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 by: texas gate - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 20:14 UTC

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:18:43 AM UTC-6, JP wrote:

> Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?

Yup. Check out his behavior at rec.sport.golf.
It's the same as here. A troll.
Bigbird is there too.

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:15 UTC

Phil Carmody wrote:

> "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> writes:
> > geoff wrote:
> >> On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
> >> > While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
> plot. >> >
> >> >
> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
> >> >
> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
> >> > ers >> >> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had
> agreed that Massi >> had made errors.
> >
> > ...and the FIA.
>
> Naaaaah, they only said that mistakes were made, and they were human
> errors. At no point did they name the person who was responsible for
> those errors. The fact that you're extrapolating from that to deduce
> it was the human who was responsible for such decision-making as his
> "one job" who was actually responsible for the decisions that were
> made shows your intrinsic anti-FIA bias!
>
> Perhaps some eastern philosophy has been adopted - you must not bring
> shame upon someone in a superior position?
>

Silly me. :)

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:29 UTC

Dan the Man wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder
> wrote:
> > On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> > >> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
> > plot. >>
> > >>
> >
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
> > > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
> > > absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > Serious inquiry?
> >
> > Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?
> >
> > They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
> > glory days of Ferrari and MS.
> >
> > They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try
> to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of
> German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin
> color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long
> while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
> brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3) And yes,
> their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and
> Schumacher. No argument there.
>

I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working with
the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within the team.
Your claim that he had a significant influence in technical matters is
new to me. I don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
role.

Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?

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 by: Dan the Man - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:21 UTC

On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
> Dan the Man wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder
> > wrote:
> > > On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> > > >> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
> > > plot. >>
> > > >>
> > >
> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
> > > > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
> > > > absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > Serious inquiry?
> > >
> > > Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?
> > >
> > > They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
> > > glory days of Ferrari and MS.
> > >
> > > They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
> > Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try
> > to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of
> > German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin
> > color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long
> > while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
> > brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3) And yes,
> > their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and
> > Schumacher. No argument there.
> >
> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working with
> the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within the team.
> Your claim that he had a significant influence in technical matters is
> new to me. I don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
> role.
>
> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.

Dan

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 by: Alan - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:58 UTC

On 2022-04-22 9:21 a.m., Dan the Man wrote:
> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
>>> hofstatder wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
>>>>>> the
>>>> plot. >>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
>>>>> absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>> Serious inquiry?
>>>>
>>>> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
>>>> the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>>>>
>>>> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
>>>> hate.
>>> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
>>> try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
>>> of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
>>> skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
>>> long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
>>> of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
>>> And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
>>> Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.
>>>
>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
>> with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
>> the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
>> technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
>> to as having a technical role.
>>
>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
> idea man when it came to the car itself.

It wouldn't surprise me.

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 by: Bigbird - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 22:04 UTC

Dan the Man wrote:

> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
> > Dan the Man wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
> > > hofstatder wrote:
> > > > On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> > > > >> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
> > > > the plot. >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
> > wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
> > ers
> > > > > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for
> > > > > his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > Serious inquiry?
> > > >
> > > > Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
> > > > the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
> > > >
> > > > They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
> > > > hate.
> > > Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
> > > try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
> > > of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
> > > skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
> > > long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
> > > of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
> > > And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
> > > Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.
> > >
> > I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
> > with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
> > the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
> > technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
> > to as having a technical role.
> >
> > Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
> idea man when it came to the car itself.
>

Is that it?

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 by: Alan - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 22:09 UTC

On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Dan the Man wrote:
>
>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
>>>> hofstatder wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
>>>>> the plot. >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
>>> ers
>>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for
>>>>>> his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>> Serious inquiry?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
>>>>> the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
>>>>> hate.
>>>> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
>>>> try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
>>>> of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
>>>> skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
>>>> long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
>>>> of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
>>>> And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
>>>> Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.
>>>>
>>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
>>> with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
>>> the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
>>> technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
>>> to as having a technical role.
>>>
>>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
>> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
>> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
>> idea man when it came to the car itself.
>>
>
> Is that it?

Wait... ...just... ...wait.

