Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-24 11:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-24 10:40 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-24 10:13 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > D Munz wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long
> > > > > > > > > rage, short duration shots but still some interesting
> > > > > > > > > looks.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are
> > > > > > > > > running some kind of flap over the front wheels. It
> > > > > > > > > looks like a plate attached to the shaft on the
> > > > > > > > > inside of the wheel that goes up and bends over top
> > > > > > > > > half of the wheel. Is this some new aero bit in the
> > > > > > > > > rules or is it part of the measuring package? (I know
> > > > > > > > > my description is probably less than useful. Maybe
> > > > > > > > > there is a still image somewhere...)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to
> > > > > > > > the low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates
> > > > > > > > away from the track surface."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
> > > > > > > > (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look
> > > > > > > > like not what they do). I expect they will make
> > > > > > > > pitstops slightly less smooth. They also add to the
> > > > > > > > problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The tires are not even 10% larger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh STFU, you stupid contrary little tart. Your credibility
> > > > > > is below zero with me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Says the guy who just snipped the actual sources I provided to
> > > > > show how little difference the tires make.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You snipped this...
> > >
> > > Snipped what?
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid lying cunt
> > >
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > Agreed
> >
> > :-D
>
> So let's be clear:
>
> You regularly snip my factual rebuttals.
>
> When I do the same thing to you, you whine like a little girl.
>
> Then when you don't like how your own medicine tastes you
> deliberately lie about what I had said...
>
> ...while regularly calling me a liar.
>
> Do I have that correct?
>
> In what particulars is any of it wrong?
>
> Will you have the balls to answer any of it?
>
> :-)

No, you are a liar.

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On 2022-02-24 11:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> D Munz wrote:
>>>
>>>> F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long rage, short
>>>> duration shots but still some interesting looks.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are running some
>>>> kind of flap over the front wheels. It looks like a plate
>>>> attached to the shaft on the inside of the wheel that goes up and
>>>> bends over top half of the wheel. Is this some new aero bit in
>>>> the rules or is it part of the measuring package? (I know my
>>>> description is probably less than useful. Maybe there is a still
>>>> image somewhere...)
>>>>
>>>
>>> "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to the low
>>> pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates away from the track
>>> surface."
>>>
>>> They are also been described as "flow deflectors" (accurately) or
>>> even "mudguards" (for what they look like not what they do).
>>> I expect they will make pitstops slightly less smooth. They also
>>> add to the problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
>>>
>>
>> The tires are not even 10% larger (same widths and less than 10%
>> taller at 660-->720) and neither they nor the "flow deflectors" are
>> in a direction that the driver spends much time looking. (The wheels
>> aren't ever in the driver's view).
>>
>> Most of the deflector is placed where you wouldn't be able to see
>> anyway because immediately behind it from the driver's vantage point
>> because tire and the rear view mirror support struts are already
>> there. There's not a lot left to make any impact at all to the
>> driver's vision.
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJWLDEexDo>
>>
>> Notice how little you see of the tires. When the apex of the corner
>> isn't visible, it is the car's bodywork that obscures it. (Also, it's
>> interesting to see that Alonso clearly turns his head more for left
>> turns than he does for right).
>
> Stupid boy.
>
> The very first apex is part obscured by the tyre. Add 2" and a flow
> deflector and it would be totally obscured.
>
> Hence,
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
>
> Snip all you like you are still just an argumentative, dishonest,
> conceited and intransigent twat.
>

Dude...

How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about racing?

Yes: when the car is nearly at the apex of that very tight turn, a tiny
bit of it does disappear behind the tire... ...as the rest of it
disappears behind the bodywork...

....but the driver isn't LOOKING THERE ANYMORE.

<https://racers360.com/education/vision-on-the-racetrack/>

And coming back to the Alonso video:

Through all of Eau Rouge/Raddilon: all the apexes disappear behind the
body work.

All through Les Combes: same thing.

Bruxelle: same

Turn 11: same

Pouhon: same

And all the rest the same until you get to the chicane before the
start/finish straight...

....when once again some part of the apex disappears behind the tires...

....when the driver is no longer looking at it.

