European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:

Here are the rules, copied from last year:

- Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no
fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of
your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2
points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula
1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
Tuesday, September 6).

Additional rules:

- You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the club of
both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off their match
yet.

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team rules.. If a
player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be selected by
managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible. Example: Kemar Roofe
in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and Jamaica. Since then he has
declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).

Last year's final standings:
TotGoals TotPoints
Vikings 30 64.5
Waka-Waka 28 62.16
Söldner 24 49.33
Armata 23 44.83
Bloc 17 32.33
Tugas 14 31
Bungs 19 30.5
Wonderland 16 26.83
Waffles/Windmills 14 20.16
Rockers 11 13.33
Thistle 6 9

I will go again with the Armata Brancaleone and the Waka-Waka, who are determined not to fall short this year

*Very* preliminary lineups:
Armata
DF: Di Lorenzo, Dimarco, Biraghi
MF: Lo. Pellegrini, Zaccagni, Barella, Zaniolo, Frattesi
FW: Immobile(c), Belotti, Scamacca, Politano

:-(

Wakas
TBD, but Boniface and Osimhen are going to be in

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:49:28 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Wakas
> TBD, but Boniface and Osimhen are going to be in

Very preliminary Wakas:
DF: Tapsoba (BUR, Bayer Leverkusen), Mbemba (DRC, Marseille), Ndicka (CIV, Roma)
MF: Kudus (GHA, West Ham), Anguissa (CMR, Napoli), Kanga (GAB, Red Star Belgrade), Haidara(MLI, RBL)
FW: Osimhen (NGA, Napoli), Boniface (NGA, Leverkusen), Haller (CIV, Dortmund), Orban (NGA, Gent), Ismaila Sarr (Senegal, Marseille)

Some of these are placeholders, as I get more info on who is likely to start.

> European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:

Lots of squad lists missing from the UEFA site, though I only had to
change one search criteria on the script that pulls the data.

Those available are live here
https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt/2024/
to be updated later:

Still need to enter the list of matches (not fully automated yet) so the
next game column gets populated.

-- HASM

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:
> > European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:
> Lots of squad lists missing from the UEFA site, though I only had to
> change one search criteria on the script that pulls the data.
>
> Those available are live here
> https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt/2024/
> to be updated later:
>
> Still need to enter the list of matches (not fully automated yet) so the
> next game column gets populated.

This is great, thanks!

fm> This is great, thanks!

As long as they don't change their templating engine too much from year
to year this is relatively easy™ to set up.

Need to automate the scraping of the match pages to make it completely
painless.

hasm> Still need to enter the list of matches

All in, semi-manually.

hasm> https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt/2024/

All teams seem to be in.

If the scraping was done correctly, there is a total of 2762 players
from 110 countries in the database. List of players per country,
ordered from country with the most to the least number of players below
(better viewed with a fixed point font).

-- HASM

210 NETHERLANDS
188 FRANCE
173 SPAIN
129 ENGLAND
129 GERMANY
128 BELGIUM
101 PORTUGAL
95 ITALY
88 CZECH REPUBLIC
86 SERBIA
81 BRAZIL
74 NORWAY
72 DENMARK
64 SWITZERLAND
61 CROATIA
60 TURKEY
52 UKRAINE
51 SWEDEN
50 ISRAEL
49 GREECE
48 AUSTRIA
45 ARGENTINA
41 SLOVAKIA
39 POLAND
32 ICELAND
31 NIGERIA
28 FINLAND
25 GHANA
25 KAZAKSTAN
24 SCOTLAND
24 SLOVENIA
23 HUNGARY
22 BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
22 KOSOVO
21 JAPAN
18 FAROE ISLANDS
18 IVORY COST
16 COLOMBIA
15 CAMEROON
15 USA
14 ALBANIA
14 MAROCCO
13 SENEGAL
12 AZERBAIJAN
12 ECUADOR
10 BULGARIA
10 GEORGIA
10 URUGUAY
9 IRELAND
9 MONTENEGRO
8 MALI
8 MEXICO
7 CANADA
7 GAMBIA
7 MOLDOVA
7 SOUTH KOREA
6 ALGERIA
6 BURKINA FASO
6 CYPRUS
6 DR CONGO
6 GUINEA
6 RUSSIA
5 IRAN
5 NORTH MACEDONIA
5 PANAMA
4 ARMENIA
4 CAPE VERDE ISLANDS
4 GABON
3 CHILE
3 GUINEA-BISSAU
3 JAMAICA
3 NORTHERN IRELAND
3 ROMANIA
3 TUNISIA
3 WALES
3 ZAMBIA
2 ANGOLA
2 AUSTRALIA
2 COSTA RICA
2 EGYPT
2 LIBERIA
2 MOZAMBIQUE
2 SOUTH AFRICA
2 SURINAM
2 TANZANIA
2 TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
2 VENEZUELA
1 ANDORRA
1 BELARUS
1 BENIN
1 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
1 COMOROS
1 EQUATORIAL GUINEA
1 ESTONIA
1 HAITI
1 HONDURAS
1 LATVIA
1 LIBYA
1 LITHUANIA
1 LUXEMBURG
1 MADAGASCAR
1 NEW ZEALAND
1 NIGER
1 PARAGUAY
1 PERU
1 SIERRA LEONE
1 TOGO
1 UGANDA
1 UZBEKISTAN
1 ZIMBAWE

