Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
> > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
> > > > > > > pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race
> > > > > > > car.'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram
> > > > > > a>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
> > > > > > race fizzle out under a safety car"
> > > > > > Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
> > > > > > radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > >
> > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
> > > >
> > > > Toto?
> > > >
> > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > >
> > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
> > > > claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
> > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
> > > (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
> >
> > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
> > HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
> > non-HamFan here.
> >
>
> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>
> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>
> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
> the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
> championship he's won.
>

You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).

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On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:19:00 PM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

> He had plenty of opportunity to respond to arguments but chose to run
> away instead, He has then raised his head again with the nonsensical
> OP, making invalid claims and has again run away without responding to
> requests that he make his case instead of being mealy mouthed.

lol. get fucking help

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:21:53 PM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
> team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
> performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
> margin).
> --
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> Felicity
> George R
> Irving S
> Texasgate
> Enjoy!

lol

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:19:00 PM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

> Felicity

lol

On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
>>>>>>>> pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race
>>>>>>>> car.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram
>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
>>>>>>> race fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
>>>>>>> radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>
>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
>>>>> claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
>>>> (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
>>>
>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
>>> HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
>>> non-HamFan here.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>
>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>
>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
>> the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
>> championship he's won.
>>
>
> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
> team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
> performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
> margin).
>

Give an example of this.

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:48:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Give an example of this.

Ever heard of the word 'please'?
You fucking stupid ignorant
piece of shit
trolling
cock sucking
cunt

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
> > > > > > > > > perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
> > > > > > > > > via race car.'
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-
> > > > > > > > dram a>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
> > > > > > > > the race fizzle out under a safety car"
> > > > > > > > Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
> > > > > > > > radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
> > > > > > > > that)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Toto?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
> > > > > > claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
> > > > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
> > > > > minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
> > > >
> > > > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
> > > > HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
> > > > non-HamFan here.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
> > >
> > > ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
> > >
> > > I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being
> > > in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
> > > championship he's won.
> > >
> >
> > You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of
> > the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
> > performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
> > margin).
> >
>
> Give an example of this.

If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
commit first.

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On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
>>>>>>>>>> perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
>>>>>>>>>> via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-
>>>>>>>>> dram a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
>>>>>>>>> the race fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
>>>>>>>>> radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
>>>>>>>>> that)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
>>>>>>> claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
>>>>>> minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
>>>>>
>>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
>>>>> HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
>>>>> non-HamFan here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>>
>>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>>
>>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being
>>>> in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
>>>> championship he's won.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of
>>> the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
>>> performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
>>> margin).
>>>
>>
>> Give an example of this.
>
> If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
> any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
> commit first.
>

If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without the song
and dance.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
> > > > > > > > > > > perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling
> > > > > > > > > > > out via race car.'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
> > > > > > > > > > abi- dram a>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
> > > > > > > > > > let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
> > > > > > > > > > Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
> > > > > > > > > > (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
> > > > > > > > > > doubt about that)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Toto?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
> > > > > > > > you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
> > > > > > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
> > > > > > > minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
> > > > > > > argument
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
> > > > > > the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
> > > > > > only non-HamFan here.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
> > > > > being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
> > > > > every championship he's won.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
> > > > of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
> > > > often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
> > > > by quite a margin).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Give an example of this.
> >
> > If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
> > any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
> > commit first.
> >
>
> If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without the
> song and dance.

No, song and dance.

Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.

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On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling
>>>>>>>>>>>> out via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
>>>>>>>>>>> abi- dram a>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
>>>>>>>>>>> let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
>>>>>>>>>>> (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
>>>>>>>>>>> doubt about that)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
>>>>>>>>> you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
>>>>>>>> minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
>>>>>>> the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
>>>>>>> only non-HamFan here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
>>>>>> being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
>>>>>> every championship he's won.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
>>>>> of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
>>>>> often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
>>>>> by quite a margin).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Give an example of this.
>>>
>>> If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
>>> any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
>>> commit first.
>>>
>>
>> If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without the
>> song and dance.
>
> No, song and dance.
>
> Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
>

I asked you for an example.

