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 by: Alan - Mon, 9 May 2022 16:21 UTC

40 years ago today, one of the greatest drivers to ever compete in F1
left far too soon.

Nigel Roebuck:

"Gilles was the one bloke who made you go and look for a corner in a
practice session, because you knew that where everybody else would go
through it as if on rails, Gilles would be worth watching. That day in
the rain at Watkins Glen was almost beyond belief. It truly was.

"You would think he had 300 horsepower more than anybody else. It just
didn't seem possible. The speed he was travelling at didn't bear any
relation to anybody else. He was 11 seconds faster. Jody was next
fastest and couldn't believe it, saying he had scared himself rigid! I
remember [Jacques] Laffite in the pits just giggling when Gilles went
past and saying, 'Why do we bother? He's different from the rest of us.
On a separate level'."

<http://en.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/6630.html>

Yes, you read that correctly:

He was eleven seconds faster than the next fastest driver, who was his
teammate, Jody Scheckter.

ELEVEN SECONDS

In his first ever grand prix, he set the 5th fastest lap of the race...

....in LAST YEAR'S CAR.

If you haven't seen it already (and it, watch the last 4 laps of the
1979 French Grand Prix at Dijon:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTx_7a9A90>

Perhaps the best wheel-to-wheel duel between two drivers I have ever
seen. The last lap is epic.

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From: no_em...@invalid.invalid (Sir Tim)
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 by: Sir Tim - Mon, 9 May 2022 16:39 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 40 years ago today, one of the greatest drivers to ever compete in F1
> left far too soon.
>
> Nigel Roebuck:
>
> "Gilles was the one bloke who made you go and look for a corner in a
> practice session, because you knew that where everybody else would go
> through it as if on rails, Gilles would be worth watching. That day in
> the rain at Watkins Glen was almost beyond belief. It truly was.
>
> "You would think he had 300 horsepower more than anybody else. It just
> didn't seem possible. The speed he was travelling at didn't bear any
> relation to anybody else. He was 11 seconds faster. Jody was next
> fastest and couldn't believe it, saying he had scared himself rigid! I
> remember [Jacques] Laffite in the pits just giggling when Gilles went
> past and saying, 'Why do we bother? He's different from the rest of us.
> On a separate level'."
>
> <http://en.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/6630.html>
>
> Yes, you read that correctly:
>
> He was eleven seconds faster than the next fastest driver, who was his
> teammate, Jody Scheckter.
>
> ELEVEN SECONDS

Yes, Gilles had fantastic car control, especially in the wet.

Another great wet weather driver was Pedro Rodriguez. I was at the BOAC
1000 kilometers at Brands Hatch in 1970 - it was streaming with rain and
Rodriguez won by 5 laps. Chris Amon remarked, “they forgot to tell Pedro
it’s raining” :-)

--
Sir Tim

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Subject: Re: Gilles Villeneuve: Maybe the greatest, or maybe not...but we'll
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 by: Alan - Mon, 9 May 2022 21:47 UTC

On 2022-05-09 9:39 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 40 years ago today, one of the greatest drivers to ever compete in F1
>> left far too soon.
>>
>> Nigel Roebuck:
>>
>> "Gilles was the one bloke who made you go and look for a corner in a
>> practice session, because you knew that where everybody else would go
>> through it as if on rails, Gilles would be worth watching. That day in
>> the rain at Watkins Glen was almost beyond belief. It truly was.
>>
>> "You would think he had 300 horsepower more than anybody else. It just
>> didn't seem possible. The speed he was travelling at didn't bear any
>> relation to anybody else. He was 11 seconds faster. Jody was next
>> fastest and couldn't believe it, saying he had scared himself rigid! I
>> remember [Jacques] Laffite in the pits just giggling when Gilles went
>> past and saying, 'Why do we bother? He's different from the rest of us.
>> On a separate level'."
>>
>> <http://en.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/6630.html>
>>
>> Yes, you read that correctly:
>>
>> He was eleven seconds faster than the next fastest driver, who was his
>> teammate, Jody Scheckter.
>>
>> ELEVEN SECONDS
>
> Yes, Gilles had fantastic car control, especially in the wet.
>
> Another great wet weather driver was Pedro Rodriguez. I was at the BOAC
> 1000 kilometers at Brands Hatch in 1970 - it was streaming with rain and
> Rodriguez won by 5 laps. Chris Amon remarked, “they forgot to tell Pedro
> it’s raining” :-)
>
>
>

The very first race in my FF, I was already faster in the rain than at
least one regular at the circuit who was also a racing instructor. It
was right then that I realized I just might be able to do this.

:-)

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 by: texas gate - Mon, 9 May 2022 21:53 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> The very first race in my FF, I was already faster in the rain than at
> least one regular at the circuit who was also a racing instructor. It
> was right then that I realized I just might be able to do this.

doesnt matter
you are still a fucking idiot

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 by: geoff - Mon, 9 May 2022 22:32 UTC

On 10/05/2022 4:21 am, Alan wrote:

>
> If you haven't seen it already (and it, watch the last 4 laps of the
> 1979 French Grand Prix at Dijon:
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTx_7a9A90>
>
> Perhaps the best wheel-to-wheel duel between two drivers I have ever
> seen. The last lap is epic.

Scary how little bodywork there was in front of those drivers !

geoff

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 by: Alan - Tue, 10 May 2022 04:53 UTC

On 2022-05-09 3:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 10/05/2022 4:21 am, Alan wrote:
>
>>
>> If you haven't seen it already (and it, watch the last 4 laps of the
>> 1979 French Grand Prix at Dijon:
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTx_7a9A90>
>>
>> Perhaps the best wheel-to-wheel duel between two drivers I have ever
>> seen. The last lap is epic.
>
> Scary how little bodywork there was in front of those drivers !
>
> geoff

Different days, different assumed risk.

There's a racer who's recently returned to my class after suffering a
major cardiac problem in his 1984 Van Diemen RF84...

....and he is way further forward than I am in my RF98 model.

Have you ever seen a shot of a '70s F1 car with the upper body work off;
one of the pre-carbon fibre monocoque cars?

The driver looks like he's sitting in bathtub with his whole upper body
just behind a thin shell of fibreglass.!

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:53:06 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> There's a racer who's recently returned to my class after suffering a
> major cardiac problem in his 1984 Van Diemen RF84...
>
> ...and he is way further forward than I am in my RF98 model.

doesnt matter
you are still a fucking idiot

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 by: texas gate - Tue, 10 May 2022 05:20 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 4:32:31 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> Scary how little bodywork there was in front of those drivers !

yet you are not scared of unprotected gay sex

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Subject: Re: Gilles Villeneuve: Maybe the greatest, or maybe not...but we'll
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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:39:52 AM UTC-7, Sir Tim wrote:

> Yes, Gilles had fantastic car control, especially in the wet.
>
>Stuffy old Motor Sport magazine chose Gilles as the only possible cover to express 100 years of motor sport.
>
> --
> Sir Tim

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