Em segunda-feira, 11 de setembro de 2023 às 07:49:28 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:

JOGO APRESENTÁVEL:

Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

On 2023-09-11 04:49, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:
>
> Here are the rules, copied from last year:
>
> - Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
> national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no
> fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of
> your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2
> points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula
> 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.
>
> Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> Tuesday, September 6).
>
> Additional rules:
>
> - You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the club of
> both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off their match
> yet.
>
> - Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team rules. If a

I would like to enter The Waffles (Benelux) and Armada (Spanish) again
if nobody else is desperate to do these teams.

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:54:43 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

> I would like to enter The Waffles (Benelux) and Armada (Spanish) again
> if nobody else is desperate to do these teams.

You are welcome to have both, but can you choose a different name for the Spaniards? We already have the Italian Armata Brancaleone. What happened to the Midgets with Singed Beards?

On 2023-09-14 06:13, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:54:43 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>
>> I would like to enter The Waffles (Benelux) and Armada (Spanish) again
>> if nobody else is desperate to do these teams.
>
> You are welcome to have both, but can you choose a different name for the Spaniards? We already have the Italian Armata Brancaleone. What happened to the Midgets with Singed Beards?

Because there are some strapping lads in the Spain team now, and anyway
I am not sure too many RSSers remember Benny's dismissive comment about
generic (was it?) midgets in Spain's midfield. Just about the time Spain
and Barca started winning everything, I think.

I will try to to think of another name. Maybe Siglo de Oro ? The 21st
century has after all been a bit of a golden age for Spain and Spanish
teams. 2 Euros and a nations' league, 1 WC, 11 Champions' leagues, 12
UEFA Cups/Europa Leagues, plus substantial involvement in CL wins by
clubs in other countries (eg. Alonso, Luis Garcia, Azpilicueta, Rodri,
Thiago, Javi Martinez, Mata.

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:49:28 a.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:
>
> Here are the rules, copied from last year:
>
> - Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
> national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no
> fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of
> your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2
> points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula
> 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.
>
> Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> Tuesday, September 6).
>
> Additional rules:
>
> - You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the club of
> both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off their match
> yet.
>
> - Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team rules. If a
> player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be selected by
> managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible. Example: Kemar Roofe
> in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and Jamaica. Since then he has
> declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).
>
> Last year's final standings:
> TotGoals TotPoints
> Vikings 30 64.5
> Waka-Waka 28 62.16
> Söldner 24 49.33
> Armata 23 44.83
> Bloc 17 32.33
> Tugas 14 31
> Bungs 19 30.5
> Wonderland 16 26.83
> Waffles/Windmills 14 20.16
> Rockers 11 13.33
> Thistle 6 9
>

The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?) Or maybe a Austro Hungarian team would be more fun and more productive. I mean come on, Gregoritsch is the hottest striker in football!

>
> I will go again with the Armata Brancaleone and the Waka-Waka, who are determined not to fall short this year
>
> *Very* preliminary lineups:
> Armata
> DF: Di Lorenzo, Dimarco, Biraghi
> MF: Lo. Pellegrini, Zaccagni, Barella, Zaniolo, Frattesi
> FW: Immobile(c), Belotti, Scamacca, Politano
>
> :-(
>
> Wakas
> TBD, but Boniface and Osimhen are going to be in

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 2:40:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

> The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?) Or maybe a Austro Hungarian team would be more fun and more productive. I mean come on, Gregoritsch is the hottest striker in football!
> >

If I'm reading my historical maps correctly, an Austro-Hungarian team would get to have all of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic and Slovakia; and parts of Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Ukraine and Poland.

A team consisting of the former group would be an interesting choice, and potentially a contender for the UtN crown. But you would have to see if Werner is willing to give up the Austrian half of his Alpine Wonderland...

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 9:11:31 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 2:40:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>
> > The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?) Or maybe a Austro Hungarian team would be more fun and more productive. I mean come on, Gregoritsch is the hottest striker in football!
> > >
> If I'm reading my historical maps correctly, an Austro-Hungarian team would get to have all of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic and Slovakia; and parts of Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Ukraine and Poland.
>
> A team consisting of the former group would be an interesting choice, and potentially a contender for the UtN crown. But you would have to see if Werner is willing to give up the Austrian half of his Alpine Wonderland...

Both the Brexit Bungs and the Alpine Wonderland have grown on me.

