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* Audi & Porsche 'decide to enter F1'Brian Lawrence
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 by: Edmund - Tue, 3 May 2022 18:29 UTC

On 5/3/22 20:13, Slang wrote:
> Il 03/05/2022 12:53, Edmund ha scritto:
>
>>> Humanity, due to the way it is organized and how it is located on earth, is unable to face the variations linked to climate change without catastrophic consequences.
>>
>> Amazing, our ancestors walked around 6 million years ago and the obviously coped very well with every change in the weather but now we can't?
>> Or are you try to tell us the climate was exactly the same the last 6 million years
>>
>>
>>> S
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>>
> Do you really want to live like our ancestors?

Ah you don't get it, OK

> I'd like to see you kill animals with your club for food.
> But, before reaching this situation, millions of migrants from submerged or no longer habitable lands could represent a big problem.

Yeah sure, In reality millions of those self proclaimed refugies from higher grounds demand free housing free money and free everything in a country that is
already a few meters below see level.
But don't get confused by facts.

> Think if someone came in front of our houses and camped there.
> And most likely they wouldn't have money, jobs and food ... hummmm, big problems on the horizon.
> And we are not talking about a few hundred thousand people, who are already creating considerable problems in this way.
> We are talking about tens of millions.
> And in any case it would be a tremendous shock to the economy: we will smile as we remember past crises.

Sure sure wasting trillions in reducing the building blocks of life ( CO2 ) is a great idea and will suit the economy well.

> But maybe a higher wall could be enough, right?

what is your take on the other things I said, like the trees found in melted glaciers?
> S.

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the more it will hate those who speak it”

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 by: Slang - Tue, 3 May 2022 18:30 UTC

Il 03/05/2022 20:18, texas gate ha scritto:

> Got anything on Porsche F1?
>
YES!!!
Big big news, but keep it for u, ok?:
They are planning to build a new PU.
For RBR, but this are only rumors....
S

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 by: Slang - Tue, 3 May 2022 18:43 UTC

Il 03/05/2022 20:29, Edmund ha scritto:

> Yeah sure, In reality millions of those self proclaimed refugies from
> higher grounds demand free housing free money and free everything in a
> country that is
> already a few meters below see level.
> But don't get confused by facts.

Imagine that them could become 10-100 times more.
All lying about their hard life, of course.
>
> Sure sure wasting trillions in reducing the building blocks of life (
> CO2 ) is a great idea and will suit the economy well.

Economy is already at stake, this economic system is at stake.
Could green economy represent a new source of work?
>
> what is your take on the other things I said, like the trees found in
> melted glaciers?

Glaciers are living organisms: they have always incorporated and
returned foreign bodies.
But I don't want to end up like Similaun's mummy.
Going back to prehistoric times seems to me the last of the options to
choose.
Maybe Einstein was right; a global conflict (and, for sure, it will be a
nuclear war) could be the final consequence of these changes: and then
the club hypothesis would be very probable.
S

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 by: texas gate - Tue, 3 May 2022 19:00 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 12:44:28 PM UTC-6, Slang wrote:

> Imagine

> seems to me

> Maybe

> could be

thanks

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Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> writes:
> In article <87v8umis4l.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>,
> Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
>> It's just bad science.
>
> Yes you got that right. Science that can't be questioned isn't
> science it's propaganda.

Haha, the old "I'll pretend you're talking about one thing when
you're clearly talking about something else" switcharoo. I miss
that, ... I haven't heard it since primary school.

Did you have any reasoned counter-argument, or just the infantile
drooling?

Phil
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 by: Edmund - Tue, 3 May 2022 19:11 UTC

On 5/3/22 20:43, Slang wrote:
> Il 03/05/2022 20:29, Edmund ha scritto:
>
>> Yeah sure, In reality millions of those self proclaimed refugies from higher grounds demand free housing free money and free everything in a country that is
>> already a few meters below see level.
>> But don't get confused by facts.
>
> Imagine that them could become 10-100 times more.

Immigrating to a land blow see level, you got it!

> All lying about their hard life, of course.

Of course not, they all show great gratitude by robbing and raping and they all go back to their own country
on vacation!!! as soon as the benefit and child support is arranged. :-)
>>
>> Sure sure wasting trillions in reducing the building blocks of life ( CO2 ) is a great idea and will suit the economy well.
>
> Economy is already at stake, this economic system is at stake.
> Could green economy represent a new source of work?
>>
>> what is your take on the other things I said, like the trees found in melted glaciers?
>
> Glaciers are living organisms: they have always incorporated and returned foreign bodies.

The trees have grown there, the roots are still in the ground.

