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 by: build - Sun, 15 May 2022 05:13 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:16:15 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:06:13 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
> > On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
> > > On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
> > >>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
> > >>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
> > >>>>>>>>> Florida.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
> > >>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
> > >>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
> > >>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Because you know it all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
> > >>>
> > >>> Figures you won't present of course...
> > >>>
> > >>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even
> > >>>> heard about the real figures.
> > >>>
> > >>> So show them.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
> > >>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work
> > >>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF,
> > >>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
> > >>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save
> > >>>> lives or not.
> > >>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
> > >>>
> > >>> You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths
> > >>> there would have been without vaccination.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
> > >>>>>> world.
> > >>>>>> So us some figures.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Really?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I see you don't have it either.
> > >>>
> > >>> You're the one making all the claims here...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
> > >>>>> doesn't wanna!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> LOL
> > >>>
> > >>> Irony.
> > >>
> > >> Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
> > >> he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
> > >> he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence
> > >> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
> > >> their dreams to collect their sperm.
> > >
> > > What figures? Show them.
> > > Pfizer documents?
> > So you want others to show figures...
> >
> > ...but not you.
> >
> > Got it.
> A couple of anecdotal points on masks.
> * Look at Denmark, Sweden(i think, the one who stayed open) and Taiwan. All quite different.
> * All 'basically' now say "no masks" and present their data.
> The data in all cases is different and well worth reading in full.
> I've got a new 'mask rule'. If someone else has a mask, mine goes on. No skin off my nose and they feel more comfortable.
>
> I was due for a booster in May. Based on the data last year when I was vaxed, I had a set idea of what booster I'd get. But in April I dug up my long text file on the vax to confirm my info and decision. Six months in a pandemic is a long time. Firstly I checked to see what data had been updated but about 2/3 of the pages or data had been removed totally. That's mostly from Gov/Uni sites but also Pharma sites. Whole research reports along with reviews, gone. No problem, wayback machine. Nope gone from there too. I almost grew a foil hat on the spot. But the explanation is much simpler than that. In their rush a huge number of people stuffed up. It's not a conspiracy, it's a stuffup. Of the data left about half had changed but annoyingly they had mostly not notated the changes. The data that's still there and unchanged was all on the conservative side.
> So in summary. The data that said it was really very effective has gone and the data that shows it's mildly effective is still there.
>
> * Is it poisonous? I and "everyone" I know are still alive apart from those who reached an age related departure. Why don't I know anyone who was killed or injured by it? of the few who say they know of someone who died: "What's their name?" "I can't tell you.", etc. That's not to say there are no deaths or no adverse reactions, there are but lived experience shows they are rare.
> * Is it effective? Again from all the people around me (except me), no. Everyone (except me) who's been around it has got it. I've been a "close contact" more often than I can remember as it swept through our area. But, no confirmed positive tests. So was that the vax or am I just one of those who are immune? (I've never had the flu either.)
> * Does it reduce illness? Only 2 people I know went to hospital. And it seems many if not most had absolutely no symptoms like my youngest who I had to "nurse" while he was isolated. Basically by nurse I mean "slave". "Dad, I'm not allowed to ..., can you do ..." Little bugga :-). So either it is effective at reducing illness or the virus is not as bad as claimed. Both have solid cases that hold up.
> * The interesting bit is that those few i know who did not take the vax had the same sorts of reactions as those who did have the vax.
> My summary:
> If you are anti-vax (anti-mask), take your hat off.
> If you are pro-vax (pro-mask) take your 'obedience' glasses off.
> Talk nicely with the people you know. The truth is where it usually is, somewhere in the middle.
>
> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
> Another certain thing that can be proved, is that "The Science" is not an answer or fact. It is an "excuse". So if someone says "The Science" and hides behind it then you know they are 'Bovine Excrementing'.
>
> build

BTW. I suggest reading an article in the BJM: (Something like) The Illusion Of Evidence Based Medicine. It is worth the time, it's not a long read.
build

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
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> >
> > The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
>
> geoff

Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> > On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
> > Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
> >
> > geoff
> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
> build

Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
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 by: geoff - Sun, 15 May 2022 05:21 UTC

On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
>>> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
>>>
>>> geoff
>> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
>> build
>
> Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
> build

It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

geoff

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 by: build - Sun, 15 May 2022 05:45 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> >>> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
> >>> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> geoff
> >> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
> >> build
> >
> > Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
> > build
> It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
> is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).
>
> geoff

* Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?
* Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?

