I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.

Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.

So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void. FIrst match is tonight, with USA v Jamaica. I would like to think KANADA has a chance of winning this thing, but that result vs USA last week and the squad they are taking, makes me think not. Kanada is missing probably their 3 best players (Davies, David and Tajon).

This thing is being held in Kanada and USA from what I understand, I know that Kanada play at least one game in Toronto. I will only post the Canadian line up, but all of you Cubans or Guadolpeans or St Kits Nevisians, please fell free to add your rosters to this thread.

CANADA
GK- Milan Borjan | SRB / FK Crvena zvezda (Red Star Belgrade)
GK- Tom McGill | ENG / Brighton & Hove Albion FC
GK- Dayne St. Clair | USA / Minnesota United FC
CB- Moïse Bombito | USA / Colorado Rapids
CB- Scott Kennedy | GER / SSV Jahn Regensburg
CB- Zachary Mcgraw | USA / Portland Timbers
CB- Steven Vitória | POR / GD Chaves
CB- Dominick Zator | POL / Korona Kielce
FB- Samuel Adekugbe | TUR / Galatasaray SK
FB- Zachary Brault-Guillard | CAN / CF Montréal
FB- Richie Laryea | CAN / Toronto FC
FB- Kamal Miller | USA / Inter Miami FC
M- Ali Ahmed | Vancouver Whitecaps FC
M- Stephen Eustáquio | POR / FC Porto
M- Victor Loturi | SCO / Ross County FC
M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
M- David Wotherspoon | Unattached / sans club
F- David Junior Hoilett | ENG / Reading FC
F- Charles-Andreas Brym | NED / FC Eindhoven
F- Lucas Cavallini | MEX / Club Tijuana
F- Liam Millar | SUI / FC Basel
F- Jacen Russell-Rowe | USA / Columbus Crew
F- Jacob Shaffelburg | USA / Nashville SC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
>
> Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
>
> So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.

Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year, so let's call this the Copa Oro.

Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.

RM

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
>
> > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> >
> > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> >
> > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
>
> Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,

I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?

> so let's call this the Copa Oro.

7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).

Ciao,
Werner

> Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
>
> RM

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >
> > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > >
> > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > >
> > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> >
> > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar)..

You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!

RM

>
> Ciao,
> Werner
> > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> >
> > RM

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > >
> > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > >
> > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > >
> > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
>
>
> RM
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Werner
> > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > >
> > > RM

It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot) to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > > >
> > > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> > You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
> >
> >
> > RM
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Werner
> > > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > > >
> > > > RM
> It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot)

Yeah, I said the same - the rebound was easier to score than the penalty! Can’t believe he missed, Jamaica let USA slip through their fingers there.

Saw the start of Haiti- Qatar, the stadium was practically deserted. Not a great look. Qatar cement their credentials as the worst World Cup host ever by losing 2-1 to Haiti.

RM

to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 3:00:59 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > > > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > > > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > > > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > > > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> > > You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
> > >
> > >
> > > RM
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Werner
> > > > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > > > >
> > > > > RM
> > It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot)
> Yeah, I said the same - the rebound was easier to score than the penalty! Can’t believe he missed, Jamaica let USA slip through their fingers there.
>
>
> Saw the start of Haiti- Qatar, the stadium was practically deserted. Not a great look. Qatar cement their credentials as the worst World Cup host ever by losing 2-1 to Haiti.

It was a double header ( 'mericans love double headers), by the time Mexico played Honduras, the stadium was Rocking, really Rocking within a minute of the kick off when Mexico scored. I didnt watch the end, but they won 4-0 vs Honduras, which is a good result and they are now projected to win the Gold Cup.

I found the Haiti v Qatar game was Rocking too, even if the quality was a bit poor. I really expected Qatar to at least win this comfortably, so yes, they probably are the weakest WC host ever. Even Kanada beats Haiti every time.

>
>
> RM
> to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

Double Header today in Florida.

6:30pm El Salvador vs Martinique
8:30pm Costa Rica vs Panama

I am going to guess there are more Salvadorinos in S.Florida, Which Island is Martinique? Is that the one which had Karembu and other French natnl team players back in the day?

It will be interesting to see how Rocking Costa Rica v Panama will be, is their a large population of them in Florida? Will americans go out to watch this match?