So Porsche is going to make a fossil fueled engine, strange but fine with me.

--
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the more it will hate those who speak it”

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 by: Alan LeHun - Tue, 3 May 2022 19:29 UTC

In article <t4ovtu$1v9$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
> I find this a bit strange since in Europe they will ban all fossil fuels
> and engines.

Part of the 'deal' used to lure them in is that fully renewable fuels
will be used from 2026 on. E100 effectively.

--
Alan LeHun

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 by: News - Tue, 3 May 2022 20:01 UTC

On 5/3/2022 3:29 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <t4ovtu$1v9$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>> I find this a bit strange since in Europe they will ban all fossil fuels
>> and engines.
>
> Part of the 'deal' used to lure them in is that fully renewable fuels
> will be used from 2026 on. E100 effectively.

Sure. Turn over those fields for dirty ethanol production.

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 by: geoff - Tue, 3 May 2022 21:26 UTC

On 3/05/2022 10:14 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <SImdnXkoatQXYu3_nZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>> On 3/05/2022 8:55 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
>>> In article <SOadnbbsOu_QQO3_nZ2dnUU7-I2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>
>>> Look further and you'll find thousands of scientists that
>>> disagree with this 50 year old narrative. "The end is nigh"
>>> proclaimed by loons for 50 years and all predictions ALWAYS come
>>> to nothing. Even prince Charles - his prediction came and went
>>> just like all the others. In the 70s we were told daily how we
>>> were heading for another ice age as temperatures had fallen since
>>> 1940. 30 years of cooling whilst CO2 was shooting up in a post
>>> war world.
>
>> And what has happened since then - the 'natural' factors have
>> suddenly changed ?
>
> Watch the video and it will show you !
>
> Bob.
>

Only thing that shows is how one can find a crank scientist to 'prove'
practically anything you want.

The assertions are so flawed that a school-kid should be able to reason
what is wrong.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Tue, 3 May 2022 21:29 UTC

On 4/05/2022 3:17 am, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <87v8umis4l.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>,
> Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
>
>
>> It's just bad science.
>
> Yes you got that right. Science that can't be questioned isn't
> science it's propaganda.
>
> Bob.
>

Science says humans breath oxygen. Somebody questioning that is somehow
somehow not a fuckwit ?!!!

geoff

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 by: geoff - Wed, 4 May 2022 04:16 UTC

On 3/05/2022 8:55 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
..
>
> I quote David Bellamy:
>
> "Global warming is part of natural cycle and there's nothing we can
> do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast
> amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn't exist."

David Bellamy, who became the well-known crank.

And David Attenborough will say that humans are contributing to the
current unprecedented temperature rise. So what.

I know whose opinions I would put greater faith in.

geoff

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:16:52 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> I know

you know fuck all
logoff stupid

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:16:52 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> David Bellamy, who became the well-known crank.
>
> And David Attenborough will say that humans are contributing to the
> current unprecedented temperature rise. So what.
>
> I know whose opinions I would put greater faith in.

Bob has your panties in a knot.
You already replied to this.
Fuck are you dim.
Get a life.
Move on.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:10:24 AM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> Must be getting senile

speaking of senile

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 by: Edmund - Wed, 4 May 2022 07:17 UTC

On 5/3/22 23:29, geoff wrote:
> On 4/05/2022 3:17 am, Bob Latham wrote:
>> In article <87v8umis4l.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>,
>>     Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It's just bad science.
>>
>> Yes you got that right. Science that can't be questioned isn't
>> science it's propaganda.
>>
>> Bob.
>>
>
> Science says humans breath oxygen. Somebody questioning that is somehow somehow not a fuckwit ?!!!
>
> geoff

You really have no idea what he is telling you.

Edmund

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

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 by: Edmund - Wed, 4 May 2022 07:28 UTC

On 5/3/22 21:29, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <t4ovtu$1v9$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>> I find this a bit strange since in Europe they will ban all fossil fuels
>> and engines.
>
> Part of the 'deal' used to lure them in is that fully renewable fuels
> will be used from 2026 on. E100 effectively.
>

For what purpose?
Such fuels will - hopefully - never be used on the street since
it will be both insane expensive and inefficient compared to a battery car.
Not to mention that IF it is used on street cars, those cars can use conventional
fuel too, so there will be a smart guy who sell conventional fuel as green
fuel.

Edmund

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 4 May 2022 08:34 UTC

In article <RbKdnWQ3S_iDA-z_nZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com>,
geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

> Only thing that shows is how one can find a crank scientist to
> 'prove' practically anything you want.

> The assertions are so flawed that a school-kid should be able to
> reason what is wrong.