I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.

build

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 by: build - Sun, 15 May 2022 07:15 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:45:44 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> > On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
> > >>> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
> > >>> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> geoff
> > >> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
> > >> build
> > >
> > > Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
> > > build
> > It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
> > is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).
> >
> > geoff
> * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?
> * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?
>
> I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.
>
> build

Hmmm, no reply.

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 by: Edmund - Sun, 15 May 2022 07:36 UTC

On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
>>>>>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
>>>>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Figures you won't present of course...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even
>>>>>>> heard about the real figures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So show them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work
>>>>>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF,
>>>>>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
>>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save
>>>>>>> lives or not.
>>>>>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths
>>>>>> there would have been without vaccination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're the one making all the claims here...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
>>>>> he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
>>>>> he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence
>>>>> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
>>>>> their dreams to collect their sperm.
>>>>
>>>> What figures? Show them.
>>>> Pfizer documents?
>>>
>>> So you want others to show figures...
>>>
>>> ...but not you.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>> No you don't.
>> nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance
>
> I'll ask you again:
>
> Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming such exist)...
>
> ...without wearing masks?

And still no data.

Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
over again.

--
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the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

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 by: Edmund - Sun, 15 May 2022 07:47 UTC

On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>
>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>
>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>
>>> Because you know it all.
>>
>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>> or even heard about the real figures.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>
>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>
>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
>> "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
>> a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
>>>> in the real world.
>>>> So us some figures.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>
>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!
>>
>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>>
>
> I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be brainwashed.
>
> geoff
eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
with data.

Let me guess.... :-)

Edmund

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 by: geoff - Sun, 15 May 2022 11:47 UTC

On 15/05/2022 5:45 pm, build wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
>>>>> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> geoff
>>>> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
>>>> build
>>>
>>> Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
>>> build
>> It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
>> is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).
>>
>> geoff
>
> * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?

In the situation of a pandemic, yes.

> * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?

What do you get from "... argue these authors" - that the opinions are
solid proven fact ?

Have you read anything/everything from BMJ with a contrary POV ?

>
> I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.
>
> build

Don't bother. You will never concede anything to be true that isn't a
reactionary extreme conservative mantra.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sun, 15 May 2022 11:48 UTC

On 15/05/2022 7:47 pm, Edmund wrote:
> On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
>>>>>> prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So
>>>>>> it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>
>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>
>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>
>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>> or even heard about the real figures.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>
>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>
>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
>>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
>>> "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
>>> a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
>>>>> in the real world.
>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>
>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>
>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so
>> much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who
>> apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be
>> brainwashed.
>>
>> geoff
> eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
> Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
> with data.
>
> Let me guess.... :-)
>
> Edmund
>

I guess you're not much in touch with the real world then ...

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sun, 15 May 2022 11:54 UTC

On 15/05/2022 11:47 pm, geoff wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 5:45 pm, build wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>> On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed
>>>>>>> and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human
>>>>>>> Rights abuse.
>>>>>> Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geoff
>>>>> Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
>>>>> build
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
>>>> build
>>> It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
>>> is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your
>> germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?
>
> In the situation of a pandemic, yes.
>
>> * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are
>> you serious?
>
> What do you get from "... argue these authors" - that the opinions are
> solid proven fact ?
>

Not to mention the word in red at the top - "Opinion".

geoff

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 by: alister - Sun, 15 May 2022 14:29 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:36:18 +0200, Edmund wrote:

