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Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.

Check MSM for more.

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 by: Sir Tim - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 10:57 UTC

Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.
>
> Check MSM for more.
>

A sensible decision by Mercedes.

The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race. Let’s
hope it is not a whitewash.

--
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 by: Bigbird - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:08 UTC

Sir Tim wrote:

> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
> > dispute.
> >
> > Check MSM for more.
> >
>
> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>
> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race.
> Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.

I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant until
claimed otherwise on Sunday.

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 by: News - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:58 UTC

On 12/16/2021 5:36 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:
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> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.
>
> Check MSM for more.

Toto bound and gagged.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:13 UTC

On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
dispute.
>>
>> Check MSM for more.
>>
>
> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>
> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race. Let’s
> hope it is not a whitewash.
>
Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi

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 by: Alan - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:14 UTC

On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Sir Tim wrote:
>
>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
>>> dispute.
>>>
>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>
>>
>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>
>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race.
>> Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
>
> I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
> order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant until
> claimed otherwise on Sunday.

It must be nice to be omniscient.

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 by: Sir Tim - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:41 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
> dispute.
>>>
>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>
>>
>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>
>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race. Let’s
>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>
> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>

A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite clear, Masi
made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.

--
Sir Tim

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 by: Alan - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 19:09 UTC

On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>> all
>> dispute.
>>>>
>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>
>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>> race.
Let’s
>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>
>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>
>
> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
And you know that... ...how?

Seriously, I'm amazed how so many of you always know everything that
happens behind the scenes.

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 by: Bigbird - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 19:41 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Sir Tim wrote:
> >
> >>Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
> > > > dispute.
> > > >
> > > > Check MSM for more.
> > > >
> > >
> > > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> > >
> > > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
> > > race. Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
> >
> > I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
> > order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant
> > until claimed otherwise on Sunday.
>
> It must be nice to be omniscient.

"omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.

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 by: Bigbird - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 19:44 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> > Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> >> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
> dispute.
> > >
> >> Check MSM for more.
> > >
> >
> > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> >
> > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race.
> > Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
> >
> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi

Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is his
job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look incompetent an
his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...

So you pretend to know what "omniscient" means but are clueless as to
what scapegoat means.

I am not shocked.

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Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> > > On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
> > > > > all
> > > dispute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Check MSM for more.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> > > >
> > > > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
> > > > race.
> Let’s
> > > > hope it is not a whitewash.
> > > >
> > > Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
> > >
> >
> > A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
> > clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
> And you know that... ...how?
>

Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.

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 by: texas gate - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 19:50 UTC

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:09:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I'm amazed how so many of you always know everything that
> happens behind the scenes.

im amazed you are so fucking stupid

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:48 UTC

On 2021-12-16 2:44 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
>> dispute.
>>>>
>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>
>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the race.
>>> Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>
>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>
> Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is his
> job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look incompetent an
> his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...

The bosses are claiming that publicly, but that's why Masi exists:

The shield them.

>
> So you pretend to know what "omniscient" means but are clueless as to
> what scapegoat means.
>
> I am not shocked.
>

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:50 UTC

On 2021-12-16 2:41 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Sir Tim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>
>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>> race. Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>
>>> I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
>>> order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant
>>> until claimed otherwise on Sunday.
>>
>> It must be nice to be omniscient.
>
> "omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.
>

I was referring to your absolute surety that "they have always clearly
meant" something and the omniscience that it must take to know that
they've never been varied from before.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:50 UTC

On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>>>> all
>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>>> race.
>> Let’s
>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>
>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>
>>>
>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>> And you know that... ...how?
>>
>
> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>

And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
what he did "off his own bat"?

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 by: Sir Tim - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 08:46 UTC

Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>>>>> all
>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>>>> race.
>>> Let’s
>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>
>>
>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>
>
> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
> what he did "off his own bat"?
>

He was the *Race Director* FFS.
Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was
also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

--
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 by: geoff - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 10:59 UTC

On 17/12/2021 1:50 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>>>>> all
>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>>>> race.
>>> Let’s
>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>
>>
>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>
>
> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
> what he did "off his own bat"?

To channel you - Prove that he didn't .

geoff

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:42 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 2:41 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Sir Tim wrote:
> > > >
> >>>>Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
> > > > > > beyond all dispute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Check MSM for more.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> > > > >
> > > > > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
> > > > > race. Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
> > > >
> > > > I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs
> > > > in order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly
> > > > meant until claimed otherwise on Sunday.
> > >
> > > It must be nice to be omniscient.
> >
> > "omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.
> >
>
> I was referring to your absolute surety that "they have always
> clearly meant" something

Yup, there is very little disagreement about that. In fact you are the
only one outside of RBR who I have seen claim that the "any" in the reg
could possibly have been intended to mean or has ever been implemented
as anything but all those fitting the criteria.

> and the omniscience that it must take to
> know that they've never been varied from before.

Yet again you are making very little sense. and are just proving
yourself an argumentative twat, TOTY.

If you can show that the regs have ever previously been interpreted as
they were abused on Sunday you have the floor; personally I think you
have been used to wipe it.

