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Well ??? Somewhere I read that!!

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Japanese Grand Prix F1 Offshore Odds & Pick
2 minutes read
LIKETWEETPIN
PublishedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amUpdatedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amAuthorAlex
DudleySHARE ARTICLE
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The competitive action on track in Formula 1 continues across the first
weekend in April, with the Japanese Grand Prix being staged. Max
Verstappen’s perfect start to the season was ended in Australia, but the
Red Bull driver is heavily expected to respond in Asia.

Before Betting On Japanese Grand Prix
The Japanese Grand Prix is widely considered to be one of the most
exciting races on the schedule. However, it will be staged earlier in
the season for the first time in 2024, meaning that a 14th world
champion won’t be crowned in early April. The Suzuka Circuit has staged
the race since 1987, with the field competing over a total distance of
307.471 km.

Max Verstappen continued his dominant season in the race last season,
finishing over 19 seconds clear of Lando Norris. Oscar Piastri enjoyed a
strong finish to that race, achieving a double podium for McLaren.
Michael Schumacher is the most successful driver in the history of the
race with six previous victories.

Verstappen has won the Japanese Grand Prix is each of the last two
years, but there will be questions to answer for the Red Bull after the
reigning world champion was forced to retire after just three laps in
Melbourne. However, the team reiterated after the race that it was
unlikely that they had the pace to compete with the Ferrari in Australia.

It was a welcome return to form for Carlos Sainz, who landed victory in
Melbourne just two weeks after having his appendix removed. Charles
Leclerc capped a good weekend for the team by finishing second, with
Lando Norris taking third. The performance of the Ferrari could be a
good indicator that they may have a part to play in Japan.

Japanese Grand Prix Offshore Odds & Pick
Driver Odds
Max Verstappen
1.20
Sergio Perez
12.00
Charles Leclerc
17.00
Carlos Sainz
17.00
Lando Norris
26.00
Lewis Hamilton
34.00
George Russell
34.00
Verstappen’s perfect start to the season ended following a mechanical
issue in Australia, but it could be safe to presume that the team will
be able to get back on track in Japan in early April.

TAGS:
F1F1 2024Formula 1Japanese Grand PrixALEX DUDLEYAlex is an experienced
sports bettor that dedicates his time to ensuring that he makes solid
picks. His main sports include horse racing, soccer, golf and ice hockey.

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On 4/1/24 16:18, a425couple wrote:
> Well ??? Somewhere I read that!!
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here we go
https://thejudge13.com/2024/03/24/marko-says-max-wouldnt-have-won-anyway/

the key
Ferrari better at “front limited tracks”
“We were struggling early on, we could see that Ferrari and McLaren were
a step ahead of us. I think we just couldn’t get the balance in a
window. And there is some work to do for the coming races.

“We already saw last year in a track like this – for example, Las Vegas
a front-limited track – Ferrari was a lot stronger than us so we just
couldn’t look after the front tyres.”

Checo started the Grand Prix in sixth place after receiving a three
place grid drop penalty for impeding Haas F1 Nico Hulkenberg in
qualifying, though with the retirement of Verstappen the Mexican driver
made it home in P5. This is the second circuit of this type after
Bahrain that F1 has raced at so far this year,

with more Ferrari hope to come in Suzuka, Miami, Imola, Barcelona,
Silverstone, Spa, Zaandvoort, Qatar, COTA and Brazil. All in all half of
the races this year will be held at front limited circuits which bodes
well for the Ferrari pairing

MARKO SAYS MAX WOULDN’T HAVE WON ANYWAY
March 24, 2024 · by thejudge13 · in Daily F1 News and Comment. ·
2 Votes
For only the second time in the past twelve months a Red Bull driver did
not win the race at the Australian Grand Prix weekend. In each of the
three practice sessions a Red Bull car failed to top the time sheets and
in the first two sessions of Qualifying neither Max or Checo was quickest.

Verstappen pulled out two laps in Q3 which were each quick enough for
the pole position time, the 35th of his career, but this was the first
time we’d seen a car designed by Adrian Newey fastest. At the start of
the race, Red Bull now claim Verstappen’s rear right brake was stuck and
building up terrific heat while he waited for the rest of the cars to
form up behind him on the grid before lights out.

RB20 raises questions on tyre wear
But the writing was on the wall as early as in practice two that Ferrari
were here to mount a significant challenge to the world champions. There
it was the Ferrari of Charles Leclerc who demonstrated lap after lap
that the SF-24 was a match if not better on its medium tyres than either
Red Bull car.

Pirelli have rolled the dice this year stating their intention with the
tyres is to try and elect compounds for each race which will force the
teams into making two pit stops. This tends to make the races less
processional and regularly provides drivers on different tyre offsets
able to overtake each other rather than trail along in a DRS train.

This combined with Red Bull delivering a new platform for the RB20,
which for now appears to cope less well than its predecessor in terms of
tyre degradation – something Red Bull mastered in 2023 as they were
often the car to pit last for new tyres with Max building leads on those
who had already switched for fresh rubber.

Of course this bodes well for the coming races along with the fact that
McLaren were competitive with Ferrari for much of the 2024 Australian
Grand Prix.

Hamilton makes serious allegations about FIA

Perez surprising admission
So its unclear whether Max would have won the race had his car not
caught fire and he had to retire the RB20 after just five laps. A
non-Max win was described by one pit lane reporter as “a good day for
the sport” whereas had Verstappen been able to continue, it may have
been an exciting duel between him and Sainz to the end, with the Ferrari
winning out due to it being kinder than the Re Bull on the Pirelli tyres.