On 2022-02-24 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-24 11:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-24 10:40 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-24 10:13 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long
>>>>>>>>>> rage, short duration shots but still some interesting
>>>>>>>>>> looks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are
>>>>>>>>>> running some kind of flap over the front wheels. It
>>>>>>>>>> looks like a plate attached to the shaft on the
>>>>>>>>>> inside of the wheel that goes up and bends over top
>>>>>>>>>> half of the wheel. Is this some new aero bit in the
>>>>>>>>>> rules or is it part of the measuring package? (I know
>>>>>>>>>> my description is probably less than useful. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>> there is a still image somewhere...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to
>>>>>>>>> the low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates
>>>>>>>>> away from the track surface."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
>>>>>>>>> (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look
>>>>>>>>> like not what they do). I expect they will make
>>>>>>>>> pitstops slightly less smooth. They also add to the
>>>>>>>>> problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The tires are not even 10% larger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh STFU, you stupid contrary little tart. Your credibility
>>>>>>> is below zero with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Says the guy who just snipped the actual sources I provided to
>>>>>> show how little difference the tires make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You snipped this...
>>>>
>>>> Snipped what?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid lying cunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Agreed
>>>
>>> :-D
>>
>> So let's be clear:
>>
>> You regularly snip my factual rebuttals.
>>
>> When I do the same thing to you, you whine like a little girl.
>>
>> Then when you don't like how your own medicine tastes you
>> deliberately lie about what I had said...
>>
>> ...while regularly calling me a liar.
>>
>> Do I have that correct?
>>
>> In what particulars is any of it wrong?
>>
>> Will you have the balls to answer any of it?
>>
>> :-)
>
> No, you are a liar.

So what parts of what I wrote were lies, Liarboy?

On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 12:47:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about racing?

this from an anti passer

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-24 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-24 11:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-24 10:40 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-02-24 10:13 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > D Munz wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly
> > > > > > > > > > > long rage, short duration shots but still some
> > > > > > > > > > > interesting looks.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One thing that stood out to me is that the cars
> > > > > > > > > > > are running some kind of flap over the front
> > > > > > > > > > > wheels. It looks like a plate attached to the
> > > > > > > > > > > shaft on the inside of the wheel that goes up and
> > > > > > > > > > > bends over top half of the wheel. Is this some
> > > > > > > > > > > new aero bit in the rules or is it part of the
> > > > > > > > > > > measuring package? (I know my description is
> > > > > > > > > > > probably less than useful. Maybe there is a still
> > > > > > > > > > > image somewhere...)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to
> > > > > > > > > > the low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates
> > > > > > > > > > away from the track surface."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
> > > > > > > > > > (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look
> > > > > > > > > > like not what they do). I expect they will make
> > > > > > > > > > pitstops slightly less smooth. They also add to the
> > > > > > > > > > problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The tires are not even 10% larger
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh STFU, you stupid contrary little tart. Your
> > > > > > > > credibility is below zero with me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Says the guy who just snipped the actual sources I
> > > > > > > provided to show how little difference the tires make.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You snipped this...
> > > > >
> > > > > Snipped what?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid lying cunt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Agreed
> > > >
> > > > :-D
> > >
> > > So let's be clear:
> > >
> > > You regularly snip my factual rebuttals.
> > >
> > > When I do the same thing to you, you whine like a little girl.
> > >
> > > Then when you don't like how your own medicine tastes you
> > > deliberately lie about what I had said...
> > >
> > > ...while regularly calling me a liar.
> > >
> > > Do I have that correct?
> > >
> > > In what particulars is any of it wrong?
> > >
> > > Will you have the balls to answer any of it?
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > No, you are a liar.
>
> So what parts of what I wrote were lies, Liarboy?

Well for a start I chose not to quote your irrelevant nonsense while
you chose to snip that which proved the unquoted nonsense was nonsense
then attempted to pretend you had not seen it.

Secondly, I simply wrote "you snipped this"... as you regularly
complain when I do not needlessly quote every word of your posts it
seems you are describing your reaction as "whining like a little girl"
as that can hardly be attributed to what I did.

