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Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk..sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

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 by: News - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 15:11 UTC

On 3/14/2022 11:00 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

Someone, call the decal shop.

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 by: Dan the Man - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 15:22 UTC

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 11:00 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> > Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
> Someone, call the decal shop.
Good thing he's not a soccer player...

Dan

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 by: geoff - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:12 UTC

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:16 UTC

On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:
> On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:
>> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his
>> name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
>> https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
>>
>
> If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
> generations on ...
>
> The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
> affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.
>
> geoff

Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same
format.

The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.

De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.

geoff

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 by: Chad Prion - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 10:18 UTC

Mr Gobrien wrote:
> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
>

or if he were Nordic, he would be Lewis Hamilton Anthonysson, or
sumppfink like dat.

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 by: Matt Larkin - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 12:48 UTC

On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 20:12:25 UTC, geoff wrote:
> On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> > Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
> If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
> generations on ...
>
> The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
> affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.
>
> geoff
I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family name
from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters have taken their
husband's names.

No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a marriage then
having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But double-barrelled names
get lengthy and hybrid names lose their heritage pretty quickly.

Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though :-)

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 by: Dan the Man - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 13:11 UTC

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:
> > On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> >> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his
> >> name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
> >> https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
> >>
> >
> > If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
> > generations on ...
> >
> > The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
> > affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.
> >
> > geoff
> Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same
> format.
>
> The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.
>
> De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.
>
> geoff
Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.

Dan

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 by: Mark Jackson - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:44 UTC

On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:

> I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
> name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
> have taken their husband's names.
>
> No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
> marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But
> double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
> heritage pretty quickly.
>
> Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
> :-)

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
really didn't give a toss.

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 by: Sir Tim - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:33 UTC

Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:
>
>> I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
>> name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
>> have taken their husband's names.
>>
>> No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
>> marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But
>> double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
>> heritage pretty quickly.
>>
>> Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
>> :-)
>
> When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
> sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
> because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
> really didn't give a toss.
>

Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male
children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s.
Would that work?

--
Sir Tim

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 by: geoff - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:58 UTC

On 16/03/2022 2:11 am, Dan the Man wrote:
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>> On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:
>>> On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:
>>>> Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his
>>>> name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
>>>> https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
>>> generations on ...
>>>
>>> The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
>>> affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.
>>>
>>> geoff
>> Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same
>> format.
>>
>> The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.
>>
>> De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.
>>
>> geoff
> Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.
>
> Dan

Yep, that's how it works. The 'de la' bit is a toff affectation if used.

geoff

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 by: Mark Jackson - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 21:28 UTC

On 3/15/2022 3:33 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

>> When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
>> sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
>> because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
>> really didn't give a toss.
>>
>
> Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male
> children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s.
> Would that work?

We actually had decided beforehand that if we had a boy he would have my
last name and hers as a middle name, and the reverse if a girl. We
actually named our first that way but for a number of reasons* decided
to hyphenate instead - which cost us $300 in legal fees.

*When we made the initial decision we were planning on having only one
child. This plan changed over time and by the time we had one we had
decided to have a second (in the end we have three, all boys), and the
prospect of siblings with, potentially, different last names became a
factor in changing our naming plan.

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 by: Calum - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:40 UTC

On 15/03/2022 13:11, Dan the Man wrote:

> Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.

That's always been the custom in Spain. Fernando Alonso's full name is
Fernando Alonso Díaz, and Carlos Sainz is really Carlos Sainz Vázquez de
Castro.

(Legally it used to have to be FirstName FatherSurname MotherSurname,
although nowadays the parents can choose the order of the surnames.)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs>

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 by: Mr Gobrien - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 16:06 UTC

or if he were Nordic, he would be Lewis Hamilton Anthonysson, or
sumppfink like dat.

If he was Icelandic (I don't think the other Scandinavians have the system these days) he would be Lewis Anthonysson - the surname (Hamilton) would've been dropped.

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 by: keithr0 - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 21:53 UTC

On 16/03/2022 5:33 am, Sir Tim wrote:
> Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
>>> name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
>>> have taken their husband's names.
>>>
>>> No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
>>> marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But
>>> double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
>>> heritage pretty quickly.
>>>
>>> Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
>>> :-)
>>
>> When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
>> sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
>> because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
>> really didn't give a toss.
>>
>
> Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male
> children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s.
> Would that work?
>
A couple we knew had two sons, one used his fathers name, the other his
mothers. I don't know whether the boys decided this or it was decided
for them.

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