I'm sorry to tell you Geoff but you're the victim of religious
indoctrination. I'm telling religious zealots that there is no God
and getting backlash. Not surprising I suppose.

Out of interest. If CO2 is the great temperature control why we had
the little ice age 300 years + ago and what caused all the previous
warm periods at predictable intervals. All those 4x4 Chelsea taxis in
medieval and Roman times no doubt.

The Earth had an ice age for millions of years with 10x the CO2 we
have now, what mental gymnastics do you use to explain that to
yourself.

By burning fossil fuels we are returning the Earth's atmosphere very,
very slightly nearer to how it was when life and later, man began.
This is restoration not destruction. Plants and therefore us, cannot
live with CO2 at a minimum of 150ppm. The planet was heading towards
plant death until man returned some of that CO2 from whence it had
come.

Bob.

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 by: Phil Carmody - Wed, 4 May 2022 11:20 UTC

Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> writes:
> In article <RbKdnWQ3S_iDA-z_nZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>> Only thing that shows is how one can find a crank scientist to
>> 'prove' practically anything you want.
>
>> The assertions are so flawed that a school-kid should be able to
>> reason what is wrong.
>
> I'm sorry to tell you Geoff but you're the victim of religious
> indoctrination. I'm telling religious zealots that there is no God
> and getting backlash. Not surprising I suppose.
>
> Out of interest. If CO2 is the great temperature control why we had
> the little ice age 300 years + ago and what caused all the previous
> warm periods at predictable intervals. All those 4x4 Chelsea taxis in
> medieval and Roman times no doubt.

If Tesla's self driving is causing so many car crashes, why did we
have car crashes 100 years ago?

You really have no idea how logic works, do you? You appear to be
completely unaware of the difference between A=>B and B=>A. Your
argument against "peanut butter comes in jars" appears to be "but
look at all the jam jars, herp derp".

Phil
--
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
-- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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 by: Alan LeHun - Wed, 4 May 2022 13:52 UTC

In article <t4s1lt$knf$1@dont-email.me>, News@Group.Name says...
> >> I find this a bit strange since in Europe they will ban all fossil fuels
> >> and engines.
> >
> > Part of the 'deal' used to lure them in is that fully renewable fuels
> > will be used from 2026 on. E100 effectively.
>
>
> Sure. Turn over those fields for dirty ethanol production.
>

On the one hand we need to stop eating meat because it is inefficient
and will eventually lead to food shortages and on the other we need to
make bio-fuels which are more inefficient....

The future clearly does not lead in that direction.

--
Alan LeHun

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 by: Phil Carmody - Wed, 4 May 2022 15:42 UTC

geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
> On 3/05/2022 8:55 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
> .
>>
>> I quote David Bellamy:
>>
>> "Global warming is part of natural cycle and there's nothing we can
>> do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast
>> amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn't exist."
>
> David Bellamy, who became the well-known crank.

He's not been much on my radar in recent decades, I used to respect
him...
>clickety-click<
"""
A letter he published on 16 April 2005 in New Scientist asserted that a
large proportion (555 of 625) of the glaciers being observed by the
World Glacier Monitoring Service were advancing, not retreating.[24]
George Monbiot of The Guardian tracked down Bellamy's original source
for this information and found that it was from discredited data
originally published by Fred Singer, who claimed to have obtained these
figures from a 1989 article in the journal Science; however, Monbiot
proved that this article had never existed.[25] Bellamy subsequently
accepted that his figures on glaciers were wrong, and announced in a
letter to The Sunday Times in 2005 that he had "decided to draw back
from the debate on global warming"
"""

Ooopsie! Credit for admitting he was wrong, but your credibility
should be pretty shot to pieces after that kind of goof.

Never heard of Singer, though, who seems to be largely to blame for
setting the trap that Bellamy fell into...
>clickety-click<
"""
In August 2007 Newsweek reported that in April 1998 a dozen people from
what it called "the denial machine" met at the American Petroleum
Institute's Washington headquarters. The meeting included Singer's
group, the George C. Marshall Institute, and ExxonMobil. Newsweek said
that, according to an eight-page memo that was leaked, the meeting
proposed a $5-million campaign to convince the public that the science
of global warming was controversial and uncertain. The plan was leaked
to the press and never implemented.[72] The week after the story,
Newsweek published a contrary view from Robert Samuelson, one of its
columnists, who said the story of an industry-funded denial machine was
contrived and fundamentally misleading.[73] ABC News reported in March
2008 that Singer said he is not on the payroll of the energy industry,
but he acknowledged that SEPP had received one unsolicited charitable
donation of $10,000 from ExxonMobil, and that it was one percent of all
donations received. Singer said that his connection to Exxon was more
like being on their mailing list than holding a paid position.[74] The
relationships have discredited Singer's research among members of the
scientific community, according to Scheuering. Congresswoman Lynn Rivers
questioned Singer's credibility during a congressional hearing in 1995,
saying he had not been able to publish anything in a peer-reviewed
scientific journal for the previous 15 years, except for one technical
comment.[9][75]
"""
So that one's behind a lobby group sucking on big-oil's teat.