When asked whether the Ferrari race pace and lack of front end graining
meant Sainz would have won the race even had Verstappen not retired,
Checo was quick to respond.

“Absolutely,” he replied when Sky Sports F1. ”I think just as a team, we
just didn’t have the pace today. We didn’t have the pace throughout the
weekend. We were struggling already from Friday and we never got on top
of the management of tyres.”

Perez claimed even McLaren were probably on a par with the world
championship team but he notes the track in Melbourne is one where
Ferrari does go well.

Marko refuses to deny Mercedes “offer” to Max

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Ferrari better at “front limited tracks”
“We were struggling early on, we could see that Ferrari and McLaren were
a step ahead of us. I think we just couldn’t get the balance in a
window. And there is some work to do for the coming races.

“We already saw last year in a track like this – for example, Las Vegas
a front-limited track – Ferrari was a lot stronger than us so we just
couldn’t look after the front tyres.”

Checo started the Grand Prix in sixth place after receiving a three
place grid drop penalty for impeding Haas F1 Nico Hulkenberg in
qualifying, though with the retirement of Verstappen the Mexican driver
made it home in P5. This is the second circuit of this type after
Bahrain that F1 has raced at so far this year, with more Ferrari hope to
come in Suzuka, Miami, Imola, Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa, Zaandvoort,
Qatar, COTA and Brazil. All in all half of the races this year will be
held at front limited circuits which bodes well for the Ferrari pairing
who could mount a challenge to Max Verstappn this season.

Wolff breaks silence on legal battle with FIA

Marko questions Red Bull set up
“Checo, however, went backwards,” Helmut Marko mused to ServusTV. “Why?
We were at times two seconds slower than the race leader.

“We need to start looking at that. Maybe the tyre pressure was too high
for these conditions or we went the wrong way with the set-up because he
was two seconds slower.

“We thought the problems had been solved, which was the case with Max, I
think. But as I said, Checo’s race result does give us food for thought.”

As much as Marko believes Max is quicker than Sergio, even he must admit
that Perez being two seconds a lap slower would have probably meant Max
would also have found difficulties with his RB20, had he survived longer
than five laps.

Verstappen faces penalty blow in Australia

Horner defends his star driver
Verstappen appeared incensed on the team radio when it became apparent
he was required to retire his car. The Dutch driver jumped out of the
car and appeared to be gesticulating vigorously with mechanics from his
side of the garage.

Red Bull team boss Christian Horner sought to defuse the flashpoint
explaining: “A driver is always going to be frustrated when they get out
of the car from a retirement. He’s been very gracious with the team.

“That DNF hurts everyone in the same way. It’s a matter of learning from
it and understanding what caused it. Remarkable after three races he’s
still leading the World Championship even with that DNF.

“A lot of lessons learned today,” concluded Horner.

Hamilton and Wolff disagreement down under

> from
> https://www.offshoresportsbooks.com/news/japanese-grand-prix-f1-offshore-odds-pick-2/
>
> Japanese Grand Prix F1 Offshore Odds & Pick
> 2 minutes read
> LIKETWEETPIN
> PublishedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amUpdatedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amAuthorAlex
> DudleySHARE ARTICLE
> LIKETWEETPIN
> The competitive action on track in Formula 1 continues across the first
> weekend in April, with the Japanese Grand Prix being staged. Max
> Verstappen’s perfect start to the season was ended in Australia, but the
> Red Bull driver is heavily expected to respond in Asia.
>
> Before Betting On Japanese Grand Prix
> The Japanese Grand Prix is widely considered to be one of the most
> exciting races on the schedule. However, it will be staged earlier in
> the season for the first time in 2024, meaning that a 14th world
> champion won’t be crowned in early April. The Suzuka Circuit has staged
> the race since 1987, with the field competing over a total distance of
> 307.471 km.
>
> Max Verstappen continued his dominant season in the race last season,
> finishing over 19 seconds clear of Lando Norris. Oscar Piastri enjoyed a
> strong finish to that race, achieving a double podium for McLaren.
> Michael Schumacher is the most successful driver in the history of the
> race with six previous victories.
>
> Verstappen has won the Japanese Grand Prix is each of the last two
> years, but there will be questions to answer for the Red Bull after the
> reigning world champion was forced to retire after just three laps in
> Melbourne. However, the team reiterated after the race that it was
> unlikely that they had the pace to compete with the Ferrari in Australia.
>
> It was a welcome return to form for Carlos Sainz, who landed victory in
> Melbourne just two weeks after having his appendix removed. Charles
> Leclerc capped a good weekend for the team by finishing second, with
> Lando Norris taking third. The performance of the Ferrari could be a
> good indicator that they may have a part to play in Japan.
>
> Japanese Grand Prix Offshore Odds & Pick
> Driver    Odds
> Max Verstappen
> 1.20
> Sergio Perez
> 12.00
> Charles Leclerc
> 17.00
> Carlos Sainz
> 17.00
> Lando Norris
> 26.00
> Lewis Hamilton
> 34.00
> George Russell
> 34.00
> Verstappen’s perfect start to the season ended following a mechanical
> issue in Australia, but it could be safe to presume that the team will
> be able to get back on track in Japan in early April.
>
> TAGS:
> F1F1 2024Formula 1Japanese Grand PrixALEX DUDLEYAlex is an experienced
> sports bettor that dedicates his time to ensuring that he makes solid
> picks. His main sports include horse racing, soccer, golf and ice hockey.
>


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