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Gotta be George.

A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 7:46:20 AM UTC+10, build wrote:
> Gotta be George.
>
> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.

Interesting that after the interviews, George looked like the team leader while Toto was busy making excuses.

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Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.

Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.

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On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
> Gotta be George.
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Got to be Russell.

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On 9/05/2022 12:11 pm, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.
>
> Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.

George is a bloody good driver but he didn't do anything noteworthy at Miami (other than getting
the rub of the green yet again).

My DOTD is Leclerc (just) for pushing Verstappen (who was in the faster race car) right to the end.
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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:11:20 AM UTC+10, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.
>
> Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.

Best part of the race was watching the battles through the middle of the race. Max and Charles trading laps versus tyre wear, great stuff. You'll get the hang of it after a few years. Try watching the timing screen so you can see all the battles more clearly.

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:29:43 AM UTC+10, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 12:11 pm, XYXPDQ wrote:
> > Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.
> >
> > Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.
> George is a bloody good driver but he didn't do anything noteworthy at Miami (other than getting
> the rub of the green yet again).
>
> My DOTD is Leclerc (just) for pushing Verstappen (who was in the faster race car) right to the end.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
> in the DSM"
> David Melville
>
> This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

Yeah, the weight of that jewellery must be slowing Lewis down enough for George to pass him twice.

build

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 02:52 UTC

On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>> Gotta be George.
>>
>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>
>
> Got to be Russell.

Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck yet
again.

geoff

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 by: Alan - Mon, 9 May 2022 04:20 UTC

On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>> Gotta be George.
>>>
>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>
>>
>> Got to be Russell.
>
> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck yet
> again.

In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 04:58 UTC

On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>
>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Got to be Russell.
>>
>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>> yet again.
>
> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
that part at least) ?

geoff

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 by: Alan - Mon, 9 May 2022 05:23 UTC

On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>
>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>
>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>> yet again.
>>
>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>
> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
> that part at least) ?
>
> geoff

There was no red flag during the race.

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 05:24 UTC

On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>>> yet again.
>>>
>>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>>
>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
>> that part at least) ?
>>
>> geoff
>
> There was no red flag during the race.

Safety-car sorry.

geoff

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 by: build - Mon, 9 May 2022 08:59 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
> > On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
> >> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
> >>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
> >>>>>> Gotta be George.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
> >>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Got to be Russell.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
> >>>> yet again.
> >>>
> >>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
> >>
> >> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
> >> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
> >> that part at least) ?
> >>
> >> geoff
> >
> > There was no red flag during the race.
> Safety-car sorry.
>
> geoff

Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !

build

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:32 UTC

On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>> On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>>>>> yet again.
>>>>>
>>>>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>>>>
>>>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
>>>> that part at least) ?
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>
>>> There was no red flag during the race.
>> Safety-car sorry.
>>
>> geoff
>
> Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
>
> build

Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.

And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it.

geoff

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In article <nPKdnRmx0NRKZuX_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org says...
> And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it.
>

HAM did that to himself. He was given the choice and said he didn't want
to give the place to RUS.

RUS took it anyway. We could all see that was going to happen.

--
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 by: Alan - Mon, 9 May 2022 15:20 UTC

On 2022-05-09 4:32 a.m., geoff wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of
>>>>>>>>> luck but
>>>>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>>>>>> yet again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
>>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
>>>>> that part at least) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>> There was no red flag during the race.
>>> Safety-car sorry.
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
>>
>> build
>
> Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
>
> And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from
> it.
>
> geoff

"He caused the red flag"

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 by: Phil Carmody - Mon, 9 May 2022 16:58 UTC

geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>
>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>
>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>> yet again.
>>
>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>
> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
> that part at least) ?

There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case
there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm",
or similar.

So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
point, and that investment paid off handsomely.

Which contrasts him against Lewis' ~"I don't know, that's your job"
in response to a question about whether he wanted to change tyres
several laps into the safety car period.

However, much as I think his strategic smarts, and subsequent overtake
of a 7 time world champion in the same car are a strong argument for
RUS, my DotD has to go to the guy who caused a couple of Italians in the
pub to be wailing and swearing and hand-waving and generally getting
their nappies in a twist, good old double-Ferrai-beater VER.

Phil
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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:20:15 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> "He caused the red flag"

fuck off pussy

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 22:19 UTC

On 10/05/2022 1:30 am, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <nPKdnRmx0NRKZuX_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org says...
>> And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it.
>>
>
> HAM did that to himself. He was given the choice and said he didn't want
> to give the place to RUS.

Did he actually himself opt for tyres that would make it inevitable that
RUS would come out on top, and that he would not be able to potentially
climb up to a podium position ? If so, then he must have ongoing
brain-fog from his Covid bout.

>
> RUS took it anyway. We could all see that was going to happen.

