attack was on ISIS-K, not on innocent Afghan civil-
ians including children.

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 6:24:36 PM UTC-4, observer wrote:

..> Links to my previous posts in this thread:
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/mpsqcNE8IAAJ
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/YsYFmkx-IAAJ
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/IUxWXS-QIAAJ
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/BDAlbBfIIAAJ
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/eSjaQ7HKIAAJ
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/PHD6JbW9yAQ/m/m6pEofMWIQAJ
..>
..> ---
..> August 28 2021
..>
..> The US military has said it believes it killed an Isis-K
..> ‘planner’ in its first reprisal strike in Afghanistan after
..> the deadly Kabul attack that killed at least 170 people,
..> including 13 US military personnel.
..> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-says-kills-isis-k-020651288.html
..> ---
..>
..> Approximately 36 hours after the suicide bomb attack
..> at Kabul left hundreds dead or wounded and Joe Biden
..> vowed to hunt down those responsible, the US said an
..> unmanned drone had been dispatched to attack a sus-
..> pected member of ISIS’ Afghanistan branch, which it
..> described as a “planner”.
..>
..> It did not say whether the individual was believed linked
..> specifically to the attack on Thursday at Hamid Karzai
..> International Airport.
..>
..> However, the US military said it believed the mission to
..> kill the militant had been successful. ...
..>
..> ---
..> September 17 2021
..>
..> US military admits drone strike intended to kill
..> ISIS-K fighters in Kabul actually killed civilians,
..> including 7 children
..> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/us-military-admits-drone-strike-191625152.html
..> ---
..>
..> An investigation by the US military has determined that an
..> airstrike last month in Kabul believed to have eliminated a
..> terrorist threat actually killed civilians, a top US general said
..> Friday.
..>
..> "This strike was taken in the earnest belief that it would pre-
..> vent an imminent threat to our forces and the evacuees at
..> the airport, but it was a mistake and I offer my sincere apol-
..> ogy," Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the head of US Central Com-
..> mand, told reporters at the Pentagon.
..>
..> "I am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including
..> up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike," he said.
..>
..> McKenzie explained that there was "reasonable certainty at
..> the time of the strike to designate the vehicle as an 'immin-
..> ent threat.'" He said that the "investigation now concludes
..> that this was a tragic mistake.
..>
..> The Marine Corps general acknowledged that the strike "did
..> not come up to our standards" and that "clearly the intelligence
..> was wrong."
..>
..> A New York Times visual investigation of the strike last week
..> undermined the US military's initial account of the strike's suc-
..> cess, suggesting instead they had killed an aid worker driving
..> around Kabul for his work.
..>
..> Video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1438946053441601540
..>
..> Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, who
..> previously referred to the drone attack as a "righteous strike,"
..> said in statement on Friday the strike was a "horrible tragedy
..> of war."
..>
..> "It's heart wrenching and we are committed to being fully trans-
..> parent about this incident," Milley added.
..>
..> The August 29 airstrike in the capital of Afghanistan came days
..> after a suicide bombing at the international airport killed more
..> than 160 civilians and 13 US soldiers. That attack was attribu-
..> ted to ISIS-K, an extremist group.
..>
..> In a statement at the time, CENTCOM said it had carried out
..> an attack with an unmanned drone against a vehicle in Kabul,
..> "eliminating an imminent ISIS-K threat to Hamad Karzai Inter-
..> national airport."
..>
..> "We are confident we successfully hit the target," a spokesper-
..> son said, claiming the military had received "no indications" that
..> there had been civilian casualties.
..>
..> But in a subsequent statement also released on the day of the
..> strike, CENTCOM said it was "aware of reports of civilian casu-
..> alties," adding that it would be "deeply saddened by any poten-
..> tial loss of innocent life."
..>
..> Last week, the New York Times released a report that under-
..> mined the US military's initial claims that the strike hit a vehicle
..> packed with explosives. The Times obtained video footage that
..> showed the aid worker who was killed, Zemari Ahmadi, filling his
..> car with water containers for his home.
..>
..> ... In a Friday statement on the strike, Defense Secretary Lloyd
..> Austin apologized to the family members of the victims.
..>
..> Lloyd offered his "deepest condolences to surviving family mem-
..> bers of those who were killed, including Mr. Ahmadi, and to the
..> staff of Nutrition and Education International, Mr. Ahmadi's em-
..> ployer."
..>
..> "We now know that there was no connection between Mr. Ahmadi
..> & ISIS-Khorasan, that his activities on that day were completely
..> harmless & not at all related to the imminent threat we believed
..> we faced, & that Mr. Ahmadi was just as innocent a victim as were
..> the others tragically killed," Lloyd added.
..>
..> The defense secretary said the Pentagon will work to learn "from
..> this horrible mistake," adding that he'd ordered a review of the
..> CENTCOM investigation into the strike. "We owe that to the vic-
..> tims & their loved ones, to the American people and to ourselves,"
..> Austin said.
..>
..> "No military works harder than ours to avoid civilian casualties.
..> When we have reason to believe we have taken innocent life,
..> we investigate it &, if true, we admit it," Austin said. "But we also
..> must work just as hard to prevent recurrence - no matter the cir-
..> cumstances, the intelligence stream or the operational pressures
..> under which we labor."
..>
..> --- --- ---