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:40:32 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 3:00:59 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > > > > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > > > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > > > > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > > > > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > > > > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> > > > You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RM
> > > > >
> > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > Werner
> > > > > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RM
> > > It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot)
> > Yeah, I said the same - the rebound was easier to score than the penalty! Can’t believe he missed, Jamaica let USA slip through their fingers there.
> >
> >
> > Saw the start of Haiti- Qatar, the stadium was practically deserted. Not a great look. Qatar cement their credentials as the worst World Cup host ever by losing 2-1 to Haiti.
> It was a double header ( 'mericans love double headers), by the time Mexico played Honduras, the stadium was Rocking, really Rocking within a minute of the kick off when Mexico scored. I didnt watch the end, but they won 4-0 vs Honduras, which is a good result and they are now projected to win the Gold Cup.
>
> I found the Haiti v Qatar game was Rocking too, even if the quality was a bit poor. I really expected Qatar to at least win this comfortably, so yes, they probably are the weakest WC host ever. Even Kanada beats Haiti every time.
> >
> >
> > RM
> > to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 6:04:44 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Double Header today in Florida.
>
> 6:30pm El Salvador vs Martinique

Martinique lead 2-0 at the half and I want to say this is a big upset, except it is not, Martinique is only ranked two spots behind El Salvador in CONCACAF rankings. According to TV guy, this is the tightest group. AS far as the game goes, Martinique are deservedly leading.

> 8:30pm Costa Rica vs Panama
>
> I am going to guess there are more Salvadorinos in S.Florida, Which Island is Martinique? Is that the one which had Karembu and other French natnl team players back in the day?
>
> It will be interesting to see how Rocking Costa Rica v Panama will be, is their a large population of them in Florida? Will americans go out to watch this match?
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:40:32 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 3:00:59 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > > > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > > > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > > > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > > > > > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > > > > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > > > > > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > > > > > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > > > > > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> > > > > You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > RM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > Werner
> > > > > > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RM
> > > > It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot)
> > > Yeah, I said the same - the rebound was easier to score than the penalty! Can’t believe he missed, Jamaica let USA slip through their fingers there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Saw the start of Haiti- Qatar, the stadium was practically deserted. Not a great look. Qatar cement their credentials as the worst World Cup host ever by losing 2-1 to Haiti.
> > It was a double header ( 'mericans love double headers), by the time Mexico played Honduras, the stadium was Rocking, really Rocking within a minute of the kick off when Mexico scored. I didnt watch the end, but they won 4-0 vs Honduras, which is a good result and they are now projected to win the Gold Cup.
> >
> > I found the Haiti v Qatar game was Rocking too, even if the quality was a bit poor. I really expected Qatar to at least win this comfortably, so yes, they probably are the weakest WC host ever. Even Kanada beats Haiti every time.
> > >
> > >
> > > RM
> > > to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

WE are getting finally getting rain on the Iceberg, so hopefully that puts out the Forest fires. I wont say the smog here was Cairo bad, but it was bad. Really hot and Humid here now, I almost want Winter back. As the saying goes, It is not the heat that gets you, its the humidity. Between the bad air quality and oppressive humidity, you gotta stay inside and watch Football, the times work for me as well, none of this getting drunk at noon cus of the time difference, games are on at 7 and 9 pm, which is proper.

Anyhow, Kanada plays today in the Rockingest cup on Earth, I think it is the one and only game that will be played in Canada for the Gold Cup, still a better ratio of games than Kanada is getting for the 26 WC.