Ciao,
Werner

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:42:52 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 9:11:31 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 2:40:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >
> > > The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?) Or maybe a Austro Hungarian team would be more fun and more productive. I mean come on, Gregoritsch is the hottest striker in football!
> > > >
> > If I'm reading my historical maps correctly, an Austro-Hungarian team would get to have all of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic and Slovakia; and parts of Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Ukraine and Poland.
> >
> > A team consisting of the former group would be an interesting choice, and potentially a contender for the UtN crown. But you would have to see if Werner is willing to give up the Austrian half of his Alpine Wonderland...
> Both the Brexit Bungs and the Alpine Wonderland have grown on me.
>
Yeah, that's what I thought. Binder could still take Hungary + the other countries included entirely in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, *excluding* Austria. The Orphaned Dual Monarchs, or something like that...

On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 20:40:15 UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:49:28 a.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> > Tuesday, September 6).

I wanted to to the Vikings again, but the rules says I'm late.

> The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?)

They used to be Merkel's Midfielders, which seemed fitting. But then politics got in the way and I had to come up with something starting with an S. For this year I've considered Flick's Failures, which again is fitting. But maybe just shorten it to Flickers?

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 4:52:26 AM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 20:40:15 UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:49:28 a.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > >
> > > Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> > > Tuesday, September 6).
> I wanted to to the Vikings again, but the rules says I'm late.

Because of the exceptional circumstances, we will allow post-September 6 submissions

> > The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?)
> They used to be Merkel's Midfielders, which seemed fitting. But then politics got in the way and I had to come up with something starting with an S. For this year I've considered Flick's Failures, which again is fitting. But maybe just shorten it to Flickers?

Both the Vikings and the Flickers are welcome.

On 2023-09-11 04:49, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:
>
> Here are the rules, copied from last year:
>
> - Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
> national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no
> fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of
> your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2
> points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula
> 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.
>
> Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> Tuesday, September 6).
>

What were these two early games ? Can't find them. Also your post was
date September 11, so I assume the September 6 is a hangover from last
year.

> Additional rules:
>
> - You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the club of
> both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off their match
> yet.
>
> - Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team rules. If a
> player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be selected by
> managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible. Example: Kemar Roofe
> in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and Jamaica. Since then he has
> declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).
>
> Last year's final standings:
> TotGoals TotPoints
> Vikings 30 64.5
> Waka-Waka 28 62.16
> Söldner 24 49.33
> Armata 23 44.83
> Bloc 17 32.33
> Tugas 14 31
> Bungs 19 30.5
> Wonderland 16 26.83
> Waffles/Windmills 14 20.16
> Rockers 11 13.33
> Thistle 6 9
>
>
> I will go again with the Armata Brancaleone and the Waka-Waka, who are determined not to fall short this year
>
> *Very* preliminary lineups:
> Armata
> DF: Di Lorenzo, Dimarco, Biraghi
> MF: Lo. Pellegrini, Zaccagni, Barella, Zaniolo, Frattesi
> FW: Immobile(c), Belotti, Scamacca, Politano
>
> :-(
>
> Wakas
> TBD, but Boniface and Osimhen are going to be in
>

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 2:00:40 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

> > Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> > Tuesday, September 6).
> >
> What were these two early games ? Can't find them. Also your post was
> date September 11, so I assume the September 6 is a hangover from last
> year.

I think that was just a careless cut and paste from last year's announcement.

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:40 PM UTC+2, MH wrote:
> On 2023-09-11 04:49, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > European Cups group stage starts next week, time to start thinking of your Use the NT teams:
> >
> > Here are the rules, copied from last year:
> >
> > - Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
> > national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no
> > fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of
> > your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2
> > points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula
> > 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.
> >
> > Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
> > Tuesday, September 6).
> >
> What were these two early games ? Can't find them. Also your post was
> date September 11, so I assume the September 6 is a hangover from last
> year.

Last year there's been some tournament or other in December that made everything start a week earlier.

Bungs and Wonderland are officially in, preliminary line-ups will follow later.

Ciao,
Werner

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:19:30 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:42:52 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 9:11:31 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 2:40:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Masochist in me is willing to make a German team (why are the called Soldner?) Or maybe a Austro Hungarian team would be more fun and more productive. I mean come on, Gregoritsch is the hottest striker in football!
> > > > >
> > > If I'm reading my historical maps correctly, an Austro-Hungarian team would get to have all of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic and Slovakia; and parts of Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Ukraine and Poland.
> > >
> > > A team consisting of the former group would be an interesting choice, and potentially a contender for the UtN crown. But you would have to see if Werner is willing to give up the Austrian half of his Alpine Wonderland....
> > Both the Brexit Bungs and the Alpine Wonderland have grown on me.
> >
> Yeah, that's what I thought. Binder could still take Hungary + the other countries included entirely in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, *excluding* Austria. The
> Orphaned Dual Monarchs, or something like that...

That would be 'Transleithania'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lands_of_the_Crown_of_Saint_Stephen

which consisted of the entirety of today's Hungary and Slovakia, Transylvania and Banat (plus adjacent territories) in Romania, Croatia minus Dalmatia, Serbia's
Vojvodina region, a small part of Ukraine around Uzhhorod, and Burgenland, the easternmost of Austria's provinces (but I think that would only yield Union Berlin's
Christopher Trimmel). Bosnia-Herzegovina wasn't officially part of either half of the monarchy.

Ciao,
Werner