This is the second time you've replied without giving one.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > race fizzling out via race car.'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > > > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Ab
> > > > > > > > > > > > u-Dh abi- dram a>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured to
> > > > > > > > > > > > "not let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
> > > > > > > > > > > > Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
> > > > > > > > > > > > (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is
> > > > > > > > > > > > no doubt about that)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Toto?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting
> > > > > > > > > > everything you claimed about the culpability of the
> > > > > > > > > > RD, right?
> > > > > > > > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing"
> > > > > > > > > 30 minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost
> > > > > > > > > the argument
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
> > > > > > > > out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems
> > > > > > > > he is the only non-HamFan here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven
> > > > > > > by being in the best car (often by a good margin) in
> > > > > > > pretty much every championship he's won.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You say that as if most people don't recognise the
> > > > > > contribution of the team and car while also failing to
> > > > > > recognise that he has often performed extremely well when
> > > > > > not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Give an example of this.
> > > >
> > > > If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless
> > > > as to any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you
> > > > again but commit first.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without
> > > the song and dance.
> >
> > No, song and dance.
> >
> > Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
> >
>
> I asked you for an example.
>
> This is the second time you've replied without giving one.

I have asked you for your reason for needing one.

This is the umpteenth time you have refused such requests.

Admit being clueless and I'll clue you in as I have done in similar
situations before.

If you are not clueless why would you need an example?

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On 2022-01-20 3:02 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race fizzling out via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Ab
>>>>>>>>>>>>> u-Dh abi- dram a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "not let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no doubt about that)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting
>>>>>>>>>>> everything you claimed about the culpability of the
>>>>>>>>>>> RD, right?
>>>>>>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing"
>>>>>>>>>> 30 minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost
>>>>>>>>>> the argument
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
>>>>>>>>> out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems
>>>>>>>>> he is the only non-HamFan here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven
>>>>>>>> by being in the best car (often by a good margin) in
>>>>>>>> pretty much every championship he's won.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the
>>>>>>> contribution of the team and car while also failing to
>>>>>>> recognise that he has often performed extremely well when
>>>>>>> not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Give an example of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless
>>>>> as to any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you
>>>>> again but commit first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without
>>>> the song and dance.
>>>
>>> No, song and dance.
>>>
>>> Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
>>>
>>
>> I asked you for an example.
>>
>> This is the second time you've replied without giving one.
>
> I have asked you for your reason for needing one.

Because I think you're full of shit.

So produce your example.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-20 3:02 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11,
> > > > > > > > > > alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the race fizzling out via race car.'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-lates
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > t-Ab u-Dh abi- dram a>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to "not let the race fizzle out under a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > safety car" Red bull were doing a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that pressurizing (Horners radio message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was brodcast so there is no doubt about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Toto?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting
> > > > > > > > > > > > everything you claimed about the culpability of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the RD, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another
> > > > > > > > > > > thing" 30 minutes (or in this case days) after he
> > > > > > > > > > > has lost the argument
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
> > > > > > > > > > out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it
> > > > > > > > > > seems he is the only non-HamFan here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just recognize that his success has been hugely
> > > > > > > > > driven by being in the best car (often by a good
> > > > > > > > > margin) in pretty much every championship he's won.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You say that as if most people don't recognise the
> > > > > > > > contribution of the team and car while also failing to
> > > > > > > > recognise that he has often performed extremely well
> > > > > > > > when not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Give an example of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are
> > > > > > clueless as to any such instances then I am happy to make a
> > > > > > fool of you again but commit first.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so
> > > > > without the song and dance.
> > > >
> > > > No, song and dance.
> > > >
> > > > Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I asked you for an example.
> > >
> > > This is the second time you've replied without giving one.
> >
> > I have asked you for your reason for needing one.
>
> Because I think you're full of shit.

Well you could have put in a more gracious manner but okay, you admit
you know so little about the Hamilton/McLaren era and/or don't have the
wit to look for yourself.

>
> So produce your example.

2009 is a pretty good example of being in far from the best car yet
still gaining to wins and out performing his teammate by quite a margin.

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
>>>>>>>>> pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram a>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
>>>>>>>> fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
>>>>>>>> message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed
>>>>>> about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or
>>>>> in this case days) after he has lost the argument
>>>>
>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
>>>> HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>
>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>
>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
>>> the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
>>> championship he's won.
>>>
>>>
>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
>> team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
>> performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
>> margin).
>>
>>
> Give an example of this.

Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with McClaren
after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to dominance. that
must count for something.

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On 2022-01-23 4:15 a.m., alister wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
>>>>>>>>>> pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
>>>>>>>>> fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
>>>>>>>>> message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed
>>>>>>> about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or
>>>>>> in this case days) after he has lost the argument
>>>>>
>>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
>>>>> HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>>
>>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>>
>>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
>>>> the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
>>>> championship he's won.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
>>> team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
>>> performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
>>> margin).
>>>
>>>
>> Give an example of this.
>
> Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with McClaren
> after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to dominance. that
> must count for something.

Again, that would only matter if I'm claiming that Hamilton's success is
ONLY due to the cars he's had...

....and I'm not.