7:00pm Canada vs Guadeloupe
8:45pm Guatemala vs Cuba

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:26:57 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 6:04:44 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Double Header today in Florida.
> >
> > 6:30pm El Salvador vs Martinique
> Martinique lead 2-0 at the half and I want to say this is a big upset, except it is not, Martinique is only ranked two spots behind El Salvador in CONCACAF rankings. According to TV guy, this is the tightest group. AS far as the game goes, Martinique are deservedly leading.
> > 8:30pm Costa Rica vs Panama
> >
> > I am going to guess there are more Salvadorinos in S.Florida, Which Island is Martinique? Is that the one which had Karembu and other French natnl team players back in the day?
> >
> > It will be interesting to see how Rocking Costa Rica v Panama will be, is their a large population of them in Florida? Will americans go out to watch this match?
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:40:32 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 3:00:59 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:42:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:18:54 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:00:42 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think by now everyone is aware of the "Rockingness" of CONCACAF as a federation, I mean come on what other Continental Cup invites countries from outside of the confederation. Hell, they even invite top
> > > > > > > > > countries like Brazil or Korea or Colombia to participate (Kanada beat Kolombia in the final when they won the Gold Cup back in 2000), this year Qatar is invited.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Most other confederations will have the qualifying for their tournament done years or months in advance, CONCACAF just finished the qualifying for final spots something like 2 days ago, because that is just the
> > > > > > > > > free spirited Rockingness of the confederation, they wont use VARobots or 5 subs or penalty boxes or sidelines, it will all be a wide open pitch like in Cricket or Moonball or whatever that game is called? I dont even
> > > > > > > > > think they will have referees and if they do, they will all be chicks in bikinis.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So if you are football deprived after what seems like 3 years of non stop football, the GOld Cup will fill that void.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Looks like more Spanish speaking than English speaking countries this year,
> > > > > > > I'd be surprised if there was any edition where that wasn't the case?
> > > > > > > > so let's call this the Copa Oro.
> > > > > > > 7 Spanish, 5 English, 4 French (with Canada counting for the latter two).
> > > > > > > Since it appears that the French somewhat uncharacteristically don't translate the name of the tournament into
> > > > > > > Coupe d'Or, there's actually a majority for Gold Cup (not counting Qatar).
> > > > > > You’re assuming the French speakers would rather use English rather than Spanish. Plus “d’or” sounds much closer to “Oro” than “Gold”. Copa Oro for me!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > > Werner
> > > > > > > > Being broadcast on Viaplay in the UK but the live match times aren't kind to any UK viewer who values their sleep. Hopefully I'll still be able to stream the recordings the next day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RM
> > > > > It would seem in Chicago the preferred nomenclature is indeed Copa Oro (signs along the pitch all said Copa Oro, not a gold cup to be found.). A decent first match for the Rockingest tournament in football. Jamaica could have won this had Bailey scored from the spot in the 1st half ( or even from the rebound, which was an easier shot)
> > > > Yeah, I said the same - the rebound was easier to score than the penalty! Can’t believe he missed, Jamaica let USA slip through their fingers there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saw the start of Haiti- Qatar, the stadium was practically deserted.. Not a great look. Qatar cement their credentials as the worst World Cup host ever by losing 2-1 to Haiti.
> > > It was a double header ( 'mericans love double headers), by the time Mexico played Honduras, the stadium was Rocking, really Rocking within a minute of the kick off when Mexico scored. I didnt watch the end, but they won 4-0 vs Honduras, which is a good result and they are now projected to win the Gold Cup.
> > >
> > > I found the Haiti v Qatar game was Rocking too, even if the quality was a bit poor. I really expected Qatar to at least win this comfortably, so yes, they probably are the weakest WC host ever. Even Kanada beats Haiti every time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RM
> > > > to make it 2-0. Jamaica took an early lead and Antonio was having an easy time vs the Yankee defenders, Bailey missed the PK chance to make it 2-0 and then USA grew as the game progressed, though it took them over 80 minutes to make it 1-1. I would say it was a fairly even match as the score suggests. Seems like a lot of English based players for Jamaica.

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:10:17 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> WE are getting finally getting rain on the Iceberg, so hopefully that puts out the Forest fires.

How can you have forest fires on an iceberg?!

Is the Iceberg Canada? Why do you call it the iceberg? It's not that cold is it? I could understand it if you called Greenland the iceberg, but Canada?

So I started streaming the repeat of Saint Kitts & Nevis v USA on Viaplay but USA went 2-0 up after about 20 minutes and I got bored so I fast forwarded to the end and USA won 6-0.

Not a very "rocking" game but the real result that mattered was that the board on the halfway line alternated between "Gold Cup" and "Copa Oro".