You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities for
reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

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 by: Bigbird - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:54 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Dan the Man wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Dan the Man wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
> > > > > hofstatder wrote:
> > > > > > On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> > > > > > > > While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
> > > > > > > > lost
> > > > > > the plot. >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
> > > > wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
> > > > driv ers
> > > > > > > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
> > > > > > > for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
> > > > > > > guess.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > Serious inquiry?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
> > > > > > Black ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have accomplished very much in last many years,
> > > > > > similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
> > > > > > or hate.
> > > > > Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
> > > > > I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
> > > > > fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
> > > > > anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
> > > > > machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
> > > > > passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
> > > > > might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
> > > > > are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
> > > > > argument there.
> > > > >
> > > > I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
> > > > working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
> > > > bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a significant
> > > > influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
> > > > being referred to as having a technical role.
> > > >
> > > > Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
> > > > articles?
> > > A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
> > > don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
> > > being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
> > >
> >
> > Is that it?
>
> Wait... ...just... ...wait.
>
> You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
> something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
>
> That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
> for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
trolling.

GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

--

Bozo Bin
Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)

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On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 3:54:17 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

A month?
You are as dumb as he is.

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On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 3:54:17 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
>
> --
>
> Bozo Bin
> Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)

Can you set up a countdown clock in your sig?
You stupid cunt.

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 by: Just once for \big\b - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:55 UTC

On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
>>>>>> hofstatder wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
>>>>>>>>> lost
>>>>>>> the plot. >>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
>>>>> driv ers
>>>>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
>>>>>>>> for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>> Serious inquiry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
>>>>>>> Black ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have accomplished very much in last many years,
>>>>>>> similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
>>>>>>> or hate.
>>>>>> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
>>>>>> I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
>>>>>> fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
>>>>>> anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
>>>>>> machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
>>>>>> passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
>>>>>> might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
>>>>>> are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
>>>>>> argument there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
>>>>> working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
>>>>> bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a significant
>>>>> influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
>>>>> being referred to as having a technical role.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
>>>>> articles?
>>>> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
>>>> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
>>>> being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is that it?
>>
>> Wait... ...just... ...wait.
>>
>> You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
>> something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
>>
>> That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
>> for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
>
> No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.
>
> You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
> trolling.
>
> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
>
> --
>
> Bozo Bin
> Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
>

Ah yes: the coward's way!

Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
having to deal with the reply.

When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.

But you run away, little man!

When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
last dig.

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 by: texas gate - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 15:09 UTC

On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 8:55:27 AM UTC-6, Just once for "big"bird wrote:

> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
> last dig.

Oh fucking goody for you.
You have such high morals.
You fucking idiot.

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 by: leonard hofstatder - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 15:20 UTC

On 4/23/2022 9:55 AM, Just once for "big"bird wrote:
> On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
>>>>>>> hofstatder wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
>>>>>>>>>> lost
>>>>>>>> the plot. >>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
>>>>>> driv ers
>>>>>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
>>>>>>>>> for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
>>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>> Serious inquiry?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
>>>>>>>> Black ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have accomplished very much in last many years,
>>>>>>>> similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
>>>>>>>> or hate.
>>>>>>> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
>>>>>>> I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
>>>>>>> fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
>>>>>>> anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
>>>>>>> machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
>>>>>>> passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
>>>>>>> might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
>>>>>>> are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
>>>>>>> argument there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
>>>>>> working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
>>>>>> bullshit within the team.  Your claim that he had a significant
>>>>>> influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
>>>>>> being referred to as having a technical role.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
>>>>>> articles?
>>>>> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
>>>>> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
>>>>> being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that it?
>>>
>>> Wait... ...just... ...wait.
>>>
>>> You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
>>> something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
>>>
>>> That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
>>> for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
>>
>> No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.
>>
>> You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
>> trolling.
>>
>> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bozo Bin
>> Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
>>
>
> Ah yes: the coward's way!
>
> Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
> having to deal with the reply.
>
> When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
> political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
> you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.
>
> But you run away, little man!
>
> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
> last dig.

STOP CHANGING YOUR ALIAS TO AVOID KILL FILES.

JFC!