But while he was better than this teammate, Heikki Kovalainen, in 2009
and 2008, it wasn't like he was winning in the McLaren and Kovalainen
wasn't in the points. Saying Hamilton is better than Kovaleinen is NOT
saying that Hamilton is the greatest that ever was.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-23 4:15 a.m., alister wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi
> > > > > > > > > > > was perhaps pressured into stopping the race
> > > > > > > > > > > fizzling out via race car.'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
> > > > > > > > > > Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
> > > > > > > > > > abi-dram a>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
> > > > > > > > > > let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
> > > > > > > > > > Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
> > > > > > > > > > (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
> > > > > > > > > > doubt about that)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Did you read what was in the article?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Toto?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
> > > > > > > > you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
> > > > > > > Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
> > > > > > > minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
> > > > > > > argument
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
> > > > > > the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
> > > > > > only non-HamFan here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
> > > > > being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
> > > > > every championship he's won.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
> > > > of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
> > > > often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
> > > > by quite a margin).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Give an example of this.
> >
> > Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with
> > McClaren after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to
> > dominance. that must count for something.
>
> Again, that would only matter if I'm claiming that Hamilton's success
> is ONLY due to the cars he's had...
>
> ...and I'm not.
>
> But while he was better than this teammate, Heikki Kovalainen, in
> 2009 and 2008, it wasn't like he was winning in the McLaren and
> Kovalainen wasn't in the points. Saying Hamilton is better than
> Kovaleinen is NOT saying that Hamilton is the greatest that ever was.

You do like moving those goalposts, don't you.

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On 2022-01-23 12:54 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-23 4:15 a.m., alister wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi
>>>>>>>>>>>> was perhaps pressured into stopping the race
>>>>>>>>>>>> fizzling out via race car.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> <https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
>>>>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
>>>>>>>>>>> abi-dram a>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
>>>>>>>>>>> let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
>>>>>>>>>>> Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
>>>>>>>>>>> (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
>>>>>>>>>>> doubt about that)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you read what was in the article?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Toto?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
>>>>>>>>> you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
>>>>>>>> Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
>>>>>>>> minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
>>>>>>> the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
>>>>>>> only non-HamFan here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
>>>>>> being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
>>>>>> every championship he's won.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
>>>>> of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
>>>>> often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
>>>>> by quite a margin).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Give an example of this.
>>>
>>> Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with
>>> McClaren after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to
>>> dominance. that must count for something.
>>
>> Again, that would only matter if I'm claiming that Hamilton's success
>> is ONLY due to the cars he's had...
>>
>> ...and I'm not.
>>
>> But while he was better than this teammate, Heikki Kovalainen, in
>> 2009 and 2008, it wasn't like he was winning in the McLaren and
>> Kovalainen wasn't in the points. Saying Hamilton is better than
>> Kovaleinen is NOT saying that Hamilton is the greatest that ever was.
>
> You do like moving those goalposts, don't you.
>

How was the goalpost moved?

The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
mostly driven by him being in the best car.

And that's still true.

On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 2:42:56 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> How was the goalpost moved?

via your trolling

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:

>
> The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
> mostly driven by him being in the best car.
>
> And that's still true.

Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?

A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the best
driver available to them.

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On 2022-01-25 3:21 p.m., alister wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>>
>> The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
>> mostly driven by him being in the best car.
>>
>> And that's still true.
>
> Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
>
> A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the best
> driver available to them.

And that's usually true; almost always.

But:

1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?

2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...

....which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost
exclusively in the very best car out there.

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And that's usually true; almost always.
>
> But:
>
> 1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
> best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
>
> 2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
>
> ...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost
> exclusively in the very best car out there.

you fucking piece of shit

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And that's usually true; almost always.

lol

> 1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
> best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?

lol. what a fucking buffoon

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> as a matter of fact

lol. kill yourself

On 26/01/2022 12:57 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-01-25 3:21 p.m., alister wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
>>> mostly driven by him being in the best car.
>>>
>>> And that's still true.
>>
>> Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
>>
>> A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the best
>> driver available to them.
>
> And that's usually true; almost always.
>
> But:
>
> 1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
> best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
>
> 2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
>
> ...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost
> exclusively in the very best car out there.

Or by being chosen to be in the best car out there. I wonder why.

geoff

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-01-25 3:21 p.m., alister wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has
> > > been mostly driven by him being in the best car.
> > >
> > > And that's still true.
> >
> > Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
> >
> > A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the
> > best driver available to them.
>
> And that's usually true; almost always.
>
> But:
>
> 1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING
> the best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
>
> 2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
>
> ...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost
> exclusively in the very best car out there.

Still moving those goal posts I see.

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