RM

I think the beauty of CONCACAF and the Gold Cup is that it answers the big questions in World football, like is Honduras better than Haiti. I personally think honduras is better ( and i Know the worlrd of football may disagree ), but I really think so. It is games like this that make CONCACAF the Rockingest confederation thing in football

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:30:51 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> So I started streaming the repeat of Saint Kitts & Nevis v USA on Viaplay but USA went 2-0 up after about 20 minutes and I got bored so I fast forwarded to the end and USA won 6-0.
>
> Not a very "rocking" game but the real result that mattered was that the board on the halfway line alternated between "Gold Cup" and "Copa Oro".
>
>
> RM

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 2:38:31 AM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> I think the beauty of CONCACAF and the Gold Cup is that it answers the big questions in World football, like is Honduras better than Haiti. I personally think honduras is better ( and i Know the worlrd of football may disagree ), but I really think so. It is games like this that make CONCACAF the Rockingest confederation thing in football

Well actually, in South America, the whole qualifying tournament for the World Cup is one League Championship, which clearly ranks every team in the continent from top to bottom. What better way than that to answer the question of "Is Bolivia better than Peru?" or "Is Paraguay better than Colombia?" ? So you've just proved that CONMEBOL is the rockingest confederation in football haven't you?

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 3:38:31 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> I think the beauty of CONCACAF and the Gold Cup is that it answers the big questions in World football, like is Honduras better than Haiti.

The slightly worrying thing here is that they were both eliminated by the worst World Cup host ever?

Ciao,
Werner

>I personally think honduras is better ( and i Know the worlrd of football may disagree ), but I really think so. It is games like this that make CONCACAF the Rockingest confederation thing in football

On 2023-07-02 19:38, Binder Dundat wrote:
> I think the beauty of CONCACAF and the Gold Cup is that it answers the big questions in World football, like is Honduras better than Haiti. I personally think honduras is better ( and i Know the worlrd of football may disagree ), but I really think so. It is games like this that make CONCACAF the Rockingest confederation thing in football
>
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:30:51 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
>> So I started streaming the repeat of Saint Kitts & Nevis v USA on Viaplay but USA went 2-0 up after about 20 minutes and I got bored so I fast forwarded to the end and USA won 6-0.
>>
>> Not a very "rocking" game but the real result that mattered was that the board on the halfway line alternated between "Gold Cup" and "Copa Oro".
>>
>>
>> RM

Canada up against it today. They have to beat Cuba by 2 goals or more
to be sure of progressing in the event of a draw between Guadeloupe and
Guatemala. Need to win by 3 goals, possibly more depending on goals
scored, to top the group if those two draw.
If the Gua-Gua match is won by one team or the other, the best Canada
can do is second place, and they need to win for that.

If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
choice or thereabouts.

We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.

This could be a year for a team like Jamaica or Panama to win it all.

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 9:57:56 AM UTC-7, MH wrote:

> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
> choice or thereabouts.

May be true, but I think there's more to it than that. You have real money problems in the Canadian situation right now.

Mike

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 5:57:56 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:

> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
> choice or thereabouts.
>
> We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
> also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.

Why have the USA, Mexico and Canada not picked their best players?

On 2023-07-05 04:01, Mark wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 5:57:56 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
>
>> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
>> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
>> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
>> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
>> choice or thereabouts.
>>
>> We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
>> also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.
>
> Why have the USA, Mexico and Canada not picked their best players?

Because they all just played in the CONCACAF nations' league semifinals
and finals, and after a long season including the world cup, need a rest
? Davies has had quite a few injuries, David, Eustaquio, Buchanan,
Johnston have all played a lot of games for their clubs.
I believe there are also club commitments, which Canada has always tried
to accommodate.
Anyway, a good chance to take a closer look at fringe and uncapped players.

I did see the whole game yesterday. It was only Cuba, though they dod
seem to have some promising younger players. Anyway, Canada looked
fairly cohesive at times, and had some nice build up play. They
eventually won 4-2, but it should have been much higher. All three
penalties (one for us, two for them) were on the dubious side and I
would not have given any of them. Yes, Cuba's first was a genuine foul
by our keeper, but it was preceded by a fairly blatant foul by a Cuban
attacker on Osorio. Or so it looked. The other two were weak handball
claims - the first off to the side of the penalty area and not a single
Canadian was asking for it - everyone was surprised by the VAR
intervention. The second Cuban one had the ball pinballing around from
a corner, off at least one head, a shoulder, and possibly a Cuban arm
before hitting Zator's upper arm, with any "unnatural" position he was
in possibly the result of a Cuban attacker pulling on his arm. Hard to
tell from the replay.

