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* Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage DrawWerner Pichler
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Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw

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Subject: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw
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 by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:15 UTC

Group A

FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500

Group B

Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
PSV (NED) 43.000
RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

Group C

SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
SC Braga (POR) 44.000
1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000

Group D

SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000

Group E

Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000

Group F

Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914

Group G

Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500

Group H

FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
FC Porto (POR) 81.000
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000

Ciao,
Werner

Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw

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Subject: Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw
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 by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:21 UTC

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:15:34 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> Group A
>
> FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
> Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
> FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
> Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500

Bayern, Man United
Gala -> EL

> Group B
>
> Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
> Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
> PSV (NED) 43.000
> RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

The Europa League winners from Pot 1 and the lowest-ranked teams from both Pot 2 and Pot 4 makes for an even group.
Arsenal, PSV
Sevilla off to win the Europa League.

>
> Group C
>
> SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
> Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
> SC Braga (POR) 44.000
> 1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000

Real Madrid, Napoli
Union -> EL

> Group D
>
> SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
> FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
> FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
> Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000

Phew. Should at least be entertaining. Roger Schmidt knows Salzburg.

Inter, Benfica
Real Sociedad -> EL

>
> Group E
>
> Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
> Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
> SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
> Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000

Atlético, Feyenoord
Lazio -> EL

>
> Group F
>
> Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
> BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
> AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
> Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914

Group of Death

Newcastle, PSG
Milan -> EL

>
> Group G
>
> Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
> RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
> FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
> BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500

Man City, Leipzig
CZ vs YB will be a direct UEFA coefficient fight. YB -> EL

> Group H
>
> FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
> FC Porto (POR) 81.000
> FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
> Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000

Barcelona, Porto
Antwerp -> EL

Ciao,
Werner

Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw

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Subject: Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:06 UTC

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:21:39 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:15:34 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > Group A
> >
> > FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
> > Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
> > FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
> > Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500
> Bayern, Man United
> Gala -> EL

Bayern and ManU. FCK to the EL

> > Group B
> >
> > Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
> > Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
> > PSV (NED) 43.000
> > RC Lens (FRA) 12.232
> The Europa League winners from Pot 1 and the lowest-ranked teams from both Pot 2 and Pot 4 makes for an even group.
> Arsenal, PSV
> Sevilla off to win the Europa League.

Aren't Sevilla having another horror start to the season? Maybe they will miss their target?

Arsenal and Lens
PSV to EL

> > Group C
> >
> > SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
> > Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
> > SC Braga (POR) 44.000
> > 1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000
> Real Madrid, Napoli
> Union -> EL

sounds about right

> > Group D
> >
> > SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
> > FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
> > FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
> > Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000
> Phew. Should at least be entertaining. Roger Schmidt knows Salzburg.
> Inter, Benfica
> Real Sociedad -> EL

Inter and Benfica.
Let's say Salzburg.


> > Group E
> >
> > Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
> > Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
> > SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
> > Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000
> Atlético, Feyenoord
> Lazio -> EL

Lazio is another team that has had a bad start, but they should be ahead of Celtic. Same predictions as you

> > Group F
> >
> > Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
> > BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
> > AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
> > Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914
> Group of Death

Yup.

> Newcastle, PSG
> Milan -> EL

Not the same predictions. Dortmund and Milan, PSG to the EL

> > Group G
> >
> > Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
> > RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
> > FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
> > BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500
> Man City, Leipzig
> CZ vs YB will be a direct UEFA coefficient fight. YB -> EL

Same as you.

> > Group H
> >
> > FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
> > FC Porto (POR) 81.000
> > FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
> > Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000
> Barcelona, Porto
> Antwerp -> EL

Sounds about right.

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Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw

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Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>Group B
>
>Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
>Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
>PSV (NED) 43.000
>RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

Isn't the Europa League draw tomorrow?

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