Certainly with HAM on new hards !

geoff

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 22:20 UTC

On 10/05/2022 3:20 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-09 4:32 a.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Gotta be George.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> luck but
>>>>>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Got to be Russell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
>>>>>>>> yet again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy
>>>>>> leading up
>>>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
>>>>>> that part at least) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geoff
>>>>>
>>>>> There was no red flag during the race.
>>>> Safety-car sorry.
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>
>>> Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
>>>
>>> build
>>
>> Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
>>
>> And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got
>> from it.
>>
>> geoff
>
> "He caused the red flag"

Um, ever heard of a joke ?

geoff

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> Um, ever heard of a joke ?

he sees one in the mirror

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 by: ~misfit~ - Tue, 10 May 2022 00:29 UTC

On 10/05/2022 4:58 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
<snip>
> There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
> that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case
> there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm",
> or similar.
>
> So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
> point, and that investment paid off handsomely.

That was a pretty simple decision though, push the pitstop back in case he could gain >10 seconds
on the field. His tyres weren't getting much worse lap by lap so it was a no brainer. His strategy
was designed so that his pitstop was flexible due to his poor qualifying.

> Which contrasts him against Lewis' ~"I don't know, that's your job"
> in response to a question about whether he wanted to change tyres
> several laps into the safety car period.

When you're at the pointy end of the field and have made your mandatory stop that's a far more
complex decision which required second-by-second knowledge of exactly where following cars were.
Lewis was right, THAT decision was the job of a strategist with all of the information that a
driver doesn't have.

Also George asked his engineer a question on strategy whereas Lewis' engineer asked Lewis a question.

> However, much as I think his strategic smarts,
Ehhh.... He asked a question to which the answer was obvious to the engineer who had access to the
relative speeds of the cars in front and behind. Hardly rocket surgery.

> and subsequent overtake
> of a 7 time world champion in the same car

Same car but very different tyres. Not only was George on the preferred compound but they were 18
laps newer than Lewis' old hards. If he HADN'T passed him then I'd have been very surprised.

Don't get me wrong, I think George has what it takes to be a multiple world champion* but a little
perspective goes a long way...

> are a strong argument for
> RUS, my DotD has to go to the guy who caused a couple of Italians in the
> pub to be wailing and swearing and hand-waving and generally getting
> their nappies in a twist, good old double-Ferrai-beater VER.
>
> Phil

[*] As does Lewis - did you notice that this year Lewis' car is carrying the fluoro flashes on the
camera housings (which were on Bottas' car last year) that traditionally designate a teams second car?

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 6:30:00 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

> [*] As does Lewis - did you notice that this year Lewis' car is carrying the fluoro flashes on the
> camera housings (which were on Bottas' car last year) that traditionally designate a teams second car?

take off your tin foil hat

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 by: build - Tue, 10 May 2022 04:23 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:32:46 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
> > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> >> On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
> >>>> On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
> >>>>>> On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Gotta be George.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
> >>>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Got to be Russell.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
> >>>>>> yet again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
> >>>>
> >>>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
> >>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
> >>>> that part at least) ?
> >>>>
> >>>> geoff
> >>>
> >>> There was no red flag during the race.
> >> Safety-car sorry.
> >>
> >> geoff
> >
> > Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
> > build
> Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
> geoff

You did. It's above but here you go.
[QUOTE]
>> He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
>> that part at least) ?
>> geoff
> There was no red flag during the race.
Safety-car sorry.
geoff
[END QUOTE]

Your infatuation with Lewis is not healthy. Others are celebrating a great battle between Lewis and George while you are stuck in your own tunnel vision. This is the start of what may be one of the best battles we will ever see between team mates and indeed between teams with RedBull, Ferrari and Merc and their great drivers, Max, Checo, Charles, Carlos, Lewis and George. All great teams and great drivers battling for the title. We are being spoilt right now. Enjoy it, celebrate it. We are watching history being made.

I know my boys will talk about their dads obsession with motorsport, driving and watching it on TV. And, in particular "his excitement about the 2022 season."

build

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:30:00 AM UTC+10, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 10/05/2022 4:58 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
> <snip>
> > There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
> > that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case
> > there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm",
> > or similar.
> >
> > So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
> > point, and that investment paid off handsomely.
> That was a pretty simple decision though, push the pitstop back in case he could gain >10 seconds

No. The difference between a normal stop which took 20-22 secs of race time or "Pit Gap Delta" or "Pit Loss Time" and a Virtual Safety Car which takes 16-17 secs "Pit Gap Delta" is only 4-6 secs (not >10 secs). While I rarely listen to the commentators during the race, I'm sure they would have pointed that out. They certainly discussed it in the pre-race rambling.

> on the field. His tyres weren't getting much worse lap by lap so it was a no brainer. His strategy
> was designed so that his pitstop was flexible due to his poor qualifying.
[SNIP]
> --
> Shaun.

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