Canada started in an unusual (for them) 4-4-2 and it mostly worked well.

GK. St. Clair. At fault for the penalty but otherwise safe with OK
distribution and a couple of decent saves. I for one will be happy if
Borjan never comes back.
6/10

LB. Ali Ahmed. Very impressive on either side. Great pace and
attacking flair. Competent enough in defence. Worth a lot more looks.
8/10. Three caps so far, all at the Gold Cup. 22 years old.

CB. McGraw. 26 years old and a late discovery (American with a
Canadian mother). Reasonably solid but a bit lumbering. 5/10.

CB. Kamal Miller. One of the more experienced members of this squad
now. Passing was good, defending aggressive - sometimes too aggressive.
6/10

RB. Laryea. He is quick, and a handful for opposing teams when going
forward. Also a mean SOB who is quite provocative and always playing
near the edge. Wins a lot of fouls. 8/10

MF: Liam Fraser. Has been a fringe player for a few years now, and
does not play at a very high level in Europe (Belgian second tier). Has
always done well for Canada when called on. Ran things quite well from
central midfield and his passing was OK. 7/10

MF. Moise Bombito. 23 and alleged to have great potential. It didn't
show. He was awful in possession and kept giving the ball away. Subbed
before the first half was over. 3/10

MF. Osorio. Established player with good all round ability, getting
back on track after being plagued with injuries. Did everything
required, but finishing and timing a bit off. Scored Canada's nicest
goal. 7/10

MF. Hoilett. Getting old but still one of our more skilled players,
and had a lot of nice touches. Scored a penalty and involved in many of
our good moves. 7/10

FW. Cavallini. Better than usual, and did provide some good passes and
participated in build up. Did not really have any good scoring chances
except for one that ended up in the net anyway. He was more mobile than
usual but he is still too slow and his first touch is often poor. 5/10

FW. Liam Millar. Played more centrally and further forward than usual
and generally did very well. He is fast, and his touch is good, but his
crossing is not great. Scored his first goal for Canada on a header.
Has been on the fringe for a long time, also with his various club
teams, but seems to have settled down with Basel. Still only 23, and
already 20 caps (mostly as a sub), so nice to see him start and score.
7/10

SUBS:

Jayden Nelson. Replaced Bombito in the first half (33rd minute), and
it was certainly not like for like. Much more attacking player and he
is quick and willing to take players on. Scored a goal by being
quickest to react to a loose ball after Cavallini failed to score a good
chance. 8/10

Victor Loturi. Came on as a second half sub (69th minute for Hoilett, I
guess) and did nothing wrong. First cap here, so now committed to
Canada. Ex Cavalry (Calgary CPL) player now a regular with Ross COunty
in the Scottish Premier League. 22 year old.

Scott Kennedy. Came on late (69th minute) for Ahmed, resulting in a
switch to a 3-5-2. Game was won by then. Did OK

Jacen Russell-ROwe. Came on for Cavallini (69th) . Actually had some
chances and looked confident in attack.

Dominic Zator. Another former Calgary Cavalry player, now in Poland.
Replaced McGraw who had cramp 83rd minute), but I don't think he even
touched the ball except for the penalty incident, which was not his fault.

At least the entire squad has now seen the pitch except for 3rd choice
GK McGill (Brighton)

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:56:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
> On 2023-07-05 04:01, Mark wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 5:57:56 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
> >
> >> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
> >> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
> >> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné.. Only
> >> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
> >> choice or thereabouts.
> >>
> >> We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
> >> also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.
> >
> > Why have the USA, Mexico and Canada not picked their best players?
> Because they all just played in the CONCACAF nations' league semifinals
> and finals, and after a long season including the world cup, need a rest
> ?

You know CONCACAF better than me, but as an outsider I find this hard to comprehend. This is your confederation's championship, for crying out loud, surely you rest your best players in the Nations League and pick your strongest squad for the Gold Cup?

It's hard to imagine European teams going all out to win the Nations League then picking under strength teams for the European Championship?

