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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:54:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I'm sure he's going to be delighted to be racing where team orders won't
> require him to finish second.

delighted is a queer word
you fucking queer

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:54:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> racing

you dont know what racing is
you fucking idiot

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On 26/12/2021 7:55 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
> What teams and drivers most under performed for the 2021 F1 season?

BAK

geoff

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 4:31:37 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 26/12/2021 7:55 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
> > What teams and drivers most under performed for the 2021 F1 season?

> BAK

lol

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 by: Alan - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 01:19 UTC

On 2022-01-02 2:44 p.m., Martin Harran wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 13:54:48 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-02 10:52 a.m., XYXPDQ wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-01-01 4:22 a.m., AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:51:21 -0800, Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-12-28 4:47 a.m., AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:08:56 +0000, Martin Harran
>>>>>>> <martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Mark Jackson
>>>>>>>> <mjac...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/27/2021 2:10 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 10:55:19 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> What teams and drivers most under performed for the 2021 F1
>>>>>>>>>>> season?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For drivers it's between Bottas and Perez.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have to give it to Bottas, and Merc clearly agree as they canned
>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> His performance wasn't much changed from previous years, so hardly a
>>>>>>>>> disappointment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will be interesting to see what he does in his new ride.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I fear not well - he won't have a car that can qualify near the front,
>>>>>>>>> and making his way forward through traffic hasn't revealed itself as a
>>>>>>>>> strong point in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had always liked Bottas and thought he had never got the chance to
>>>>>>>> really show his true ability so I was pleased for him when he got his
>>>>>>>> chance with Mercedes. He turned out a big disappointment; he is a good
>>>>>>>> diver but clearly second division, nowhere near the same league as
>>>>>>>> divers like Hamilton, Verstappen, Vettel, Alonso, Räikkönen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Russell I hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottas is a fast driver but not a racer. Even when he grows a bit of
>>>>>>> stubble he's Mr Safety First.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, but that's just a bunch of nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottas "not a racer"? Please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He may not be the very best racer on the planet, but he's certainly
>>>>>> among the very best.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd best get on to Toto quick before he cements his mistake.
>>>> How much do think Bottas WANTS to be at Mercedes?
>>>
>>> I suspect he's very relieved to be changing teams.
>>
>> I'm sure he's going to be delighted to be racing where team orders won't
>> require him to finish second.
>
> I've asked you already to examples to back up your claim that there
> were times when he wasn't allowed to try to pass Hamilton. Good job I
> didn't try to hold my breath while waiting.

You honestly think there weren't?

How naive.

And late stops for soft tires that would snatch the fastest lap point
away from Verstappen? What about those?

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:19:24 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> snatch

the only one you have experienced
was when your mother
shit you out in the pub toilet

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:19:24 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> You honestly think there weren't?
>
> How naive.

you fucking faggot
piece of shit
cock sucking asshole

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:19:24 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> How naive.

happy new year to you too
you fucking stupid cunt
get covid die

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:19:24 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> You honestly think

you fucking faggot

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 by: Bigbird - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 07:45 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-02 10:52 a.m., XYXPDQ wrote:

> >
> > I suspect he's very relieved to be changing teams.
>
> I'm sure he's going to be delighted to be racing where team orders
> won't require him to finish second.

Mercedes wished.

How often did he finish second...
....or even just behind Lewis

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 by: Martin Harran - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:27 UTC

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 17:19:22 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2022-01-02 2:44 p.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 13:54:48 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-02 10:52 a.m., XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-01-01 4:22 a.m., AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:51:21 -0800, Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2021-12-28 4:47 a.m., AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:08:56 +0000, Martin Harran
>>>>>>>> <martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Mark Jackson
>>>>>>>>> <mjac...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/27/2021 2:10 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 10:55:19 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> What teams and drivers most under performed for the 2021 F1
>>>>>>>>>>>> season?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For drivers it's between Bottas and Perez.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have to give it to Bottas, and Merc clearly agree as they canned
>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> His performance wasn't much changed from previous years, so hardly a
>>>>>>>>>> disappointment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will be interesting to see what he does in his new ride.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I fear not well - he won't have a car that can qualify near the front,
>>>>>>>>>> and making his way forward through traffic hasn't revealed itself as a
>>>>>>>>>> strong point in the past.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had always liked Bottas and thought he had never got the chance to
>>>>>>>>> really show his true ability so I was pleased for him when he got his
>>>>>>>>> chance with Mercedes. He turned out a big disappointment; he is a good
>>>>>>>>> diver but clearly second division, nowhere near the same league as
>>>>>>>>> divers like Hamilton, Verstappen, Vettel, Alonso, Räikkönen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Russell I hope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottas is a fast driver but not a racer. Even when he grows a bit of
>>>>>>>> stubble he's Mr Safety First.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but that's just a bunch of nonsense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottas "not a racer"? Please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He may not be the very best racer on the planet, but he's certainly
>>>>>>> among the very best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd best get on to Toto quick before he cements his mistake.
>>>>> How much do think Bottas WANTS to be at Mercedes?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect he's very relieved to be changing teams.
>>>
>>> I'm sure he's going to be delighted to be racing where team orders won't
>>> require him to finish second.
>>
>> I've asked you already to examples to back up your claim that there
>> were times when he wasn't allowed to try to pass Hamilton. Good job I
>> didn't try to hold my breath while waiting.
>
>You honestly think there weren't?
>
>How naive.

So no examples to back up your claim.

>
>And late stops for soft tires that would snatch the fastest lap point
>away from Verstappen? What about those?

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