> And David Attenborough will say that humans are contributing to the
> current unprecedented temperature rise. So what.
>
> I know whose opinions I would put greater faith in.

Ditto.

My earlier clickety-click also yielded this:
https://www.monbiot.com/2004/08/19/correspondence-with-david-bellamy/
I particularly liked the ALLCAPS! I know the sound of a cuckoo when
I hear one, and I hear one.

Shame. As I said, I used to respect him (back in the 80s/90s).

Phil
--
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
-- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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 by: Edmund - Fri, 6 May 2022 07:38 UTC

On 5/4/22 06:16, geoff wrote:
> On 3/05/2022 8:55 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
> .
>>
>> I quote David Bellamy:
>>
>> "Global warming is part of natural cycle and there's nothing we can
>> do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast
>> amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn't exist."
>
> David Bellamy, who became the well-known crank.
>
> And David Attenborough will say that humans are contributing to the current unprecedented temperature rise. So what.
>
> I know whose opinions I would put greater faith in.
>
> geoff

Well that is a dead giveaway about your way of (NOT) thinking.
FYI, science is not about believing, or who you should trust, science is about
data - the not altered data that is - and facts.
That you willingly ( admit) that you put your blind trust in a crook as
David Attenborough, says it all.
Me too saw the tear drawing fake documentary from Attenborough in which an
old sick and dying polar bear starred and which he made it look like it was due to climate change.

Edmund
--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:14 UTC

In article <t52j8r$cem$1@dont-email.me>,
Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/4/22 06:16, geoff wrote:
> > On 3/05/2022 8:55 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
> > .
> >>
> >> I quote David Bellamy:
> >>
> >> "Global warming is part of natural cycle and there's nothing we
> >> can do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a
> >> vast amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that
> >> doesn't exist."
> >
> > David Bellamy, who became the well-known crank.
> >
> > And David Attenborough will say that humans are contributing to
> > the current unprecedented temperature rise. So what.
> >
> > I know whose opinions I would put greater faith in.
> >
> > geoff

> Well that is a dead giveaway about your way of (NOT) thinking. FYI,
> science is not about believing, or who you should trust, science is
> about data - the not altered data that is - and facts. That you
> willingly ( admit) that you put your blind trust in a crook as
> David Attenborough, says it all. Me too saw the tear drawing fake
> documentary from Attenborough in which an old sick and dying polar
> bear starred and which he made it look like it was due to climate
> change.

+1
So true.

During the Russia crisis this last month I've been amazed at how many
people are telling us about the Russian people being brainwashed by
their media's propaganda. Yet just like the Russians these same
people can't see past the same thing happening with our media. When
will they wake up?

There is no climate crisis !!

I know this because:

The opposition is constantly silenced and rubbished, the truth does
need to do this.

"scientists" were caught colluding about air brushing the medieval
warm period from history.

Polar bears are fine but the expert woman that told us that, was
sacked.

NASA and others have admitted changing historical records to cool the
past. They hide the fact that the warmest recent period in the USA
was in the mid 1930s.

None of the pacific islands that were going to disappear have done so.

The barrier reef is absolutely fine.

The actual science shows MORE radiation from planet's surface leaving
into space not less as ACC predicts.

The actual science shows that the *trivial* effect of CO2 diminishes
as it saturates and as the quantity increases, it is self limiting.
Water vapour has far more effect than CO2.

It doesn't matter what aspect of ACC you investigate somewhere
someone has a more rational explanation or debunk but of course, the
media will not publish that, goes against the narrative. Just as with
covid, only one view is allowed and it's often wrong.

Actually the list goes on and on, if you look and stop taking the
lying media at face value. Doesn't matter what the topic, the media
has an agenda and telling the truth isn't part of it.

Instead join the religion of ACC, do the witch burning, the
sacrifices and see where it gets you. All the cold homes and poverty
you generate with this religion is what will lead to people dying of
climate change, people will die due to irrational hysteria and over
reaction to nothing. All of this will make no difference to the
climate or weather.

"Trust the science" is the most anti science statement ever.
Questioning science is how you do science. Science that can't be
questioned is propaganda.

When men stop believing in God they don't believe in nothing; they
believe in anything.

Bob.

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