Thirdly, just because a comment contains a single piece of factual data
does not make the comment factual... especially when it has been shown
to be nonsense.

Fourthly, even truly factual comments may not always be relevant to
what someone chooses to discuss.

In short, stop "whining like a little girl" and accept you were wrong.

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Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-24 11:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > D Munz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long rage,
> > > > > short duration shots but still some interesting looks.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are running
> > > > > some kind of flap over the front wheels. It looks like a plate
> > > > > attached to the shaft on the inside of the wheel that goes up
> > > > > and bends over top half of the wheel. Is this some new aero
> > > > > bit in the rules or is it part of the measuring package? (I
> > > > > know my description is probably less than useful. Maybe there
> > > > > is a still image somewhere...)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to the low
> > > > pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates away from the track
> > > > surface."
> > > >
> > > > They are also been described as "flow deflectors" (accurately)
> > > > or even "mudguards" (for what they look like not what they do).
> > > > I expect they will make pitstops slightly less smooth. They also
> > > > add to the problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The tires are not even 10% larger (same widths and less than 10%
> > > taller at 660-->720) and neither they nor the "flow deflectors"
> > > are in a direction that the driver spends much time looking. (The
> > > wheels aren't ever in the driver's view).
> > >
> > > Most of the deflector is placed where you wouldn't be able to see
> > > anyway because immediately behind it from the driver's vantage
> > > point because tire and the rear view mirror support struts are
> > > already there. There's not a lot left to make any impact at all
> > > to the driver's vision.
> > >
> > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJWLDEexDo>
> > >
> > > Notice how little you see of the tires. When the apex of the
> > > corner isn't visible, it is the car's bodywork that obscures it.
> > > (Also, it's interesting to see that Alonso clearly turns his head
> > > more for left turns than he does for right).
> >
> > Stupid boy.
> >
> > The very first apex is part obscured by the tyre. Add 2" and a flow
> > deflector and it would be totally obscured.
> >
> > Hence,
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
> >
> > Snip all you like you are still just an argumentative, dishonest,
> > conceited and intransigent twat.
> >
>
> Dude...
>
> How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about racing?
>

https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs

Whinny little girl, how can you pretend your personal knowledge of
racing gives you special insight when your ignorance is always front
and center.

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On 2022-02-25 1:46 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-24 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-24 11:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-24 10:40 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-24 10:13 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>> long rage, short duration shots but still some
>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting looks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing that stood out to me is that the cars
>>>>>>>>>>>> are running some kind of flap over the front
>>>>>>>>>>>> wheels. It looks like a plate attached to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> shaft on the inside of the wheel that goes up and
>>>>>>>>>>>> bends over top half of the wheel. Is this some
>>>>>>>>>>>> new aero bit in the rules or is it part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> measuring package? (I know my description is
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably less than useful. Maybe there is a still
>>>>>>>>>>>> image somewhere...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to
>>>>>>>>>>> the low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates
>>>>>>>>>>> away from the track surface."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
>>>>>>>>>>> (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look
>>>>>>>>>>> like not what they do). I expect they will make
>>>>>>>>>>> pitstops slightly less smooth. They also add to the
>>>>>>>>>>> problem of vision created by the larger wheels.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The tires are not even 10% larger
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh STFU, you stupid contrary little tart. Your
>>>>>>>>> credibility is below zero with me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just snipped the actual sources I
>>>>>>>> provided to show how little difference the tires make.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You snipped this...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snipped what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid lying cunt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed
>>>>>
>>>>> :-D
>>>>
>>>> So let's be clear:
>>>>
>>>> You regularly snip my factual rebuttals.
>>>>
>>>> When I do the same thing to you, you whine like a little girl.
>>>>
>>>> Then when you don't like how your own medicine tastes you
>>>> deliberately lie about what I had said...
>>>>
>>>> ...while regularly calling me a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Do I have that correct?
>>>>
>>>> In what particulars is any of it wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Will you have the balls to answer any of it?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> No, you are a liar.
>>
>> So what parts of what I wrote were lies, Liarboy?
>
> Well for a start I chose not to quote your irrelevant nonsense while
> you chose to snip that which proved the unquoted nonsense was nonsense
> then attempted to pretend you had not seen it.