Anyway, I watched some of Guadeloupe - Guatemala, which was a thoroughly entertaining game with Guatemala coming from behind to win 3-2. Bit of an odd scene with Guadeloupe scoring a goal which was then scratched off VAR and changed to a penalty to Guadeloupe - surely you just let the goal stand? - Guadeloupe scored the penalty to go 2-1 up but Guatemala responded with some good attacking play to come through 3-2 winners. Guadeloupe missed a penalty (saved by the keeper) at the end.

Good atmosphere from the majority Guatemalan crowd, however, throwing foreign objects at the Guadeloupe players after they scored wasn't nice and a Guatemala fan got onto the pitch in an effort to put off the Guadeloupe penalty taker, which is just poor sportsmanship. It was the penalty they scored so ultimately had no effect, but still unpleasant.

Will such scenes be repeated at World Cup 2026, I wonder?

RM

On 2023-07-05 14:05, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:56:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-07-05 04:01, Mark wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 5:57:56 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
>>>
>>>> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
>>>> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
>>>> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
>>>> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
>>>> choice or thereabouts.
>>>>
>>>> We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
>>>> also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.
>>>
>>> Why have the USA, Mexico and Canada not picked their best players?
>> Because they all just played in the CONCACAF nations' league semifinals
>> and finals, and after a long season including the world cup, need a rest
>> ?
>
> You know CONCACAF better than me, but as an outsider I find this hard to comprehend. This is your confederation's championship, for crying out loud, surely you rest your best players in the Nations League and pick your strongest squad for the Gold Cup?

I don't know if this is going to be a general trend, but that is
certainly what all of USA, Canada and Mexico seem to have done.

Maybe it is because there has never been all that much prestige
associated with the Gold Cup ? Our WCQ competitions have had the best
6 from the region in them (best 8 last time) for a while, so the
relative strengths of teams are pretty well known.
>
> It's hard to imagine European teams going all out to win the Nations League then picking under strength teams for the European Championship?

Maybe that day will come? There is no real reason to see the Euros,
with so many teams now qualifying and the luck of the draw significant,
as a more legitimate championship of Europe than the nations' league,
except tradition.

>
> Anyway, I watched some of Guadeloupe - Guatemala, which was a thoroughly entertaining game with Guatemala coming from behind to win 3-2. Bit of an odd scene with Guadeloupe scoring a goal which was then scratched off VAR and changed to a penalty to Guadeloupe - surely you just let the goal stand?

Normally yes, but maybe the goal was scored illegitimately , after a
foul occurred ?

- Guadeloupe scored the penalty to go 2-1 up but Guatemala responded
with some good attacking play to come through 3-2 winners. Guadeloupe
missed a penalty (saved by the keeper) at the end.
>
> Good atmosphere from the majority Guatemalan crowd, however, throwing foreign objects at the Guadeloupe players after they scored wasn't nice and a Guatemala fan got onto the pitch in an effort to put off the Guadeloupe penalty taker, which is just poor sportsmanship. It was the penalty they scored so ultimately had no effect, but still unpleasant.
>
> Will such scenes be repeated at World Cup 2026, I wonder?

Doubt it. I would not give great odds of Guatemala qualifying for one
thing. Panama, Jamaica, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras, Trinidad and
Tobago, and nowadays possibly even Curacao, Haiti, and Suriname are
generally better.

