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 by: texas gate - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 03:38 UTC

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:13:08 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Really?

Ya, fucking really.
You numb cunt.

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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
> best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only my
> third year of racing.

says a lot about your club

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 by: geoff - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 05:29 UTC

On 20/04/2022 2:13 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-04-19 4:40 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
>>>>>>>>>>>> the plot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec
>>>>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
>>>>>>>>>>> that Massi had made errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...don't you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
>>>>>>>> and his defence of Masi's incompetence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failure to answer the the point noted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
>>>>>> getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It really hasn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...why is he still in their employ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
>>>> liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping
>>>> out the toilets.
>>>
>>> When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.
>>>
>>> FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
>>> best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only
>>> my third year of racing.
>>>
>>> That was back in 2016.
>>
>> Ha ha. You  had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not
>> everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.
>
> Really?
>
> You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...
>
> ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?
>
>>
>> Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
>> role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can
>> be done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...
>>
>

Only to get the predictable response from you. It's so easy.

But whatever you do, don't address the logic.

geoff

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 07:20 UTC

On 2022-04-19 10:29 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 20/04/2022 2:13 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-04-19 4:40 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the plot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
>>>>>>>>>>>> that Massi had made errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...don't you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
>>>>>>>>> and his defence of Masi's incompetence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Failure to answer the the point noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. It really hasn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...why is he still in their employ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
>>>>> liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping
>>>>> out the toilets.
>>>>
>>>> When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.
>>>>
>>>> FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions
>>>> and best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after
>>>> only my third year of racing.
>>>>
>>>> That was back in 2016.
>>>
>>> Ha ha. You  had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not
>>> everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...
>>
>> ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?
>>
>>>
>>> Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
>>> role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can
>>> be done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...
>>>
>>
>
>
> Only to get the predictable response from you. It's so easy.
>
> But whatever you do, don't address the logic.

You presented no logic.

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 by: Martin Harran - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:03 UTC

On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> geoff wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>> ers
>>>
>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>> had made errors.
>>>
>>
>> ...and the FIA.
>
>Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>
>...don't you think?

Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?

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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> >> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
> >>
> >> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
> > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
> >
> > Dan
> Serious inquiry?
>
> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?
>
> They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
> glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>
> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try to answer.
1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin color.
2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.
3) And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.

Dan

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:56 UTC

On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> geoff wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>>> ers
>>>>
>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>>> had made errors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...and the FIA.
>>
>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>
>> ...don't you think?
>
> Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
>

Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

get a life

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 by: Martin Harran - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:31 UTC

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:56:08 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>>>> ers
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>>>> had made errors.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>
>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>
>>> ...don't you think?
>>
>> Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
>>
>
>Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

So you haven't found an alternate word.

And yes, in a 30 year career as management consultant, I knew plenty
of managers incompetent in a position who were pushed sideways or
downways to a position where they were perfectly competent and on a
number of occasions I was the one who instigated the change. FWIW, the
vast majority of managers in that situation were very relieved to move
into a role where they felt in control.

You might find it useful to read up on the Peter Principle
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/peter-principle.asp

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:36 UTC

On 2022-04-20 10:31 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:56:08 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>>>>> ers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>>>>> had made errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>>
>>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>>
>>>> ...don't you think?
>>>
>>> Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
>>>
>>
>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
>
>
> So you haven't found an alternate word.

I don't need one.

>
> And yes, in a 30 year career as management consultant, I knew plenty
> of managers incompetent in a position who were pushed sideways or
> downways to a position where they were perfectly competent and on a
> number of occasions I was the one who instigated the change. FWIW, the
> vast majority of managers in that situation were very relieved to move
> into a role where they felt in control.
>

Failure to actually answer the question asked is noted.

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Failure to actually answer the question asked is noted.

get a life

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 by: geoff - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 21:20 UTC

On 21/04/2022 4:56 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>>>> ers
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>>>> had made errors.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>
>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>
>>> ...don't you think?
>>
>> Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
>>
>
> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

'Sacked' is the word you appear adamant to used exclusively for the
situation. Reassigned better ?