> On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mask-avoiding Florida.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
>>>>>>>>>>> prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination
>>>>>>>>>>> proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Figures you won't present of course...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>>>>>>> or even heard about the real figures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So show them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that
>>>>>>>>>> is nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>>>>>>>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
>>>>>>>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching "Excess
>>>>>>>> Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing
>>>>>>>> like the jabs did save lives or not.
>>>>>>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess
>>>>>>> deaths there would have been without vaccination.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the
>>>>>>>>>> real world.
>>>>>>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're the one making all the claims here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you he
>>>>>> has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
>>>>>> he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
>>>>>> evidence presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons
>>>>>> sleep with men in their dreams to collect their sperm.
>>>>>
>>>>> What figures? Show them.
>>>>> Pfizer documents?
>>>>
>>>> So you want others to show figures...
>>>>
>>>> ...but not you.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> No you don't.
>>> nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance
>>
>> I'll ask you again:
>>
>> Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
>> such exist)...
>>
>> ...without wearing masks?
>
> And still no data.
>
> Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
> I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all over
> again.

We did, which is why we know anything we post will be disregarded as hear-
say

unless it comes from a krank, screwball or demon/witch conspiracy theorist

--
Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length.

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 by: Edmund - Sun, 15 May 2022 15:25 UTC

On 5/15/22 13:48, geoff wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 7:47 pm, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
>>> On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>>
>>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>>> or even heard about the real figures.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>>
>>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>>>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
>>>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
>>>> "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
>>>> a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
>>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
>>>>>> in the real world.
>>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!
>>>>
>>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>>
>>>> Edmund
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be brainwashed.
>>>
>>> geoff
>> eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
>> Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
>> with data.
>>
>> Let me guess.... :-)
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>
> I guess you're not much in touch with the real world then ...
>
> geoff

Your " real world" from which you cannot show anything, good point!

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the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 May 2022 15:29 UTC

On 2022-05-15 12:36 a.m., Edmund wrote:
> On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mask-avoiding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
>>>>>>>>>>> prohibits
>>>>>>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
>>>>>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Figures you won't present of course...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>>> heard about the real figures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So show them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF,
>>>>>>>> big IF,
>>>>>>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
>>>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs
>>>>>>>> did save
>>>>>>>> lives or not.
>>>>>>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess
>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>> there would have been without vaccination.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're the one making all the claims here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
>>>>>> he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
>>>>>> he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with
>>>>>> men in
>>>>>> their dreams to collect their sperm.
>>>>>
>>>>> What figures? Show them.
>>>>> Pfizer documents?
>>>>
>>>> So you want others to show figures...
>>>>
>>>> ...but not you.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> No you don't.
>>> nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance
>>
>> I'll ask you again:
>>
>> Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
>> such exist)...
>>
>> ...without wearing masks?
>
> And still no data.
>
> Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
> I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
> over again.
>

Really?

Point me to this discussion.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 May 2022 15:30 UTC

On 2022-05-15 12:47 a.m., Edmund wrote:
> On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
>>>>>> prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So
>>>>>> it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>
>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>
>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>
>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>> or even heard about the real figures.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>
>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>
>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
>>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
>>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
>>> "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
>>> a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
>>>>> in the real world.
>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>
>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>
>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so
>> much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who
>> apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be
>> brainwashed.
>>
>> geoff
> eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
> Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
> with data.
>
> Let me guess.... :-)
>
> Edmund
>

Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

Yes or no.

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 by: leonard hofstatder - Sun, 15 May 2022 15:57 UTC

On 5/15/2022 9:29 AM, alister wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:36:18 +0200, Edmund wrote:
>
>> On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:

----- snipped a lot ------

>>> I'll ask you again:
>>>
>>> Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
>>> such exist)...
>>>
>>> ...without wearing masks?
>>

What a/an...
unintelligent
ignorant
dense
brainless
mindless
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dull-witted
dull
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....stupid thing to say.

(apologies to/if wrong author quoted)

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 by: Bob Latham - Sun, 15 May 2022 16:28 UTC

In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

> Yes or no.

Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
breath.

This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
masks.

Bob.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 May 2022 16:31 UTC

On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?
>
>> Yes or no.
>
> Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

Really?

And what would that be then?

>
> They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
> breath.

They don't?

What do they wear them for?

>
> This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
> masks.

Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

:-)

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 by: texas gate - Sun, 15 May 2022 16:46 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 10:31:02 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

this from the village idiot

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 by: Bob Latham - Sun, 15 May 2022 18:04 UTC

In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
> > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?
> >
> >> Yes or no.
> >
> > Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

> Really?

> And what would that be then?

> >
> > They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
> > breath.

> They don't?

> What do they wear them for?

> >
> > This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
> > years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
> > masks.

> Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

> :-)

The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
into the wound that carries bacteria.

Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

Bob.

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 by: Heron - Sun, 15 May 2022 18:15 UTC

On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
>>> In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?
>>>
>>>> Yes or no.
>>>
>>> Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.
>
>> Really?
>
>> And what would that be then?
>
>>>
>>> They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
>>> breath.
>
>> They don't?
>
>> What do they wear them for?
>
>>>
>>> This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
>>> masks.
>
>> Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.
>
>> :-)
>
> The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
> protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
> into the wound that carries bacteria.
>
> Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.
>
> Bob.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 May 2022 21:31 UTC

On 2022-05-15 11:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
>>> In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?
>>>
>>>> Yes or no.
>>>
>>> Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.
>
>> Really?
>
>> And what would that be then?
>
>>>
>>> They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
>>> breath.
>
>> They don't?
>
>> What do they wear them for?
>
>>>
>>> This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
>>> masks.
>
>> Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.
>
>> :-)
>
> The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
> protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
> into the wound that carries bacteria.

You mean like minuscule aerosol droplets that are exhaled, right?

>
> Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

Except they're not "airborne" on their own.

They're in exactly the same aerosol droplets.

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 by: texas gate - Sun, 15 May 2022 21:39 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:31:25 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> They're in exactly the same aerosol droplets.

Fuck off Dr Stupid.

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 by: geoff - Sun, 15 May 2022 23:51 UTC

On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
> On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
>> In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
>>     Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
>>>> In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>      Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?
>>>>
>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.
>>
>>> Really?
>>
>>> And what would that be then?
>>
>>>>
>>>> They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
>>>> breath.
>>
>>> They don't?
>>
>>> What do they wear them for?
>>
>>>>
>>>> This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
>>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
>>>> masks.
>>
>>> Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.
>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
>> protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
>> into the wound that carries bacteria.
>>
>> Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.
>>
>> Bob.
>
> https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

Yeah but what would they know ? We have more expert experts even here,
apparently.

geoff

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 by: keithr0 - Mon, 16 May 2022 04:56 UTC

On 16/05/2022 1:29 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-15 12:36 a.m., Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> texas gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mask-avoiding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get fucking real.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> prohibits
>>>>>>>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So why do you care if you think you know it all?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because you know it all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Figures you won't present of course...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
>>>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>>>> heard about the real figures.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So show them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot
>>>>>>>>> of work
>>>>>>>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF,
>>>>>>>>> big IF,
>>>>>>>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
>>>>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs
>>>>>>>>> did save
>>>>>>>>> lives or not.
>>>>>>>>> Spoiler: they didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can only know that, if you can magically show how many
>>>>>>>> excess deaths
>>>>>>>> there would have been without vaccination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>> So us some figures.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see you don't have it either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're the one making all the claims here...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is only because you are misinformed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irony.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
>>>>>>> he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
>>>>>>> he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with
>>>>>>> men in
>>>>>>> their dreams to collect their sperm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What figures? Show them.
>>>>>> Pfizer documents?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you want others to show figures...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but not you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>> No you don't.
>>>> nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance
>>>
>>> I'll ask you again:
>>>
>>> Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love
>>> (assuming such exist)...
>>>
>>> ...without wearing masks?
>>
>> And still no data.
>>
>> Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
>> I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
>> over again.
>>
>
> Really?
>
> Point me to this discussion.

The argument is pointless, people will believe whatever they want to
believe. Usually because it means that they would have to do something
that they don't want to. Don't want to wear a mask - believe that they
do no good, don't want to get vaccinated - come up with weird conspiracy
theories about vaccines, don't want to make sacrifices now to help
secure the future - don't believe in climate change.

No matter what facts you can come up with, you'll never change their
attitude.

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