What is the difference between "chose not to quote" and "chose to snip"?

And no, it didn't prove anything about what I had provided.

>
> Secondly, I simply wrote "you snipped this"... as you regularly
> complain when I do not needlessly quote every word of your posts it
> seems you are describing your reaction as "whining like a little girl"
> as that can hardly be attributed to what I did.

Ah, the "man" who likes to call people names whines like a little girl
when someone returns the favour.

:-)

>
> Thirdly, just because a comment contains a single piece of factual data
> does not make the comment factual... especially when it has been shown
> to be nonsense.

But that would actual require a rebuttal...

....not just calling it a lie.

>
> Fourthly, even truly factual comments may not always be relevant to
> what someone chooses to discuss.
>
> In short, stop "whining like a little girl" and accept you were wrong.
>

I'm not wrong.

You clearly have very little clue about racing cars, racing drivers...

....basically you're a clueless little fangirl.

On 2022-02-25 1:49 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-24 11:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> D Munz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long rage,
>>>>>> short duration shots but still some interesting looks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are
>>>>>> running some kind of flap over the front wheels. It looks
>>>>>> like a plate attached to the shaft on the inside of the
>>>>>> wheel that goes up and bends over top half of the wheel. Is
>>>>>> this some new aero bit in the rules or is it part of the
>>>>>> measuring package? (I know my description is probably less
>>>>>> than useful. Maybe there is a still image somewhere...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to the low
>>>>> pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates away from the
>>>>> track surface."
>>>>>
>>>>> They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
>>>>> (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look like not
>>>>> what they do). I expect they will make pitstops slightly less
>>>>> smooth. They also add to the problem of vision created by the
>>>>> larger wheels.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The tires are not even 10% larger (same widths and less than
>>>> 10% taller at 660-->720) and neither they nor the "flow
>>>> deflectors" are in a direction that the driver spends much time
>>>> looking. (The wheels aren't ever in the driver's view).
>>>>
>>>> Most of the deflector is placed where you wouldn't be able to
>>>> see anyway because immediately behind it from the driver's
>>>> vantage point because tire and the rear view mirror support
>>>> struts are already there. There's not a lot left to make any
>>>> impact at all to the driver's vision.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJWLDEexDo>
>>>>
>>>> Notice how little you see of the tires. When the apex of the
>>>> corner isn't visible, it is the car's bodywork that obscures
>>>> it. (Also, it's interesting to see that Alonso clearly turns
>>>> his head more for left turns than he does for right).
>>>
>>> Stupid boy.
>>>
>>> The very first apex is part obscured by the tyre. Add 2" and a
>>> flow deflector and it would be totally obscured.
>>>
>>> Hence,
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Snip all you like you are still just an argumentative, dishonest,
>>> conceited and intransigent twat.
>>>
>>
>> Dude...
>>
>> How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
>> racing?
>>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
>
> Whinny little girl, how can you pretend your personal knowledge of
> racing gives you special insight when your ignorance is always front
> and center.

You snipped all of this (for clarity, I put it back, quoted)

