https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising

As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.

This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

Extended interview with Abbie Eaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SWmInErmKg

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 5:15:24 PM UTC-6, bra wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>
> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.
>
> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>
> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>
> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

Europe is always sucking hind tit when it comes to safety.

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
> At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
> Extended interview with Abbie Eaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SWmInErmKg

The interview reports that an F4 driver on the day following Abbey's curb incident, had the SAME curb bump exactly, registering 50G on his car sensors, and he too suffered fractured vertebrae.

On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>
> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.
>
> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>
> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>
> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

I never scoffed at either of them.

I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my 60-year-old
body couldn't possibly stand it.

On 5/19/2022 7:15 PM, bra wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>
> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.
>
> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>
> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>
> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

Make the chassis, suspension and sidewalls stiff enough and the weak
link is driver physiology.

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 7:20:24 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> I never scoffed at either of them.

It wasn't about you.
You fucking moron.

On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>>
>>
>> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
>> pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
>> serious drawback.
>>
>> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in
>> their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>>
>> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
>> Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a
>> milkshake."  At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
>> vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
>> from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>>
>> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints
>> may now listen to a Ferrari driver.
>
> I never scoffed at either of them.
>
> I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my 60-year-old
> body couldn't possibly stand it.

I believe it was probably Henry Manley writing fiction
for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
or surgical additions to handle the increasing
forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
retinas and separating kidneys...

I know I never had felt such forces until I bought
a modern light weight very high downforce car
capable of cornering in excess of 3 G's. It gets brutal.
Well, then my neurosurgeon wanted me to quit
being a multi-G Bobble head. Tough choice, sell
the exciting car, or revisit the stroke ward???
Oh well - it was wild!

On 5/20/2022 3:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
> On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>>>
>>>
>>> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
>>> pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
>>> serious drawback.
>>>
>>> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in
>>> their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>>>
>>> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
>>> Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like
>>> a milkshake."  At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
>>> vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
>>> from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>>>
>>> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's
>>> complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.
>>
>> I never scoffed at either of them.
>>
>> I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my
>> 60-year-old body couldn't possibly stand it.
>
> I believe it was probably Henry Manley

Henry N. Manney III

> writing fiction
> for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
> expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
> or surgical additions to handle the increasing
> forces of then 'modern' F1 cars.  i.e. detaching
> retinas and separating kidneys...

I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
the Cyclops saga.

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
- Peter G. Neumann

On 2022-05-20 4:10 p.m., Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 5/20/2022 3:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
>> On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
>>>> pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
>>>> serious drawback.
>>>>
>>>> This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around
>>>> in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
>>>> Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like
>>>> a milkshake."  At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
>>>> vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
>>>> from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
>>>>
>>>> People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's
>>>> complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.
>>>
>>> I never scoffed at either of them.
>>>
>>> I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my
>>> 60-year-old body couldn't possibly stand it.
>>
>> I believe it was probably Henry Manley
>
> Henry N. Manney III
>
>> writing fiction
>> for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
>> expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
>> or surgical additions to handle the increasing
>> forces of then 'modern' F1 cars.  i.e. detaching
>> retinas and separating kidneys...
>
> I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
> the Cyclops saga.
>

I have a vague recollection of that article as well...

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:45:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> I have a vague recollection of that article as well...

oh fucking goody for you

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:45:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> I have a vague recollection of that article as well...

too busy trolling

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Mark Jackson wrote:

> > I believe it was probably Henry Manley
> Henry N. Manney III
> > writing fiction
> > for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
> > expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
> > or surgical additions to handle the increasing
> > forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
> > retinas and separating kidneys...
> I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
> the Cyclops saga.
>
> --
> Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
> COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
> likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
> - Peter G. Neumann

Dragsters are now registering minus-7G retarding when their chutes open, and several dragster drivers have suffered retina detachment, and many experience momentary tunnel vision. .
Years ago at the hard-braking Canadian GP, Martin Brundle described his tear ducts throwing fluid forwards onto the inside of his visor when he hit the brakes.

On 25/05/2022 4:09 am, bra wrote:
> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Mark Jackson wrote:
>
>>> I believe it was probably Henry Manley
>> Henry N. Manney III
>>> writing fiction
>>> for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
>>> expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
>>> or surgical additions to handle the increasing
>>> forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
>>> retinas and separating kidneys...
>> I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
>> the Cyclops saga.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
>> COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
>> likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
>> - Peter G. Neumann
>
> Dragsters are now registering minus-7G retarding when their chutes open, and several dragster drivers have suffered retina detachment, and many experience momentary tunnel vision. .
> Years ago at the hard-braking Canadian GP, Martin Brundle described his tear ducts throwing fluid forwards onto the inside of his visor when he hit the brakes.
>
>
I've experience 5G riding in the back seat of a jet trainer. That was
vertical in respect to the body which is easier to take than similar
horizontal forces, but under that acceleration, even raising a hand
takes serious effort. The though of contending with such forces on a
head encased in a relatively heavy helmet for 90 odd minutes fills me
with respect for those able to do it.