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 by: Bigbird - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 22:55 UTC

Just once for "big"bird wrote:

> > > > > > > > > After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might
> > > > > > > > > take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our
> > > > > > > > > answer, I guess.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > 2) Yes, Merc has
> > > > > > > been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just
> > > > > > > musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
> > > > > > > brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
> > > > > > working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
> > > > > > bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a
> > > > > > significant influence in technical matters is new to me. I
> > > > > > don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
> > > > > > role.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
> > > > > > articles?
> > > > > A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto
> > > > > Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited
> > > > > Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is that it?
> > >
> > > Wait... ...just... ...wait.
> > >
> > > You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
> > > something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
> > >
> > > That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or
> > > abilities for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
> >
> > No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.
> >
> > You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
> > trolling.
> >
> > GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
> >
> >
>
> Ah yes: the coward's way!
>
> Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
> having to deal with the reply.
>

Look at yourself you attention seeking toxic little twat.

> When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
> political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
> you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.
>

Another lie.
I did not dismiss anything.
You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about BUT since you insist
on HUMILIATING yourself yet again.

As above, Dan:
"After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess."
AND
"I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
brilliant technical mind might be holding them back"

So I asked him on what that rather bold statement was based and he
referenced a single unremarkable statement from Toto in some interview.

Hence "Is that it?"

So nothing to do with any of you small minded comments.

> But you run away, little man!
>

I didn't run, you pissant little shit stain.

I walked away from you toxicity and I told you why.
You are a know nothing know it all that can never reflect on nor accept
any response to you usually unintelligent comments. I could do with a
break from your incessant, tedious and relentless repetition of the
same flawed arguments and lies.

> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
> last dig.

Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
comment about you that you cannot see.

I can.

You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
in the Bozo bin.
So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.

There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
flatulent ego.

Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
comments behind my back, Bozo...

--
Bozo Bin
Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)

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 by: Darryl Johnson - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 23:48 UTC

On 2022-04-23 6:55 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> Just once for "big"bird wrote:
>

<snip>

>> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
>> last dig.
>
> Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
> with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
> comment about you that you cannot see.
>
> I can.
>
> You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
> in the Bozo bin.
> So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.
>
> There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
> flatulent ego.
>
> Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
> comments behind my back, Bozo...
>

Please, please, please just let it go.

Alan isn't going to change.

You're not going to change.

It's ends up with the two you insulting each other, calling each other
names and generally getting nowhere.

It's a total waste of time. Which is fine if it were just you and Alan
beating the dead horse ad infinitum. But if I killfile you, then I miss
anything you write that isn't a reply to Alan, and you do have some
value when then.

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 by: Bigbird - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 09:39 UTC

Darryl Johnson wrote:

> On 2022-04-23 6:55 PM, Bigbird wrote:
>
> Please, please, please just let it go.
>
> Alan isn't going to change.
>
> You're not going to change.
>
> It's ends up with the two you insulting each other, calling each
> other names and generally getting nowhere.
>
> It's a total waste of time. Which is fine if it were just you and
> Alan beating the dead horse ad infinitum. But if I killfile you, then
> I miss anything you write that isn't a reply to Alan, and you do have
> some value when then.

Thank you for that.

As you can see I did intend to extricate myself from the cycle of
nonsense by killfiling him but he could not let it go without
circumventing the killfile to double down on his previous absurd
comments.

He is out for a month now. Enjoy.

--
Bozo Bin
Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
Texasgate (no explanation needed)

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On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 3:39:32 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> He is out for a month now. Enjoy.

You've lost your fucking mind.