>
>
> RM

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:43:27 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2023-07-05 14:05, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:56:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-05 04:01, Mark wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 5:57:56 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If this tournament has shown anything, it is how toothless and clueless
> >>>> the Canada B team is. We are without Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio,
> >>>> Buchanan, Johnston, Adekugbe, Hutchinson (retired), Kaye and Koné. Only
> >>>> Miller. Laryea and Vitoria are left among those you might consider first
> >>>> choice or thereabouts.
> >>>>
> >>>> We clearly have nowhere near the depth of Mexico and the US, who both
> >>>> also left a lot of their more well known names off the roster.
> >>>
> >>> Why have the USA, Mexico and Canada not picked their best players?
> >> Because they all just played in the CONCACAF nations' league semifinals
> >> and finals, and after a long season including the world cup, need a rest
> >> ?
> >
> > You know CONCACAF better than me, but as an outsider I find this hard to comprehend. This is your confederation's championship, for crying out loud, surely you rest your best players in the Nations League and pick your strongest squad for the Gold Cup?
> I don't know if this is going to be a general trend, but that is
> certainly what all of USA, Canada and Mexico seem to have done.
>
> Maybe it is because there has never been all that much prestige
> associated with the Gold Cup ? Our WCQ competitions have had the best
> 6 from the region in them (best 8 last time) for a while, so the
> relative strengths of teams are pretty well known.
> >
> > It's hard to imagine European teams going all out to win the Nations League then picking under strength teams for the European Championship?
> Maybe that day will come? There is no real reason to see the Euros,
> with so many teams now qualifying and the luck of the draw significant,
> as a more legitimate championship of Europe than the nations' league,
> except tradition.
> >
> > Anyway, I watched some of Guadeloupe - Guatemala, which was a thoroughly entertaining game with Guatemala coming from behind to win 3-2. Bit of an odd scene with Guadeloupe scoring a goal which was then scratched off VAR and changed to a penalty to Guadeloupe - surely you just let the goal stand?
> Normally yes, but maybe the goal was scored illegitimately , after a
> foul occurred ?
> - Guadeloupe scored the penalty to go 2-1 up but Guatemala responded
> with some good attacking play to come through 3-2 winners. Guadeloupe
> missed a penalty (saved by the keeper) at the end.
> >
> > Good atmosphere from the majority Guatemalan crowd, however, throwing foreign objects at the Guadeloupe players after they scored wasn't nice and a Guatemala fan got onto the pitch in an effort to put off the Guadeloupe penalty taker, which is just poor sportsmanship. It was the penalty they scored so ultimately had no effect, but still unpleasant.
> >
> > Will such scenes be repeated at World Cup 2026, I wonder?
> Doubt it. I would not give great odds of Guatemala qualifying for one
> thing. Panama, Jamaica, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras, Trinidad and
> Tobago, and nowadays possibly even Curacao, Haiti, and Suriname are
> generally better.
>
> >
> >
> > RM

I think the Nations league has something to do with Qualifying for Olympics or WC or something?

Anyhow, not the most Rocking cup ever, I dont give Canada much of a chance, I suppose it is better to play USA in the QF than Jamaica for the simple reason it is a derby match. Mexico probably will win this thing, be nice if Jamaica did something, I thought they were as good as USA, Kanada on the other hand is about as good as Guadeloupe.

>>>
>>>
>>> RM
>
>
> I think the Nations league has something to do with Qualifying for Olympics or WC or something?

Not that I can find anywhere. Olympics is U23 so it can't be that.
>
> Anyhow, not the most Rocking cup ever, I dont give Canada much of a chance, I suppose it is better to play USA in the QF than Jamaica for the simple reason it is a derby match. Mexico probably will win this thing, be nice if Jamaica did something, I thought they were as good as USA, Kanada on the other hand is about as good as Guadeloupe.

I too expect the USA to steamroll us on Sunday. We have have not beaten
them on their own turf in a very very long time.
There were some promising signs yesterday, and if Herdman makes wise
choices, and the US has a very off day, we might squeak a win on
penalties or something. But I still think our defence is weak, and
without Koné and Eustaquio in central midfield, we are likely to get
over-run.

I too hope Jamaica or Panama can win this tournament.

Binder Dundat wrote:
>
> I think the Nations league has something to do with Qualifying for
> Olympics or WC or something?

If you are on about the UEFA Nations League, then yes there are paths to
qualify for both the European Championships and the FIFA World Cup based
on Nations League position, via spots in play-offs. (Not the Olympics
though, as that is classed as an under-age tournament.) It's like a
back-door for nations that haven't qualified directly.

On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 1:15:52 AM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
> Binder Dundat wrote:
> >
> > I think the Nations league has something to do with Qualifying for
> > Olympics or WC or something?
> If you are on about the UEFA Nations League, then yes there are paths to
> qualify for both the European Championships and the FIFA World Cup based
> on Nations League position, via spots in play-offs. (Not the Olympics
> though, as that is classed as an under-age tournament.) It's like a
> back-door for nations that haven't qualified directly.

Did anyone see the match between Costa Rica and Martinique? 6-4! That sounded like an interesting match.

Also, how good are Guatemala?