Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):

"The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."

FWIW
DLM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60418716

On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>
> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>
> FWIW
> DLM

Called it.

Of course he'll be given another position...

....or else he has no reason to keep his mouth shut.

On 2/17/2022 11:08 AM, D Munz wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60418716

Out with a bone saw?

On 2/17/22 17:08, D Munz wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60418716

That means that no both Ham and Max have a WC that they didn't deserve.

Justice after all. :-)

Bring it on guys!

Edmund

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
> > Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
> >
> > "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
> > Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
> > offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
> > accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
> > good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
> > that a change would be a good thing."
> >
> > FWIW
> > DLM
>
> Called it.
>

Sure you did. LOL!

"What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
him)?"

--
Bozo bin
Felicity
George R
Irving S
Texasgate
Enjoy!

On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>
>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>
>>> FWIW
>>> DLM
>>
>> Called it.
>>
>
> Sure you did. LOL!
>
> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
> him)?"

"He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
> > > > Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
> > > >
> > > > "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
> > > > Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
> > > > will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
> > > > wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
> > > > This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
> > > > Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
> > > >
> > > > FWIW
> > > > DLM
> > >
> > > Called it.
> > >
> >
> > Sure you did. LOL!
> >
> > "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
> > him)?"
>
> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"

Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.

On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>
>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW
>>>>> DLM
>>>>
>>>> Called it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>
>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>> him)?"
>>
>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>
> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>
>

'or possibly "promote" him'...

....or could you just not read those words?

Let's sum up:

Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.

The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.

Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no chance
that YOU can read between the lines...

....but I bet there are those that can.

Tell me:

When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...

....do they typically offer that person a different position in the company?

Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
> > > > > > Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
> > > > > > Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says
> > > > > > Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the
> > > > > > Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer
> > > > > > remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the
> > > > > > federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change
> > > > > > would be a good thing."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW
> > > > > > DLM
> > > > >
> > > > > Called it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure you did. LOL!
> > > >
> > > > "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly
> > > > "promote"
> >>> him)?"
> > >
> > > "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
> >
> > Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
> >
> >
>
> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>

He has not been promoted.

> ...or could you just not read those words?
>
> Let's sum up:
>
> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>

Wrong. Masi has been sacked from the role as F1 Race Director. He has
been replaced.

He currently has no role within the FIA. So he has not been promoted
out of the role... for doing such a good job in Abu Dhabi.

So it's clear to anyone that the FIA are not standing behind him
supporting his actions in Abu Dhabi.

You called it wrong then and you continue to call it wrong now.

On 2022-02-17 10:49 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says
>>>>>>> Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the
>>>>>>> Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer
>>>>>>> remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the
>>>>>>> federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change
>>>>>>> would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly
>>>>> "promote"
>>>>> him)?"
>>>>
>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>
>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>
>
> He has not been promoted.

Really?

You think he's going to be demoted, do you?

What's your prediction, sunshine?

>
>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>
>> Let's sum up:
>>
>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>>
>
> Wrong. Masi has been sacked from the role as F1 Race Director. He has
> been replaced.

Nope. Simply, factually, incorrect.

>
> He currently has no role within the FIA. So he has not been promoted
> out of the role... for doing such a good job in Abu Dhabi.
>
> So it's clear to anyone that the FIA are not standing behind him
> supporting his actions in Abu Dhabi.

"Scapegoat": look it up.

>
> You called it wrong then and you continue to call it wrong now.

On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>
>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>
>>>> FWIW
>>>> DLM
>>>
>>> Called it.
>>>
>>
>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>
>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>   him)?"
>
> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"

Well somebody has to sweep the floor.

geoff

On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>
>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>
>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>   him)?"
>>>
>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>
>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>
>>
>
> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>
> ...or could you just not read those words?
>
> Let's sum up:
>
> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>
> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>
> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no chance
> that YOU can read between the lines...
>
> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>
> Tell me:
>
> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>
> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the company?
>
> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?

Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.

geoff

On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>
> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>
> FWIW
> DLM

Was inevitable.

geoff

On 2022-02-17 12:15 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>
>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW
>>>>> DLM
>>>>
>>>> Called it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>
>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>   him)?"
>>
>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>
>
> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>
> geoff

You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.

On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>
>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be offered
>> another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept whatever
>> role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for
>> the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a
>> good thing."
>>
>> FWIW
>> DLM
>
> Was inevitable.

Yup.

The FIA needed a scapegoat.

Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?

On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>
>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>
>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>
>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>
>> Let's sum up:
>>
>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>>
>> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>>
>> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no
>> chance that YOU can read between the lines...
>>
>> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>>
>> Tell me:
>>
>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>
>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>> company?
>>
>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>
> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>
> geoff
>

Show an example of it being used in that manner.

You've got the entire internet to choose from.

On 2/17/2022 3:15 PM, geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>
>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW
>>>>> DLM
>>>>
>>>> Called it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>
>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>   him)?"
>>
>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>
>
> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>
> geoff

.... after using the bone saw.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 12:47:06 -0800, Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben
>>>>>>>> Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW DLM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>
>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>>
>>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>>
>>> Let's sum up:
>>>
>>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>>>
>>> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>>>
>>> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no
>>> chance that YOU can read between the lines...
>>>
>>> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>>>
>>> Tell me:
>>>
>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>
>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>> company?
>>>
>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>
>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>
>> geoff
>>
>>
> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>
> You've got the entire internet to choose from.

As everyone knows any possition he is offered is simply a sweetener to
prevent any protest on his part after removal (probably a better word than
sacked in this case but the implication is the same you are just being a
pedantic twat playing with words as normal)

--
The world has many unintentionally cruel mechanisms that are not
designed for people who walk on their hands.
-- John Irving, "The World According to Garp"

On 2022-02-17 1:04 p.m., alister wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 12:47:06 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben
>>>>>>>>> Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW DLM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>>>
>>>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>>>
>>>> Let's sum up:
>>>>
>>>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA position.
>>>>
>>>> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>>>>
>>>> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no
>>>> chance that YOU can read between the lines...
>>>>
>>>> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>>>>
>>>> Tell me:
>>>>
>>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>>
>>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>>> company?
>>>>
>>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>>
>>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>>
>>> geoff
>>>
>>>
>> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>>
>> You've got the entire internet to choose from.
>
> As everyone knows any possition he is offered is simply a sweetener to
> prevent any protest on his part after removal (probably a better word than
> sacked in this case but the implication is the same you are just being a
> pedantic twat playing with words as normal)

Nope.

I'm making the very salient point that if Masi acted solely on his own,
they could have actually sacked him, and nothing he could say would matter.

It's clear from the fact that they aren't disclosing what the inquiry
found that there are things they don't want to reveal, and from the fact
that they're offering Masi another position, it's clear he's being
incented not to relate what he knows on the matter.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:46:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"

are you logging in again as rtr?

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 12:58:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> "Scapegoat": look it up.

are you logging in again as rtr?

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:39:36 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.

are you logging in again as rtr?

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:41:40 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?

are you logging in again as rtr?

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:47:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> You've got the entire internet to choose from.

are you logging in again as rtr?