Re: ALAN BAKER PROVING HIMSELF A TEDIOUS LYING LITTLE TWAT (was: something slightly more interesting)

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Subject: Re: ALAN BAKER PROVING HIMSELF A TEDIOUS LYING LITTLE TWAT (was:
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 by: Alan - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:24 UTC

On 2022-04-23 3:55 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Just once for "big"bird wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might
>>>>>>>>>> take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our
>>>>>>>>>> answer, I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>> 2) Yes, Merc has
>>>>>>>> been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just
>>>>>>>> musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
>>>>>>>> brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
>>>>>>> working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
>>>>>>> bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a
>>>>>>> significant influence in technical matters is new to me. I
>>>>>>> don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
>>>>>>> role.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
>>>>>>> articles?
>>>>>> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto
>>>>>> Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited
>>>>>> Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that it?
>>>>
>>>> Wait... ...just... ...wait.
>>>>
>>>> You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
>>>> something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
>>>>
>>>> That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or
>>>> abilities for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
>>>
>>> No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.
>>>
>>> You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
>>> trolling.
>>>
>>> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah yes: the coward's way!
>>
>> Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
>> having to deal with the reply.
>>
>
> Look at yourself you attention seeking toxic little twat.
>
>> When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
>> political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
>> you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.
>>
>
> Another lie.
> I did not dismiss anything.

Yes. You did.

> You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about BUT since you insist
> on HUMILIATING yourself yet again.
>
> As above, Dan:
> "After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
> absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess."
> AND
> "I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
> brilliant technical mind might be holding them back"
>
> So I asked him on what that rather bold statement was based and he
> referenced a single unremarkable statement from Toto in some interview.
>
> Hence "Is that it?"
>
> So nothing to do with any of you small minded comments.

Then what do you claim you meant if not:

"Is a statement of support from Toto Wolff your only support for Lauda's
technical assistance, because that can be dismissed as being politic."

....hmm?

>
>> But you run away, little man!
>>
>
> I didn't run, you pissant little shit stain.

You did run.

>
> I walked away from you toxicity and I told you why.

Ran.

You took a shot and ran...

....like a whining pussy.

> You are a know nothing know it all that can never reflect on nor accept
> any response to you usually unintelligent comments. I could do with a
> break from your incessant, tedious and relentless repetition of the
> same flawed arguments and lies.

Come out to my track and tell me that.

I would LOVE to see you in a car.

>
>> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
>> last dig.
>
> Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
> with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
> comment about you that you cannot see.

You're simply wrong (shocker!).

I just don't make a big show of it.

In this group, Texasgate is killfiled.

>
> I can.

LOL

You mean you can make an insult and run.

>
> You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
> in the Bozo bin.
> So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.
>
> There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
> flatulent ego.

Completely worth it to see you utterly lose your shit.

>
> Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
> comments behind my back, Bozo...
>

I'm not the one taking shots from cover, pussy.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:34 UTC

On 2022-04-23 8:20 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
> On 4/23/2022 9:55 AM, Just once for "big"bird wrote:
>> On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
>>>>>>>> hofstatder wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
>>>>>>>>>>> lost
>>>>>>>>> the plot. >>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
>>>>>>> driv ers
>>>>>>>>>> After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
>>>>>>>>>> for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
>>>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>> Serious inquiry?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
>>>>>>>>> Black ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have accomplished very much in last many years,
>>>>>>>>> similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
>>>>>>>>> or hate.
>>>>>>>> Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
>>>>>>>> I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
>>>>>>>> fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
>>>>>>>> anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
>>>>>>>> machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
>>>>>>>> passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
>>>>>>>> might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
>>>>>>>> are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
>>>>>>>> argument there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
>>>>>>> working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
>>>>>>> bullshit within the team.  Your claim that he had a significant
>>>>>>> influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
>>>>>>> being referred to as having a technical role.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
>>>>>>> articles?
>>>>>> A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
>>>>>> don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
>>>>>> being an idea man when it came to the car itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that it?
>>>>
>>>> Wait... ...just... ...wait.
>>>>
>>>> You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
>>>> something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?
>>>>
>>>> That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
>>>> for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
>>>
>>> No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.
>>>
>>> You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
>>> trolling.
>>>
>>> GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bozo Bin
>>> Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
>>>
>>
>> Ah yes: the coward's way!
>>
>> Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
>> having to deal with the reply.
>>
>> When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
>> political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
>> you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.
>>
>> But you run away, little man!
>>
>> When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
>> last dig.
>
>
> STOP CHANGING YOUR ALIAS TO AVOID KILL FILES.
>
> JFC!

I'll do whatever I please...

....just as you are free to do so (including not having bothered to right
this reply).

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On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Come out to my track and tell me that.

and get your ass handed to you

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