But even with 'sacked', it can apply to from a whole
company/organisation, or just to a particular position within that company.

..... yet another straightforward concept that you appear to have trouble
comprehending.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 21:22 UTC

On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
>
>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
>
> get a life

He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

geoff

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:15 UTC

On 2022-04-20 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 4:56 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> geoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>>>>>> ers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>>>>>> had made errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and the FIA.
>>>>
>>>> Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...
>>>>
>>>> ...don't you think?
>>>
>>> Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
>>>
>>
>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
>
> 'Sacked' is the word you appear adamant to used exclusively for the
> situation. Reassigned better ?

I'm not adamant about it at all.

Lots of others here were depending on it as proof (or at least support)
of Masi's supposed "incompetence".

>
> But even with 'sacked', it can apply to from a whole
> company/organisation, or just to a particular position within that company.
>
> .... yet another straightforward concept that you appear to have trouble
> comprehending.

So everyone keeps saying...

...but never actually supporting.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:17 UTC

On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
>>
>> get a life
>
> He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

And actually racing open wheel...

....and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
my class)...

....and hockey...

....and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

....skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

....sailor (former world championship competitor)...

I manage to keep busy.

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 by: texas gate - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:19 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And actually racing open wheel...
>
> ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
> my class)...
>
> ...and hockey...
>
> ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...
>
> ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...
>
> ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...
>
> I manage to keep busy.

lol

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 by: texas gate - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:19 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:15:11 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> So everyone keeps saying...
>
> ..but never actually supporting.

fuck off

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 by: texas gate - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:22 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And actually racing open wheel...
>
> ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
> my class)...
>
> ...and hockey...
>
> ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...
>
> ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...
>
> ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...
>
> I manage to keep busy.

still a deluxe piece of shit

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And actually racing open wheel...
>
> ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
> my class)...
>
> ...and hockey...
>
> ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...
>
> ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...
>
> ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...
>
> I manage to keep busy.

go to the cupboard and get a hero cookie

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 by: geoff - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:18 UTC

On 21/04/2022 10:17 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
>>>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
>>>
>>> get a life
>>
>> He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.
>
> And actually racing open wheel...
>
> ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
> my class)...
>
> ...and hockey...
>
> ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...
>
> ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...
>
> ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...
>
> I manage to keep busy.

Must try harder.

geoff

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 by: Phil Carmody - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 11:11 UTC

"Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> writes:
> geoff wrote:
>> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
>> > While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.
>> >
>> > https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>> > wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>> > ers
>>
>> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
>> had made errors.
>
> ...and the FIA.

Naaaaah, they only said that mistakes were made, and they were human
errors. At no point did they name the person who was responsible for
those errors. The fact that you're extrapolating from that to deduce
it was the human who was responsible for such decision-making as his
"one job" who was actually responsible for the decisions that were
made shows your intrinsic anti-FIA bias!

Perhaps some eastern philosophy has been adopted - you must not bring
shame upon someone in a superior position?

Phil
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 by: JP - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 17:18 UTC

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 3:18:44 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 10:17 am, Alan wrote:
> > On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
> >> On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
> >>>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
> >>>
> >>> get a life
> >>
> >> He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.
> >
> > And actually racing open wheel...
> >
> > ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
> > my class)...
> >
> > ...and hockey...
> >
> > ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...
> >
> > ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...
> >
> > ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...
> >
> > I manage to keep busy.
> Must try harder.
>
> geoff

Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?

John

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 by: Paul Babiak - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 17:21 UTC

On 04/21/2022 01:18 PM, JP wrote:

>
> Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?
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> John
>

+1

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 by: Geoff May - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:32 UTC

On 21/04/2022 18:18, JP wrote:
> [snipped]
>
> Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?
>
> John

+2

Cheers

Geoff

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 by: Mark Jackson - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:02 UTC

On 4/21/2022 2:32 PM, Geoff May wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 18:18, JP wrote:
>> [snipped]
>>
>> Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the
>> heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure
>> from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time.
>> How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one
>> ever responded to him?
>>
>> John
>
> +2

+3

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