>> Yes: when the car is nearly at the apex of that very tight turn, a
>> tiny bit of it does disappear behind the tire... ...as the rest of
>> it disappears behind the bodywork...
>>
>> ...but the driver isn't LOOKING THERE ANYMORE.
>>
>> <https://racers360.com/education/vision-on-the-racetrack/>
>>
>> And coming back to the Alonso video:
>>
>> Through all of Eau Rouge/Raddilon: all the apexes disappear behind
>> the body work.
>>
>> All through Les Combes: same thing.
>>
>> Bruxelle: same
>>
>> Turn 11: same
>>
>> Pouhon: same
>>
>> And all the rest the same until you get to the chicane before the
>> start/finish straight...
>>
>> ...when once again some part of the apex disappears behind the
>> tires...
>>
>> ...when the driver is no longer looking at it.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-25 1:49 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-24 11:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > D Munz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long
> > > > > > > rage, short duration shots but still some interesting
> > > > > > > looks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are
> > > > > > > running some kind of flap over the front wheels. It looks
> > > > > > > like a plate attached to the shaft on the inside of the
> > > > > > > wheel that goes up and bends over top half of the wheel.
> > > > > > > Is this some new aero bit in the rules or is it part of
> > > > > > > the measuring package? (I know my description is probably
> > > > > > > less than useful. Maybe there is a still image
> > > > > > > somewhere...)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to the
> > > > > > low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates away from
> > > > > > the track surface."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
> > > > > > (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look like
> > > > > > not what they do). I expect they will make pitstops
> > > > > > slightly less smooth. They also add to the problem of
> > > > > > vision created by the larger wheels.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The tires are not even 10% larger (same widths and less than
> > > > > 10% taller at 660-->720) and neither they nor the "flow
> > > > > deflectors" are in a direction that the driver spends much
> > > > > time looking. (The wheels aren't ever in the driver's view).
> > > > >
> > > > > Most of the deflector is placed where you wouldn't be able to
> > > > > see anyway because immediately behind it from the driver's
> > > > > vantage point because tire and the rear view mirror support
> > > > > struts are already there. There's not a lot left to make any
> > > > > impact at all to the driver's vision.
> > > > >
> > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJWLDEexDo>
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice how little you see of the tires. When the apex of the
> > > > > corner isn't visible, it is the car's bodywork that obscures
> > > > > it. (Also, it's interesting to see that Alonso clearly turns
> > > > > his head more for left turns than he does for right).
> > > >
> > > > Stupid boy.
> > > >
> > > > The very first apex is part obscured by the tyre. Add 2" and a
> > > > flow deflector and it would be totally obscured.
> > > >
> > > > Hence,
> > > >
https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >>> Snip all you like you are still just an argumentative, dishonest,
> > > > conceited and intransigent twat.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dude...
> > >
> > > How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
> > > racing?
> > >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
> >
> > Whinny little girl, how can you pretend your personal knowledge of
> > racing gives you special insight when your ignorance is always
> > front and center.
>
> You snipped all of this (for clarity, I put it back, quoted)
>
> > > Yes: when the car is nearly at the apex of that very tight turn, a
> > > tiny bit of it does disappear behind the tire... ...as the rest of
> > > it disappears behind the bodywork...
> > >
> > > ...but the driver isn't LOOKING THERE ANYMORE.
> > >
> > > <https://racers360.com/education/vision-on-the-racetrack/>
> > >
> > > And coming back to the Alonso video:
> > >
> > > Through all of Eau Rouge/Raddilon: all the apexes disappear behind
> > > the body work.
> > >
> > > All through Les Combes: same thing.
> > >
> > > Bruxelle: same
> > >
> > > Turn 11: same
> > >
> > > Pouhon: same
> > >
> > > And all the rest the same until you get to the chicane before the
> > > start/finish straight...
> > >
> > > ...when once again some part of the apex disappears behind the
> > > tires...
> > >
> > > ...when the driver is no longer looking at it.

You can stop whining like a little girl. I didn't delete your post
above.

You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.