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:45 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
> > > > > > > beyond all
> > > > > dispute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check MSM for more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of
> > > > > > the race.
> > > Let’s
> > > > > > hope it is not a whitewash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
> > > > clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
> > > And you know that... ...how?
> > >
> >
> > Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
> >
>
> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
> did what he did "off his own bat"?

There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
anyone else's.

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:48 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2021-12-16 2:44 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
> > > > > all
> > > dispute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Check MSM for more.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> > > >
> > > > The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
> > > > race. Let’s hope it is not a whitewash.
> > > >
> > > Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
> >
> > Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is
> > his job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look
> > incompetent an his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...
>
> The bosses are claiming that publicly, but that's why Masi exists:
>
> The shield them.
>

One of your more asinine assertions.

We may have to develop a Baker scale for asinine assertions.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:13 UTC

On 2021-12-17 3:46 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>>>>> race.
>>>> Let’s
>>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>>
>>
>> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
>> what he did "off his own bat"?
>>
>
> He was the *Race Director* FFS.

Appointed by god... ...or just hired by the FIA?

Do you think that he carries out his duties without instructios from the
FIA?

> Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was
> also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

No. But I do think that the people who sign his paycheques and who can
FIRE him make it known how they would like him to run things.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:13 UTC

On 2021-12-17 5:59 a.m., geoff wrote:
> On 17/12/2021 1:50 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of the
>>>>>>> race.
>>>> Let’s
>>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>>
>>
>> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
>> did what he did "off his own bat"?
>
> To channel you - Prove that he didn't .

No.

The one who claims he did it "off his own bat" with no way they could
possibly know it is the one who should proffer proof.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:14 UTC

On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
>>>>>>>> beyond all
>>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of
>>>>>>> the race.
>>>> Let’s
>>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>>
>>
>> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
>> did what he did "off his own bat"?
>
> There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
> to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
> anyone else's.
>

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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 by: Matt Larkin - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:33 UTC

On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:14:34 UTC, Alan wrote:
> On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> >>> Alan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
> >>>>>>>> beyond all
> >>>>>> dispute.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of
> >>>>>>> the race.
> >>>> Let’s
> >>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
> >>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
> >>>> And you know that... ...how?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
> >>>
> >>
> >> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
> >> did what he did "off his own bat"?
> >
> > There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
> > to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
> > anyone else's.
> >
> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Occam's razor would probably disagree with you in this case.

If the crash was one lap later, or one lap earlier, none of this would have any
controversy at all. Either Lewis would have definitely won under SC conditions
or the "normal" protocol would have been followed and Max would have gained
the tyre advantage to overtake as he did.

There is no way on this earth that Masi had a pre-planned strategy for this
niche scenario, and thus the most likely explanation is that he made a
rapid evaluation on the spot of the best way to "go racing" again before the
end of the race.

He might have had a note in his pocket from Liberty saying "Do whatever
you are allowed to to make it interesting". But that's as far as outside
influence on this is likely to have extended.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:46 UTC

On 2021-12-17 11:33 a.m., Matt Larkin wrote:
> On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:14:34 UTC, Alan wrote:
>> On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
>>>>>>>>>> beyond all
>>>>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check MSM for more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A sensible decision by Mercedes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The FIA is to conduct a “detailed analysis” of the end of
>>>>>>>>> the race.
>>>>>> Let’s
>>>>>>>>> hope it is not a whitewash.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
>>>>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
>>>>>> And you know that... ...how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
>>>> did what he did "off his own bat"?
>>>
>>> There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
>>> to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
>>> anyone else's.
>>>
>> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
> Occam's razor would probably disagree with you in this case.

No. It wouldn't.

Occam's Razor would agree that the simplest explanation is that
employees follow the wishes over their employers.

>
> If the crash was one lap later, or one lap earlier, none of this would have any
> controversy at all. Either Lewis would have definitely won under SC conditions
> or the "normal" protocol would have been followed and Max would have gained
> the tyre advantage to overtake as he did.
>
> There is no way on this earth that Masi had a pre-planned strategy for this
> niche scenario, and thus the most likely explanation is that he made a
> rapid evaluation on the spot of the best way to "go racing" again before the
> end of the race.

I'm not suggesting that there was a specific, pre-planned strategy for
this (or for any) scenario.

I'm suggesting that his bosses would have made their wishes known for
there being a finish to the season that didn't involve the championship
being won under a yellow flag and preferably, a finish that had both
contenders racing each other at the end.

>
> He might have had a note in his pocket from Liberty saying "Do whatever
> you are allowed to to make it interesting". But that's as far as outside
> influence on this is likely to have extended.

If you received such a note, would you not have asked "How far would you
like me to take that?". I would.

Why else do you think it has come to light that there was a specific
agreement between the Race Director and the teams for this event only
about it being a "priority" that any safety car period near the end of
the race would be ended as quickly as possible?

Again, Occam's Razor suggests that there had to be some cause for that
agreement to have been discussed and agreed.

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