On 2022-02-25 2:10 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-25 1:49 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-24 11:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-23 11:29 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> F1TV has a short day 1 summary video up. Mostly long
>>>>>>>> rage, short duration shots but still some interesting
>>>>>>>> looks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing that stood out to me is that the cars are
>>>>>>>> running some kind of flap over the front wheels. It looks
>>>>>>>> like a plate attached to the shaft on the inside of the
>>>>>>>> wheel that goes up and bends over top half of the wheel.
>>>>>>>> Is this some new aero bit in the rules or is it part of
>>>>>>>> the measuring package? (I know my description is probably
>>>>>>>> less than useful. Maybe there is a still image
>>>>>>>> somewhere...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The fairing is to try to connect the tyre squirt to the
>>>>>>> low pressure behind the front tyre as it rotates away from
>>>>>>> the track surface."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are also been described as "flow deflectors"
>>>>>>> (accurately) or even "mudguards" (for what they look like
>>>>>>> not what they do). I expect they will make pitstops
>>>>>>> slightly less smooth. They also add to the problem of
>>>>>>> vision created by the larger wheels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tires are not even 10% larger (same widths and less than
>>>>>> 10% taller at 660-->720) and neither they nor the "flow
>>>>>> deflectors" are in a direction that the driver spends much
>>>>>> time looking. (The wheels aren't ever in the driver's view).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the deflector is placed where you wouldn't be able to
>>>>>> see anyway because immediately behind it from the driver's
>>>>>> vantage point because tire and the rear view mirror support
>>>>>> struts are already there. There's not a lot left to make any
>>>>>> impact at all to the driver's vision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJWLDEexDo>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice how little you see of the tires. When the apex of the
>>>>>> corner isn't visible, it is the car's bodywork that obscures
>>>>>> it. (Also, it's interesting to see that Alonso clearly turns
>>>>>> his head more for left turns than he does for right).
>>>>>
>>>>> Stupid boy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The very first apex is part obscured by the tyre. Add 2" and a
>>>>> flow deflector and it would be totally obscured.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence,
>>>>>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snip all you like you are still just an argumentative, dishonest,
>>>>> conceited and intransigent twat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dude...
>>>>
>>>> How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
>>>> racing?
>>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Vettel+can%E2%80%99t+see+the+kerbs
>>>
>>> Whinny little girl, how can you pretend your personal knowledge of
>>> racing gives you special insight when your ignorance is always
>>> front and center.
>>
>> You snipped all of this (for clarity, I put it back, quoted)
>>
>>>> Yes: when the car is nearly at the apex of that very tight turn, a
>>>> tiny bit of it does disappear behind the tire... ...as the rest of
>>>> it disappears behind the bodywork...
>>>>
>>>> ...but the driver isn't LOOKING THERE ANYMORE.
>>>>
>>>> <https://racers360.com/education/vision-on-the-racetrack/>
>>>>
>>>> And coming back to the Alonso video:
>>>>
>>>> Through all of Eau Rouge/Raddilon: all the apexes disappear behind
>>>> the body work.
>>>>
>>>> All through Les Combes: same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Bruxelle: same
>>>>
>>>> Turn 11: same
>>>>
>>>> Pouhon: same
>>>>
>>>> And all the rest the same until you get to the chicane before the
>>>> start/finish straight...
>>>>
>>>> ...when once again some part of the apex disappears behind the
>>>> tires...
>>>>
>>>> ...when the driver is no longer looking at it.
>
> You can stop whining like a little girl. I didn't delete your post
> above.
>
> You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.
>

You're lying, you whiny girl.

You replied to my original post with the text about other corners at Spa
and you removed everything that came after:

"How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about racing?"

Why not actually try and learn a little something from someone who has
actually been on a race track, has won races, has won championships and
who was chosen by the best racers at his club (some with careers
spanning more than 40 years) to be a race driving instructor?

On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 3:44:37 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Why not actually try and learn a little something from someone who has
> actually been on a race track, has won races, has won championships and
> who was chosen by the best racers at his club (some with careers
> spanning more than 40 years) to be a race driving instructor?

Means nothing though,
because you are a fucking goof.

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-25 1:46 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > Well for a start I chose not to quote your irrelevant nonsense while
> > you chose to snip that which proved the unquoted nonsense was
> > nonsense then attempted to pretend you had not seen it.
>
> What is the difference between "chose not to quote" and "chose to
> snip"?
>

Not a lot. Anything else you need help with?

> And no, it didn't prove anything about what I had provided.
>

Then you should read the article again. How can you learn anything
about F1 driving when you aren't willing to listen to what a real
racing driver has to say.

> >
> > Secondly, I simply wrote "you snipped this"... as you regularly
> > complain when I do not needlessly quote every word of your posts it
> > seems you are describing your reaction as "whining like a little
> > girl" as that can hardly be attributed to what I did.
>
> Ah, the "man" who likes to call people names whines like a little
> girl when someone returns the favour.
>

I think we clearly established that the perception of being a "whinny
little girl" came form your own reaction.

Again your poor English comprehension is showing you up.

Unless you'd like to embarrass yourself further by explaining how you
came to make that attribution from "you snipped this..."

:-D

> :-)
>
> >
> > Thirdly, just because a comment contains a single piece of factual
> > data does not make the comment factual... especially when it has
> > been shown to be nonsense.
>
> But that would actual require a rebuttal...
>

Nope.

> ...not just calling it a lie.

I didn't. You are lying again.

>
> >
> > Fourthly, even truly factual comments may not always be relevant to
> > what someone chooses to discuss.
> >
> > In short, stop "whining like a little girl" and accept you were
> > wrong.
> >
>
> I'm not wrong.

I alluded to vision issues, you claimed there were none, I cited an
article where a world champion F1 racing driver disagreed with you.

You were wrong.

>
> You clearly have very little clue about racing cars, racing drivers...

....racing drivers like 4 time F1 World Driver Championship winning
Sebastian Vettel who you claim knows less about the view from his F1
racing car than you do.

>
> ...basically you're a clueless little fangirl.

Oh dear, I think we can see the little girl cry...

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Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-25 2:10 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
>
> You're lying, you whiny girl.
>

No, You are.

> You replied to my original post with the text about other corners at
> Spa and you removed everything that came after:
>

I never denied it.

Try, for once, comprehending before replying; you may look less stupid.

> "How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
> racing?"
>

> Why not actually try and learn a little something from someone who
> has actually been on a race track, has won races, has won
> championships and who was chosen by the best racers at his club (some
> with careers spanning more than 40 years) to be a race driving
> instructor?

If you mean you that would be because you are constantly either talking
nonsense or lying; neither are conducive to learning about a subject.

Why don't you learn something by not being a dishonest, conceited prick.

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On 2022-02-25 4:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-25 2:10 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>
>> You're lying, you whiny girl.
>>
>
> No, You are.
>
>> You replied to my original post with the text about other corners at
>> Spa and you removed everything that came after:
>>
>
> I never denied it.

'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'

>
> Try, for once, comprehending before replying; you may look less stupid.

'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'

>> "How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
>> racing?"
>>
>> Why not actually try and learn a little something from someone who
>> has actually been on a race track, has won races, has won
>> championships and who was chosen by the best racers at his club (some
>> with careers spanning more than 40 years) to be a race driving
>> instructor?
>
> If you mean you that would be because you are constantly either talking
> nonsense or lying; neither are conducive to learning about a subject.
>
> Why don't you learn something by not being a dishonest, conceited prick.

'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-25 4:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-25 2:10 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > You're lying, you whiny girl.
> > >
> >
> > No, You are.
> >
> > > You replied to my original post with the text about other corners
> > > at Spa and you removed everything that came after:
> > >
> >
> > I never denied it.
>
> 'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'
>

True.

> >
> > Try, for once, comprehending before replying; you may look less
> > stupid.
>
> 'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'
>

Still true.

> > > "How can someone be a fan of F1 and understand so little about
> > > racing?"
> > >
> > > Why not actually try and learn a little something from someone who
> > > has actually been on a race track, has won races, has won
> > > championships and who was chosen by the best racers at his club
> > > (some with careers spanning more than 40 years) to be a race
> > > driving instructor?
> >
> > If you mean you that would be because you are constantly either
> > talking nonsense or lying; neither are conducive to learning about
> > a subject.
> >
> > Why don't you learn something by not being a dishonest, conceited
> > prick.
>
> 'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'

...and still true.

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On 2022-02-26 2:02 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-25 4:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-25 2:10 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're lying, you whiny girl.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, You are.
>>>
>>>> You replied to my original post with the text about other corners
>>>> at Spa and you removed everything that came after:
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never denied it.
>>
>> 'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'
>>
>
> True.

Still you lying.

I did put back what you had snipped.

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:03:17 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Still you lying.
>
> I did put back what you had snipped.

you simple fuck

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-26 2:02 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> > > > > You replied to my original post with the text about other
> > > > > corners at Spa and you removed everything that came after:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I never denied it.
> > >
> > > 'You didn't "put anything back" or clarify anything.'
> > >
> >
> > True.
>
> Still you lying.
>
> I did put back what you had snipped.

No, you pointlessly reposted it.

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